Denver fire

[stevecubfan]

As curt mentioned several weeks ago denver fire vocalarm on the denver trunk is now encrypted. 154.070 is still in the clear for who knows how long.

 

[ScannerSK]

I remember in the old days Police Call books stating it is safer to listen from home. So much for the old days and so much for transparency.

 

[KF0SKV]

ADCOM, Thornton, Westy, DFD, among others. All in the clear over UHF/VHF back in the 90's. Yep, I remember the good ole days of scanning.

 

[Spitfire8520]

As curt mentioned several weeks ago denver fire vocalarm on the denver trunk is now encrypted. 154.070 is still in the clear for who knows how long.

Okay, but did you check to verify the claim?

If yes, then you might want to check your programming. You may be confusing the VocAlarm talkgroup (TG 35426) with the Fire 1 (Dispatch) talkgroup (TG 35401). Fire 1 has been encrypted since day one, but the VocAlarm remains in the clear. Source: Verified with a radio just a second ago.

 

[colodak]

ADCOM, Thornton, Westy, DFD, among others. All in the clear over UHF/VHF back in the 90's. Yep, I remember the good ole days of scanning.

I grew up in Arvada, had Arvada PD/FD, Westy PD/FD, ADCOM (which back then dispatched Thornton, Northglenn, Commerce City, Brighton and ADCCSO), Jeffco, Boulder, Wheatridge, Lakewood and DPD/FD all in my 100 ch Uniden, it was so much easier and safer.

 

[KE0HIN]

vocalarm on the Denver trunk I have heard in clear traffic on this the last few mornings some sort of morning roll call test "all stations received"

 

[scanlist]

The VHF VOC/Dispatch simulcast on 154.070 is off the air.

VOC announcements on TG 35426 are still in the clear.

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[Spitfire8520]

VOC announcements on TG 35426 are still in the clear.

Mostly in the clear with one exception. In the rare case that a dispatcher manually airs traffic, they now multicast on Fire 1, the known VocAlarm talkgroup, and TG 35507 which looks like an encrypted VocAlarm talkgroup. It appears that encryption is strapped on the dispatch consoles. I believe the dispatchers prevously accessed the VocAlarm radio directly, but it seems like all of these changed on the July 31st.

The new talkgroup is not great sign, but we will see.

 

[Spirit]

Can I get This on 106?

 

[scanlist]

No it's a phase 2 talkgroup and the 106 is only phase 1 capabile.

Now that talkgroup 35426 is mixed clear with dispatcher override now ENC this indicates that the intended targets of the alerts is ENC receive capable and would not surprise me that it goes full ENC in the near future or to the new talkgroup Spitfire identified.

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[Spirit]

Thank you scanlist!

 

[FiremanSparky]

The VHF VOC/Dispatch simulcast on 154.070 is off the air.

VOC announcements on TG 35426 are still in the clear.

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Just to confirm, the VHF simulcast is gone for good?

 

[scanlist]

At this time it would appear so.

Recently there was mention on the Rocky Mountain Monitoring Net that DFD was planning on doing this along with the VOC talkgroup.

On a similiar note while monitoring West Metro recently I noted all their automated station alerting groups are now ENC.

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[scanlist]

And it's history. All activity on talkgroup 35426 is ENC including the VOC radio ID 815837.

Denver Health OPS and ETAC groups are still in the clear.

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[FiremanSparky]

Thank You for sharing & letting us know.

 

[scanlist]

Noticing the console ID's for Denver Health EMS are now in the 45x range vs 40x range.

There has been speculation that the OPS and ETAC groups are going the way of DFD.
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[Spitfire8520]

Noticing the console ID's for Denver Health EMS are now in the 45x range vs 40x range.

There has been speculation that the OPS and ETAC groups are going the way of DFD.
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The public safety consoles in the x5x range are located at the backup communications center.

I imagine that their current consoles support encryption fine. The rumor I heard ages ago is that Denver Health wanted to encrypt at the beginning like everyone else, but had to to pay for it somehow. It does not make much sense though seeing as all of their current radios support multikey AES.

 

[KB9LMJ]

Noticing the console ID's for Denver Health EMS are now in the 45x range vs 40x range.

There has been speculation that the OPS and ETAC groups are going the way of DFD.
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Confirmed DHPD going encrypted Q1 2025.

 

[scanlist]

Denver's quest to lock out the public and recently the media from PS comm has been an ongoing situation since December 20th 1992.

Once Denver Health flips the switch on the city systems GREEN-1 on DTRS for other ambulance companies to cover requests for service in the city will be the only open communication. Also this includes Englewood, Glendale and Sheridan.

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[Insulator]

Denver's quest to lock out the public and recently the media from PS comm has been an ongoing situation since December 20th 1992.

Once Denver Health flips the switch on the city systems GREEN-1 on DTRS for other ambulance companies to cover requests for service in the city will be the only open communication. Also this includes Englewood, Glendale and Sheridan.

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That's too bad. I guess they don't want us to know how bad the crime really is in Denver and Aurora. On the other hand LAPD has everything open to the public, going so far as having several U-tube sites and streaming. Makes you wonder how bad it really is since there is no transparency or accountability to the citizens like us or to the media from the departments.