That line says it all...it's your way or the highway. That statement clearly points out that you are in fact not open-minded, which has been demonstrated by your continued comments that D-Star is the greatest format ever, and everything else is a waste of time.
Myself and others have offered valid counterpoints, which you immediately try and shoot down or otherwise dismiss.
Where am I or anyone else making bogus arguments? Where am I or others spouting off incorrect info? Where is the BS? D-Star is an incompatible format with any other radio Part 90 or Part 95 radio service outside of amateur radio, therefore not useful to some of us. Maybe not you, but you don't seem to understand that.
How many times have myself and others made it clear that if the ham community wants to use and build-out D-Star, then by all means you/they should...but this continual one-sided "D-Star is the be-all, end-all" drivel is getting old fast. You are clearly not interested in conversation or debate about this as every time someone has posted an opposite opinion, you immediately shoot it down as incorrect. No wait, it's not even that...you are just not interested in anyone else's thoughts or opinions.
Go forth and continue to use D-Star any way you see fit. If you want to link a gajillion D-Star repeaters on the internet and have your data streaming and internet in the car, then have at it. Nobody is arguing against using the technology here, which the "readers will see too".
This D-Star thing is turning into the code/no-code argument of the 21st century.
This says it all right here.
And now we return you to your regularly scheduled thread....
I just re-read this whole thread and discovered your latest reply here at the end. Wow! (speechless)
I pointed out and corrected false statements about D-STAR. Should be no problem doing that. Those who insisted P25 was the better standard clearly did not understand the D-STAR protocol and advantages. Yes, I pointed that out too...so what? Even in your last statement you said, "If you want to link a gajillion D-Star repeaters on the internet and have your data streaming and internet in the car, then have at it." You may have missed one key point. It is NOT just a bunch of "link" stuff to a "gajillion" repeaters. It is an automatic linking system to individual users, wherever they are registered (last known repeater they were on). Yes, linking repeaters was added as a newer feature, but I'm not such a fan of that as Echolink and IRLP are noise generators if you ask me. Some people love it. eh... If it gets too noisy I CAN TURN MY CALL SIGN SQUELCH ON and quiet the receiver. Gotta love that feature!
Yes, I know P25 can do that too, but not FM depending on PL access, filtering/stripping, and DTMF masking. There are digital advantages.
I believe I understand where you are coming from having all of your official needs and amateur needs in one box. I get that, but is that a good reason for choosing one standard over another for the general amateur community? It may be good for you, but what about the rest of us? Which standard should the hams invest in? And that is the debate that has been raised by the P25 community. As if the P25 standard is better and "in our area, system operators have chosen the P25 standard". Same could be said for D-STAR advocates too I suppose. I'm just pointing out the D-STAR advantages, and time and time again the argument made by the P25 guys has been inaccurate, as if they never really looked into D-STAR to see what it really does in the first place.
The sad part of this apparent "competition" that some have advocated is that parts of the country are choosing one over the other. There are dead spots for both standards because of this. And for every system operator that chooses one over the other, it makes it that much less likely that the other standard has a real chance of taking off. It can still happen, but why do we want two different standards? To the general amateur community, this is discouraging. I'm hearing this from people who want to buy in, but do not know which way to go. They are also being forced to choose, and many may stick with good old FM because of this. The advantages of D-STAR may go unknown, and that appears to have happened already for many.
I'm just pointing out the facts. I do my research and do my best to be accurate. I have nothing against P25, but when I hear people are hesitating to invest in new technology because of a standards war filled with misinformation, I feel compelled to speak out. We still have free speech after all...
...but when someone tells me to "Let it go", I have to ask why. I'm just pointing out facts. I'm not telling you to convert. :lol: And believe me, I'm a Moto fan and love the commercial gear too. I have piles of it. I just believe the amateur standard is slick stuff, and it is about time the amateurs contributed to something really great for amateur use that truly advances communication in a meaningful way. That is all.
Hey, enjoy what you have! And speaking of that, what do you have?
Peace!
Phil
