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[WX4JCW]

we have ARC536 now so this helps a lot especially with Paul's spreadsheet, easy peasy

 

[RF23]

Sure looks slick!

I have ARC 780XL, ARC 396T and ARC HP-1.
Does it look like it will help program DMR in the three different ways that Paul mentioned on his Wiki page?

DMR Conventional
DMR One-Frequency System
Moto TRBO Connect Plus, Capacity Plus, or DMR Tier III

 

[AA6IO]

Just downloaded prelim version of Uniden DMR on one my 536HPs. Install of FW and DMR key went fine. Been listening to quite a bit of DMR in 460 to 464 and 507 to 508 MHz. Made conventional list of few frequencies. So far the audio sounds very good. Sys Type, CC, and slot seem to be displaying OK. Thanks Uniden.

 

[UPMan]

I think Uniden got caught off-guard with Whistler's announcement

Actually, I am sure that Whistler got caught off guard by our announcement. I was surprised that they had DMR ready so soon, but in looking at it, it is really more pre than our pre-release.

 

[buddrousa]

Thanks UPMan for the hard work that is still taking place.

 

[woodpecker]

Actually, I am sure that Whistler got caught off guard by our announcement. I was surprised that they had DMR ready so soon, but in looking at it, it is really more pre than our pre-release.

I'd agree with that, it was a bit of a RMFAOL moment when Don and others claimed Whistler had the first DMR scanner, they all got a bit teary in the Whistler forum when I disagreed.

 

[Jake68111]

During a scan of "conventionally programmed" DMR freqs, the scanner wants to hang onto freqs that display the Color, Slot and Sys type. I never hear any traffic on these channels.

Should I be locking these channels out, so my scanner just doesn't sit there like a paper weight? How is everybody else handling this? I know these channels provide some juicy info but hinders monitoring radio traffic.

 

[bearcat]

During a scan of "conventionally programmed" DMR freqs, the scanner wants to hang onto freqs that display the Color, Slot and Sys type. I never hear any traffic on these channels.

Should I be locking these channels out, so my scanner just doesn't sit there like a paper weight? How is everybody else handling this? I know these channels provide some juicy info but hinders monitoring radio traffic.

Those would be Control Channels and may also contain voice traffic on the unused slot. Make a note of the System Type. It should show CON or CAP. Probably Slot 2. Make notes of those freqs and system type. You can eventually use them to fiqure out the trunked systems in your area. Then feel free to Avoid them so you can continue to search for new DMR stuff as they will just lock up your search, but they are of significant value to you.

 

[woodpecker]

During a scan of "conventionally programmed" DMR freqs, the scanner wants to hang onto freqs that display the Color, Slot and Sys type. I never hear any traffic on these channels.

Should I be locking these channels out, so my scanner just doesn't sit there like a paper weight? How is everybody else handling this? I know these channels provide some juicy info but hinders monitoring radio traffic.

Uniden need to address this as I explained in an earlier post, they need to implement a method of moving the scan or search on if there is no voice traffic for x seconds, until this happens DMR searching and scanning can stall indefinitely on this sort of channel.

 

[Jake68111]

Those would be Control Channels and may also contain voice traffic on the unused slot. Make a note of the System Type. It should show CON or CAP. Probably Slot 2. Make notes of those freqs and system type. You can eventually use them to fiqure out the trunked systems in your area. Then feel free to Avoid them so you can continue to search for new DMR stuff as they will just lock up your search, but they are of significant value to you.

Uniden need to address this as I explained in an earlier post, they need to implement a method of moving the scan or search on if there is no voice traffic for x seconds, until this happens DMR searching and scanning can stall indefinitely on this sort of channel.

Thanks guys! Will do, however, that leads me to another question....

How will I know what system those Control Channels belong to?

 

[03msc]

Thanks guys! Will do, however, that leads me to another question....

How will I know what system those Control Channels belong to?

An FCC license search for that frequency would be one option, possibly. You can search by frequency and location in their online database.

 

[woodpecker]

Thanks guys! Will do, however, that leads me to another question....

How will I know what system those Control Channels belong to?

They may not be control channels, Cap+ systems don't have a control channel, they may be rest channels or sending DMR data such as text messages, ARS, LRRP etc

DSD+ will give you as much info as is available.

 

[werinshades]

CAP+ & DMR Mixed ?

Well here's something...just discovered during a search of 461-465Mhz and found a Southwest Airlines "department" radio traffic discussing bag movement etc. so yes I confirmed it was them on 460.8875 but it flashed DMR. I waited a minute to confirm and yes, it was. So I just programmed them in on a different system etc. and Talkgroup 10 just popped up with identical radio ID's on their CAP+ system and recognized a few voices. From what I know about their radios, this could be Channel 9 or 10. Has anyone seen a CAP+ system and DMR channel prograrmmed in the same radio? I also just programmed the other frequencies in just for kicks and no other radio traffic in the DMR, just the CAP+ system.

 

[theoldcop]

I think Butel has removed the DMR version of ARC536Pro. I've tried quite a few times and it doesn't download. Still showing version 0.99.

we have ARC536 now so this helps a lot especially with Paul's spreadsheet, easy peasy

 

[fourthhorseman]

Really, I DL'd it a couple hrs ago..

Thats odd that its gone,,just gone...lol

IM me,Its already RAR'd if its pulled i can send it to you...

BTW..
WAY easier to use the software,,god i hate hand programing.....

 

[rumcajs_tr]

Uniden need to address this as I explained in an earlier post, they need to implement a method of moving the scan or search on if there is no voice traffic for x seconds, until this happens DMR searching and scanning can stall indefinitely on this sort of channel.

While I agree that the scanner should move on in scan mode, i disagree for search mode... in search mode, the scanner should stop on ANY activity, no matter whether it is data or voice... it is on the user to decide, whether it shall be stored as channel or avoided...

 

[UPMan]

Conventionally programmed DMR is considered "Search" mode, too. If it is programmed as DMR One Frequency Trunked, it will not hang on data channels.

 

[rumcajs_tr]

Conventionally programmed DMR is considered "Search" mode, too. If it is programmed as DMR One Frequency Trunked, it will not hang on data channels.

This makes sense...

 

[woodpecker]

While I agree that the scanner should move on in scan mode, i disagree for search mode... in search mode, the scanner should stop on ANY activity, no matter whether it is data or voice... it is on the user to decide, whether it shall be stored as channel or avoided...

I'd have to disagree, I've been searching and scanning DMR using various methods for years and its a real pain to have things stalling continuously on beaconing systems or data systems, many of these can't be avoided because they share data and voice, AOR implemented thier search mode this way and it works extremely well.

I can't imagine a single reason why I would want custom search mode hanging on a non voice DMR frequency for more than a couple of seconds.

 

[mancow]

I'd have to disagree, I've been searching and scanning DMR using various methods for years and its a real pain to have things stalling continuously on beaconing systems or data systems, many of these can't be avoided because they share data and voice, AOR implemented thier search mode this way and it works extremely well.

I can't imagine a single reason why I would want custom search mode hanging on a non voice DMR frequency for more than a couple of seconds.

I agree. Perhaps a DMR filter mode sort of like the old DATA with a slash through it mode. Turn it on and it looks for DMR by evaluating the signal and applying the scrutiny described.