DMR RC 3 + New Sentinel

[racingfan360]

I haven't been able to leave the alpha tag blank. I've been using ARC536 to clear the alpha tags. kikito, Does default mean Channel 00001?

In ARC536, you just leave the Alpha tag Name field completely blank for this to work.

Alternatively you can manually set the alpha tag to be blank (it's fiddly, but you have to scroll through for each alpha character and set each one to be a blank space: its the one between A and @).....once you have set them all blank, press E, then confirm to "Set default name". This in turn automatically sets the name to be the frequency. This "Set Default Name" is what I meant by Default.

For some reason if you set (manually or with ARC536) the name/alpha tag to be " Frequency MHz" then it doesn't work, yet if you leave it blank it defaults to " Frequency MHz", and does work. I assume the logic of the 436 means that if you've populated it with any info at all, that part if the window can't then be used to display TG Info. Weird.

 

[racingfan360]

Does any one have a working file for one voice I can not get my 436 to work on DMR to save my life don't know if its me or what.I am getting to the point of giving up and selling scanner. If I go to the search I hear control channel fine just not decodeing when programed in.

I'm new at this, but have you just tried entering the frequency in as a Quick Frequency save? Also check that the Select Service Types is enabled for the Service type used for Quick Frequency (I think it defaults to Custom 1) and that FM Modulation is selected for that frequency. If it's simplex try setting a low Digital Threshold for that System - Manual and 5 (although ARC536 allows you to go lower it seems).

 

[KC1UA]

I used ARC to blank out the alpha tags and it does indeed show much more info. I guess there is some merit to programming these as single channel trunked DMR as it allows much more flexibility for both TG's and Radio ID's. I'd still like to be able to alpha tag it in conventional mode and show detailed info though.

In ARC536, you just leave the Alpha tag Name field completely blank for this to work.

 

[SOFA_KING]

I haven't been able to leave the alpha tag blank. I've been using ARC536 to clear the alpha tags. kikito, Does default mean Channel 00001?

That is a problem with Sentinel. It won't let you clear a channel name that is already written in with out a stupid error message. I requested they fix that, but they haven't, so far.

Just put the frequency in exactly like this (starting with a blank space), " 162.0000MHz", or whatever frequency you are using. And the M and H need to be ccaps, but the z lower case. Then it will show Net, Site, Talk group, Color Code and Slot. PITA. I would also prefer having my desired name tag AND show all the info. Why this nonsense "no name" restriction?

Phil

 

[dave3825]

Does any one have a working file for one voice I can not get my 436 to work on DMR to save my life don't know if its me or what.I am getting to the point of giving up and selling scanner. If I go to the search I hear control channel fine just not decodeing when programed in.

I entered mine as mototrunk. I used the numbers listed next to the freqs as the lcn. I did this on 4 sites and it seems to work

What site are you trying to listen to?

 

[ST-Bob]

Does any one have a working file for one voice I can not get my 436 to work on DMR to save my life don't know if its me or what.I am getting to the point of giving up and selling scanner. If I go to the search I hear control channel fine just not decodeing when programed in.

Robert, before you go the route of having someone else program your radio - you need to make sure the following has been done:
1. Download and install the Release Candidate 3 firmware on the radio
2. Install the included version of Sentinel on your PC
3. Purchase the DMR key from Uniden
4. Install the key on the radio using the control panel
5. After 1-4 above are complete, use Sentinel to create a new system, department and channel(s) for the desired DMR/MotoTRBO system and upload to a favorites list on the radio. (or use the control panel on the radio to enter the system, department and channels)
6. Make sure you have set the appropriate Service Type for the channels and selected that Service Type on the scanner
7. Make sure that if using Location Control, you have the correct location and range for the system programmed and that the scanner is within that location/range (plus your scanner's range setting).

If you skip any of the above steps - it won't work.

 

[KC1UA]

As I watch the display for conventional DMR I wonder if there really is a practical use for the Net and Site fields? I can see where there would be for trunked systems, but do some conventional systems show this info? If not it would seem more logical to put other stuff there, such as a larger display for slot, radio ID, etc. I ask the question simply not knowing; none of the conventional DMR I'm scanning here does anything other than display Net 0, Site 0.

 

[EricCottrell]

That is a problem with Sentinel. It won't let you clear a channel name that is already written in with out a stupid error message. I requested they fix that, but they haven't, so far.

Just put the frequency in exactly like this (starting with a blank space), " 162.0000MHz", or whatever frequency you are using. And the M and H need to be ccaps, but the z lower case. Then it will show Net, Site, Talk group, Color Code and Slot. PITA. I would also prefer having my desired name tag AND show all the info. Why this nonsense "no name" restriction?

Phil

Hello,

That is the default channel name if you program a frequency on the scanner. I suspect the space is reserved for the 1000 MHz, digit since the scanner can receive up to 1300 MHz.

73 Eric

 

[robertpearsall]

ST-bob I did all the steps you listed and have had no luck with DMR radio decodes everything fine just not DMR it as if the update is taking to this radio I am at the end of my rope with this one.

 

[dave3825]

ST-bob I did all the steps you listed and have had no luck with DMR radio decodes everything fine just not DMR it as if the update is taking to this radio I am at the end of my rope with this one.

Not sure if you saw this or not
http://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-tech-support/336302-dmr-rc-3-new-sentinel-5.html#post2608259

If I was closer to the sites that you monitor I could help you out. You really might get better results posting in Onevoice discussion in the multi state systems forum at http://forums.radioreference.com/mu...evoice-mototrbo-connect-plus-net-171-a-6.html or ask around in the New Jersey forum.. Someone should have a file to send you that has the system working..




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[racingfan360]

As I watch the display for conventional DMR I wonder if there really is a practical use for the Net and Site fields? I can see where there would be for trunked systems, but do some conventional systems show this info? If not it would seem more logical to put other stuff there, such as a larger display for slot, radio ID, etc. I ask the question simply not knowing; none of the conventional DMR I'm scanning here does anything other than display Net 0, Site 0.

Couldn't agree more......it seems like a waste of valuable display space that could be put to much greater use. I'm less worried about Slot number. RadioID would be most useful, and possibly an indication of MS (Mobile Subscriber) or BS (Base Subscriber) as shown in DSD+ if that were possible..

 

[dtscho]

With Release Candidate 3, I am still seeing many incorrect DMR type designations when searching and scanning programmed conventional frequencies. I saw CAP many times today when it should have displayed DMR. Also even saw DT3 in place of DMR. Sometimes the display would correct itself after a few seconds; sometimes not. I also saw incorrect talkgroups being displayed several times, particularly for the first few seconds of a transmission.

Hopefully this can be fine-tuned some more. Thanks again for the continuing work on the DMR firmware.

Dave

 

[Voyager]

Are you sure it wasn't picking up more than one DMR signal?

 

[DaveNF2G]

Ditto what Voyager said. There is one frequency in my area where I hear two distinct DMR signals, each with its own color code, and at very different signal strengths.

 

[EricCottrell]

Hello,

I am also seeing some DT3 indications come up during conventional DMR transmissions.

I actually like the display scheme and see an information flow. For example:

I do a limit search to find DMR on UHF and do a Quick Store on DMR signals to get a list of frequencies. This also sets the color code.

When I scan the found frequencies, I get information on the Net, Site, Slot and Talkgroup. Showing Net and Site information, even in conventional, is practical. I can determine if the frequency is a Connect Plus control channel or Connect Plus traffic channel. I noticed when I hold on a Connect Plus control channel, active talkgroups are displayed and I get voice if the talkgroup is active on slot 2.

I can now build systems in favorites lists and search for talkgroups and radio ids.

73 Eric

 

[coolderb]

Not sure if you saw this or not
http://forums.radioreference.com/uniden-tech-support/336302-dmr-rc-3-new-sentinel-5.html#post2608259

If I was closer to the sites that you monitor I could help you out. You really might get better results posting in Onevoice discussion in the multi state systems forum at http://forums.radioreference.com/mu...evoice-mototrbo-connect-plus-net-171-a-6.html or ask around in the New Jersey forum.. Someone should have a file to send you that has the system working..




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I am in South Jersey and have successfully programmed and listened to a couple of DMR systems in my area on my 436. I used the steps that ST-BOB listed. The systems I have listened to are the Tropicana Casino (trunked) and AC Jitney Assoc.(single channel DMR). I also programmed Onevoice but have not heard anything on their channels in the area. Maybe Onevoice isn't very active in our areas. I will play around some more this weekend, maybe even breakout the old DSD+ Winbook/SDR dongle portable station.

 

[bg_nashville]

With Release Candidate 3, I am still seeing many incorrect DMR type designations when searching and scanning programmed conventional frequencies. I saw CAP many times today when it should have displayed DMR. Also even saw DT3 in place of DMR. Sometimes the display would correct itself after a few seconds; sometimes not. I also saw incorrect talkgroups being displayed several times, particularly for the first few seconds of a transmission.

Hopefully this can be fine-tuned some more. Thanks again for the continuing work on the DMR firmware.

Dave

I have noticed the same thing here in Nashville. I have used the same taxi company to test the different beta versions. The FCC license is WQEN266 and frequency is 152.390. On previous Beta versions the 436 would show only DMR, but it is now showing CAP during data bursts and swtiches to DT3 during voice transmissions. Additionally, the 436 is missing about 75% of the voice transmissions when I run DSDPlus side-by-side with the 436.

 

[dtscho]

Are you sure it wasn't picking up more than one DMR signal?

Ditto what Voyager said. There is one frequency in my area where I hear two distinct DMR signals, each with its own color code, and at very different signal strengths.

No, I don't believe I was hearing more than one DMR signal at a time. And the sheer number of times this occurred would also indicate that something is still wrong.

Dave

 

[troymail]

ST-bob I did all the steps you listed and have had no luck with DMR radio decodes everything fine just not DMR it as if the update is taking to this radio I am at the end of my rope with this one.

Couple of thoughts -- if you're trying to receive 450-470 Mhz, try one or both of these:

- connect an external antenna and see if that helps

- got close(r) to the system you're trying to receive and see what happens

I many times can hear digital noise in conventional mode but the radio can't seem to decode it. I'm seeing what sounds like the same thing and both of the above make a difference - unacceptable -- but there is a difference.

 

[enosjones]

Is anyone having an issue with the scanner hesitating between DMR systems and regular systems, especially when manually switching them like almost to the point of freezing up


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