Codeplug, ASK and whatever else questions.

[chrismol1]

I find it a common misconception that law enforcement officers are "inept" or couldn't know the law or don't care because it's obscure or something of the sort. There are many very intelligent people in law enforcement. I don't mean doctors and rocket scientists but they are very adept at picking up on suspicious activity or activities not typical undertaken by most citizens they encounter leading to further scrutiny

Back to the questions

@ ElroyJetson: That is some good examples. Being a former tech for Clark County Communications is much how I acquired my goodies. (didn't come free)
Basically, I finished my codeplug following your lead for NAS and do have a couple questions.
In my scan list it goes to 10 channels. I have 31 channels programmed in the personality. Can I presume this will scan all 31 Channels ? ( I will be adding a few more as I go.)

Now for all that have the XTS5000 firmware v 15.00.08
Has anyone had issues getting the menu to function as programmed ?
I have to consider a hardware thing, side buttons sometimes flake out like switch bounce.
I'd rather not do surgery, but a possible ribbon connection breaking down for age.
Thanks people, mainly for putting up with me.
73s

No, what is specifically in the Scan List is what is going to be scanned. The standard XTS will allow 10 trunked channels to a scan list. There is a hex edit to the .exe that will allow up to 15 talkgroups. By programming menu item PROG, you can edit the scan list to select and remove the talkgroups in the scan list of your picking that are in your Zone

As far as the menu, you won't be dealing with the bottom trunking menu items, everything must be in the conventional menu items as you will be scanning the trunked talkgroups from a conventional channel

 

[ElroyJetson]

The 10 item scan list (15 with hex edit) is unfortunately a limitation Motorola users must contend with.

It's a stupid limitation, but Motorola has never seen that having large scan lists is beneficial to their public safety users. They aren't asking for 50 entry scan lists.

In that respect, GE-Harris has an advantage. It'll scan as many groups as are in the system.

 

[GTR8000]

The 10 item scan list (15 with hex edit) is unfortunately a limitation Motorola users must contend with.

It's a stupid limitation, but Motorola has never seen that having large scan lists is beneficial to their public safety users. They aren't asking for 50 entry scan lists.

In that respect, GE-Harris has an advantage. It'll scan as many groups as are in the system.

Except that Motorola did change that. The APX series can scan 30 conventional channels, or 50 trunked talkgroups per system, depending on the scan list type.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Except that the OP is using an XTS5000 which makes that a moot point, to him.

 

[GTR8000]

Except that the OP is using an XTS5000 which makes that a moot point, to him.

Sure, but you made the statement: "Motorola has never seen that having large scan lists is beneficial to their public safety users", which clearly is untrue. Never? Well, nope, they changed their stance back in 2009 with the introduction of the APX series. Perhaps you were unaware, being out of the game for so long. Regardless, just spitting some facts to clarify for the sake of others who might actually want to learn a thing or two.

 

[KevinC]

Sure, but you made the statement: "Motorola has never seen that having large scan lists is beneficial to their public safety users", which clearly is untrue. Never? Well, nope, they changed their stance back in 2009 with the introduction of the APX series. Perhaps you were unaware, being out of the game for so long. Regardless, just spitting some facts to clarify for the sake of others who might actually want to learn a thing or two.

My STX would scan 5.

 

[mancow]

I thought my apx4000 could do 64 tg scan. But 50 is plenty.

 

[xmo]

alcahuete wrote: "I would do anything to be the plaintiff in that lawsuit, because it will be a 6 figure pay day"

Really? First comes the part where they arrest you. Then you get your day in court. It goes pretty much like this:

Your honor - I show you what has been identified as people's exhibit #1, a Motorola APX police radio, owned by our police department and issued to the arresting officer. You will note that the display says: "POLICE DISPATCH" and you will further note that you can hear the private communications between our dispatch center and our officers.

I now show you what has been identified as people's exhibit #2, also a Motorola radio, confiscated from the defendant. You will further note that the display on this radio also shows "POLICE DISPATCH" and also that you can hear the communications between our dispatch center and our officers.

I now show you what has been entered into evidence as people's exhibit #3. This is a report provided by our communications department of the analysis done on the confiscated radio. It states that:

1) The programming history in the radio shows that it was most recently programmed with software that is proprietary to Motorola and not legally available to anyone outside of Motorola, not even our communications department.

2) The radio has been programmed with the system ID and frequencies licensed to our system by the FCC. Programming this information requires the use of a programming key. These keys are provided by Motorola exclusively to the administrator of each system. The communications department certifies that the defendant is not authorized to be in possession of a programming key for our system.

3) Additionally, each radio must have a unique ID number. This radio has been programmed with an ID not authorized by our communications department.

The people therefore submit that all necessary evidence has been provided to support a conviction for electronic trespass as provided for in state and local statute.

 

[GTR8000]

I thought my apx4000 could do 64 tg scan. But 50 is plenty.

Priority Monitor is 50 talkgroups max. For Multi-System Talkgroup or Intelligent Priority, you can mix and match up to 5 systems of 50 talkgroups per system, for a total of 250 talkgroups.

 

[ElroyJetson]

Actually I have had two APX radios pass through my hands in the past. But I only bought them for a fast flip-and-profit and didn't explore the scan features. In fact I may have been the first "civilian" to purchase a brand new factory direct APX6000. (VHF) Somewhere around here I still have the plastic clamshell container it shipped in. That was a fun story. A competitor to M wanted to get their hands on the new hotness, but M would not sell it to them. They approached me. I found I could buy it via Bearcom. So the deal was made and my profit was substantial.

 

[GTR8000]

In fact I may have been the first "civilian" to purchase a brand new factory direct APX6000. (VHF)

Wow, you sure are the first to do quite a lot of things, how impressive!!!

 

[ecps92]

or Program it as a Type I fleet map and hear ALL within that Fleet

My STX would scan 5.

 

[GTR8000]

This thread...

 

[ElroyJetson]

The radio had just been announced a few days before. My contact reached out to me and asked if I can get it.
I made some calls, and Bearcom said they could sell it to me. Having the funding for it, I placed the order.

That early in the game, I would not expect that too many people would have shelled out roughly 2200 dollars or so (I think it was about that much...) for a VHF portable radio, who aren't purchasing for a public safety agency. Bearcom did say I was the first individual to buy one from them, anyway. And it dropshipped directly from Motorola.

 

[alcahuete]

@xmo You really need to learn the law.

 

[KevinC]

Choice of clean up this crap or close...hmm. I choose work smarter not harder, so closing.

Oh yeah, here's what I invented. On the STX (with a REL 2.0 or GPL type of controller board) you could put 15 TG's in an ATG plus still use your scan list. So you could listen to 20 TG's. You couldn't manipulate the ATG TG's on the fly, but pretty high tech for the day.