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Yes, this is what one of the radio techs called this channel (152.6600) when talking to the comm. director. I am not sure what it will simulcast, but it usually is mentioned when talking about it's coverage and the uhf system coverage. So, maybe it is going to be used with the trunk system somehow.
I don't know if you listen to the trunk system or not, but a lot of the time it sounds to me like they are talking into coffee cans. It also has quite an echo effect sometimes as well. No regular traffic on these channels yet. Just short conversations off and on among techs.
Baker845 said:
Yes, this is what one of the radio techs called this channel (152.6600) when talking to the comm. director. I am not sure what it will simulcast, but it usually is mentioned when talking about it's coverage and the uhf system coverage. So, maybe it is going to be used with the trunk system somehow.
I don't know if you listen to the trunk system or not, but a lot of the time it sounds to me like they are talking into coffee cans. It also has quite an echo effect sometimes as well. No regular traffic on these channels yet. Just short conversations off and on among techs.
I know i keep asking but dose any one know when Douglas new vhf system will be going on line? I heard them doing some short testing on vhf stsyem sounds good. I keep hearing that be up spring?
Any updated info???
Thanks
Any updated info???
Thanks
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I don't think they really know. They keep saying a date which then goes by without the new equipment coming on. Several sites are still waiting for equipment to be installed. They were working on the Glendale site last week. They have said that the fire channel will remain as it is for now and they will not be switching over to digital pagers until some later date. For now they are going to remain on analog pagers. Some of the new system input frequencies are still being used by current users. They will not be available until those users switch to the new uhf trunking system which is still unfinished. I think they need to stop giving estimates and just say they are working on it and hope to be finished soon.
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I don't think they really know. They keep saying a date which then goes by without the new equipment coming on. Several sites are still waiting for equipment to be installed. They were working on the Glendale site last week. They have said that the fire channel will remain as it is for now and they will not be switching over to digital pagers until some later date. For now they are going to remain on analog pagers. Some of the new system input frequencies are still being used by current users. They will not be available until those users switch to the new uhf trunking system which is still unfinished. I think they need to stop giving estimates and just say they are working on it and hope to be finished soon.
Guess What?
I know, not another update. But I am trying to keep current information out. The Communications Director - Ray Duncan, said in a budget meeting that the new system will come on in either late june or early july. They will be selling digital paging service and some digital services on the uhf trunking system after they have worked out all the bugs in the system. They hope this will help raise some needed funds for the county especially if the timber safety net bill does not get renewed next year. So we shall see if this is it or if it misses another start up date. I will post as soon as I hear any new transmissions other than techs.
I know, not another update. But I am trying to keep current information out. The Communications Director - Ray Duncan, said in a budget meeting that the new system will come on in either late june or early july. They will be selling digital paging service and some digital services on the uhf trunking system after they have worked out all the bugs in the system. They hope this will help raise some needed funds for the county especially if the timber safety net bill does not get renewed next year. So we shall see if this is it or if it misses another start up date. I will post as soon as I hear any new transmissions other than techs.
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System seems to be coming together. Transmissions are sounding better and techs are continuing to fine tune everything. Still does not sound like any system I am used to listening to, but I am reasonably happy with what I hear. I now use a free program called trunkview to monitor the various control channels. It will help to id units and provides a lot of interesting information. It shows site voting, channels in use, adjacent sites and their control frequencies and etc..
No regular traffic yet, just techs and communication employees.
System seems to be coming together. Transmissions are sounding better and techs are continuing to fine tune everything. Still does not sound like any system I am used to listening to, but I am reasonably happy with what I hear. I now use a free program called trunkview to monitor the various control channels. It will help to id units and provides a lot of interesting information. It shows site voting, channels in use, adjacent sites and their control frequencies and etc..
No regular traffic yet, just techs and communication employees.
Hope it will be soon!!
The last word was that of the Comm Director Ray Duncan and he said late june or early july. No new activity as of today 6/26. They are still building the Red Butte site and have power issues with Tiller and Glendale. My info is that Red Butte may be done by mid july. So unless they miss their guess again, it should be on within a month?.
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The last word was that of the Comm Director Ray Duncan and he said late june or early july. No new activity as of today 6/26. They are still building the Red Butte site and have power issues with Tiller and Glendale. My info is that Red Butte may be done by mid july. So unless they miss their guess again, it should be on within a month?.
Thanks for the updates! Awesome research! 
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What type of system is this? Motorola, EDACS?
Douglas County Systems
They will have two systems. One is vhf high like they have now, just several more transmit/receive sites with different input frequencies and two repeater style fire channels. It will be used by law, fire and search and rescue.
The second system is an MPT-1327 trunk system in the 453 and 460 uhf range. It will be used by public works, parks and health services. A seperate single site will be used for the jail.
They will have two systems. One is vhf high like they have now, just several more transmit/receive sites with different input frequencies and two repeater style fire channels. It will be used by law, fire and search and rescue.
The second system is an MPT-1327 trunk system in the 453 and 460 uhf range. It will be used by public works, parks and health services. A seperate single site will be used for the jail.
Well DCSO finely swiched to new system as of 8am for Law 1 and 11am for Law 2. Fire Channels are not up yet. System sounds good haven't heard DCSO on my handled in 6 years..(.VHF) Like i stated first Blue and orange Ch are now called law 1 and law 2.
Not impressed yet, more work needed.
System not sounding good all over, just in spots. Where I am at I am receiving at least two transmitters and they are interfering with each other making it difficult at times to make out what's being said. I notice they are using 151.4 on their transmit freq.'s now as well. Law 1 (Blue) is worse than Law 2 (Orange). They are working on it, needs a lot of help before it will be good at least here and I live where the signal used to be just about the best in the County.
System not sounding good all over, just in spots. Where I am at I am receiving at least two transmitters and they are interfering with each other making it difficult at times to make out what's being said. I notice they are using 151.4 on their transmit freq.'s now as well. Law 1 (Blue) is worse than Law 2 (Orange). They are working on it, needs a lot of help before it will be good at least here and I live where the signal used to be just about the best in the County.
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Yea i would have say that your right it is hard to hear law 1 like you said. Fire didn't get on air today but from lisning to it last week when they were testing fire ch 2 sounded better then fire 1. Sounds like as you said one transmitter inerfering which i think is Gardiner and Roman nose west end. Well like evey new radio system the bugs need to be worked out only way is get it in servies find out .
When will they swich fire channels?
Yea i would have say that your right it is hard to hear law 1 like you said. Fire didn't get on air today but from lisning to it last week when they were testing fire ch 2 sounded better then fire 1. Sounds like as you said one transmitter inerfering which i think is Gardiner and Roman nose west end. Well like evey new radio system the bugs need to be worked out only way is get it in servies find out .
When will they swich fire channels?
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Questionable improvement
After listening a couple of days and driving around. I can't see where the vhf law upgrade made any real improvement overall. Some of the weak areas are covered better. But most of the previously strong areas are now not very good. I think adding more transmitters they naturally had to turn down power on Scott Mountain. It covered the vast areas of the county real well. Now the areas close to a site are fairly good and in between the signal is scratchy and or you hear several sites at once which makes an echo effect. It is getting better and they are working on it. However after the length of time they used to install everything, you would think they would have had more of the bugs worked out before switching. I guess only time will tell. Not a bit impressed yet.
After listening a couple of days and driving around. I can't see where the vhf law upgrade made any real improvement overall. Some of the weak areas are covered better. But most of the previously strong areas are now not very good. I think adding more transmitters they naturally had to turn down power on Scott Mountain. It covered the vast areas of the county real well. Now the areas close to a site are fairly good and in between the signal is scratchy and or you hear several sites at once which makes an echo effect. It is getting better and they are working on it. However after the length of time they used to install everything, you would think they would have had more of the bugs worked out before switching. I guess only time will tell. Not a bit impressed yet.
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As an update to my 8/22 post. I still see no real improvement in the new VHF upgrade. Many sites were turned off because they interfered with each other. Signals are weaker, coverage is still poor. To make matters even worse, when new vehicle and hand held radios were bought, they went with lower power units to save money. They did this because of all the new added towers in the upgraded system. But as mentioned, many sites are off so weaker radios didn't help the coverage problems either.
The new trunk system is still not being used for regular radio traffic. After several classes, many employees still can't seem to figure out the radio's. It also has coverage issues and at least three sites are still not online.
The dispatch center is under fire again as well. Several users are dissatisfied with their service. But can't do it any cheaper, so they are over that perverbal barrel of having to deal with many issues because of short budgets. Many are upset because they were not included in the upgrade meetings and never were able to give their input.
Five years and 9.5+ million dollars and what do we have here. More of the same. No it is even worse than before in my opinion. Hopefully they will throw some more homeland security money at it. Government ideas at their best!!
As an update to my 8/22 post. I still see no real improvement in the new VHF upgrade. Many sites were turned off because they interfered with each other. Signals are weaker, coverage is still poor. To make matters even worse, when new vehicle and hand held radios were bought, they went with lower power units to save money. They did this because of all the new added towers in the upgraded system. But as mentioned, many sites are off so weaker radios didn't help the coverage problems either.
The new trunk system is still not being used for regular radio traffic. After several classes, many employees still can't seem to figure out the radio's. It also has coverage issues and at least three sites are still not online.
The dispatch center is under fire again as well. Several users are dissatisfied with their service. But can't do it any cheaper, so they are over that perverbal barrel of having to deal with many issues because of short budgets. Many are upset because they were not included in the upgrade meetings and never were able to give their input.
Five years and 9.5+ million dollars and what do we have here. More of the same. No it is even worse than before in my opinion. Hopefully they will throw some more homeland security money at it. Government ideas at their best!!
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