Delaware County Public Service DMR system is active

[wbloss]

As noted by others, Delaware County Public Service folks have transitioned from OKWIN to a monster six-site DMR Tier 3 system.
A quick trip to Grove from Joplin with my trusty Uniden '536 found several frequencies on the two licenses active.
Thankfully, the installers used the site numbers in the FCC licenses, when programming the actual sites, which helps.
I would like to flesh it out a bit more with the southern county sites being confirmed before we add to the database.
Here's what we have so far:

Code*	Freq	SITE PER '536	Color Code	FCC Site #	License
lic nh	453.3500			1 jay	WSEU481/WRZL255
cc	453.4250	1	0	1 JAY	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.5250			1 jay	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.6250			1 jay	WSEU481
vc	453.6750		0	1 jay	WRZL255
lic nh	453.8250			1 jay	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.8500			1 jay	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.2750			2 kansas	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.3125			2 kansas	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.3375			2 kansas	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.5250			2 kansas	WSEU481/WRZL255
cc	460.5875		0	2 Kansas	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.6250			2 kansas	WSEU481/WRZL255
cc	453.2750	3	0	3 Grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
vc	453.3625	3	0	3 Grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.5000			3 grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
vc	453.5875		0	3 grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.6625			3 grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
cc	453.7250	2	0	3 Grove	WSEU481 ONLY
lic nh	453.4500			3 grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
cc	453.1250	4	0	4 Locust Grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
vc	453.1250	4	0	4 Locust Grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.2250			4 locust grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.9000			4 locust grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.9500			4 locust grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.9750			4 locust grove	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.3000			4 locust grovr	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.0375			5 w siloam	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.0875			5 w siloam	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.1250			5 w siloam	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.3625			5 w siloam	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.4250			5 w siloam	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	460.4500			5 w siloam	WSEU481/WRZL255
cc	453.2500	6	0	6 Langley	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.2625			6 langley	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.2875			6 langley	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.7875			6 langley	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.8750			6 langley	WSEU481/WRZL255
lic nh	453.9250			6 langley	WSEU481/WRZL255

Codes - cc: Control channel verified, vc: Voice channel verified. lic nh: Licensed not heard yet, but very likely will be used based on what has been verified so far.
Talkgroups heard so far: 2101, 2102, 2121, 2127, 2324, sure to be many more, and all need verified usage.
RIDs/UIDs seem to be in the 4#### series with a few exceptions.
I have actually heard some of the Grove and Kansas frequencies in Joplin with some morning propagation enhancement.
Any help from locals will be appreciated - either in this thread or in a submission

W


The two licenses are interesting - WRZL255 was granted in 2023 to Delaware County but not effective till 9/9/24 with a tech contact of Stolz Telecom in OKC. The more recent WSEU481 was granted AND effective on 9/25/24...interestingly licensed to the Delaware County E-911 Authority in "Yay" OK, (oops) . There are a few small different freqs noted above.
And so

 

[wx5uif]

I guess I missed this license when it was granted. I just stuck it all in my scanner. I'll try to work on it!

 

[wbloss]

Basic info not in database - needs fleshing out
Delaware County Public Service DMR Trunking System, Jay, Oklahoma

 

[KOK5CY]

Like to mention that Delaware County sheriff is still using there VHF SO2 frequency. I heard both the deputy and dispatch at. 08;30

 

[wbloss]

@KOK5CY - can you help ID a few of the Talkgroups on the new system?

 

[KOK5CY]

My scanner isn’t DMR capable sorry

 

[bigbadwolf54]

Site Name County Freqs
001 (1) Jay Delaware 453.425c 453.675 update>> site: S1-1.2 453.425c using LSN 389/390 LCN 194
002 (2) Kansas Delaware 460.5875c 460.275c update>> site: S1-1.3 460.275c using LSN 645/646 LCN 322

004 (4) Locust Grove Delaware 453.125c update>> site: S1-2.1 453.1250c using LSN 341/342 LCN 170

006 (6) Langley Mayes 453.250c update>> site: S1-2.3 453.250c using LSN 361/362 LCN 180

talkgroups 2137 Kansas Fire, 2153 couldnt identify units

caught this yesterday afternoon using dsd+

 

[KOK5CY]

Why would a county sheriff dept switch to DMR and be on uhf when the whole county is so thick with trees ? I lived in that county for 5 years and they had better signal on vhf but they never used the OKWIN system?

 

[wbloss]

Why would a county sheriff dept switch to DMR and be on uhf when the whole county is so thick with trees ? I lived in that county for 5 years and they had better signal on vhf but they never used the OKWIN system?

ANd a Tier 3 system ain't cheap!
But Ottawa County went to a NXDN 800 MHz system just ~2 years ago instead of OKWIN. Politics and money I guess.

 

[KOK5CY]

ANd a Tier 3 system ain't cheap!
But Ottawa County went to a NXDN 800 MHz system just ~2 years ago instead of OKWIN. Politics and money I guess.

Ok well I happen to be sitting near my bcd536hp this morning and I heard and noticed Ottawa Co 911 dispatch a deputy . My scanner doesn’t have the NXDN firmware installed.

 

[N5TWB]

M

Why would a county sheriff dept switch to DMR and be on uhf when the whole county is so thick with trees ? I lived in that county for 5 years and they had better signal on vhf but they never used the OKWIN system?

My guess is that the Tier 3 functionality is supposed to overcome the physical propagation issues you cited. Monitoring the system to note localized problem areas plus some discreet inquiries with actual users may yield interesting results.

 

[rickc68]

Ok well I happen to be sitting near my bcd536hp this morning and I heard and noticed Ottawa Co 911 dispatch a deputy . My scanner doesn’t have the NXDN firmware installed.

They have a patch from the new NXDN system to their old OKWIN dispatch talk group1761.

 

[allanwilliams]

GOOD SOMEONE HELP ID GROVE FOE USE THANK.