DSDPlus DSD+ 2.516 Released Sunday, January 12, 2025

[CanesFan95]

Change Log
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DSD+ 2.516

*** Make a backup copy of your DSDPlus.radios file. ***

Due to a file format change, this update will discard
all Motorola talker alias data that is present in your DSDPlus.radios file.
This update will reacquire your talker alias data from the DSD+ talker alias server.

Removed -t -T and -E command line parameters.

Added menu controls for console window and console log file.

Added some additional entries to the Call Priorities menu.

Added decoding of more DMR AVL messages.

Added option to include current site's neighbor list during control channel hunts.
This should enable auto-roaming when the current control channel becomes too weak to decode.
DSD+ will not use neighbor entries that have system IDs different than the current site.
This feature does not support all trunking types. It will work on P25 trunking sites and
is also likely to work on NEXEDGE DFA sites and TIII DFA sites.

Implemented a simplified version of the Motorola Trunking Talker Alias
decoding algorithm that Ilya Smirnov generously donated to the DSD+ project.
Motorola talker alias decoding is now done in DSD+ itself.

Decoded Harris trunking talker aliases and Motorola trunking talker aliases are
uploaded to the DSD+ talker alias server and are made available to other DSD+ users.

This update will query the DSD+ talker alias server for alias data.
This means that your copy of DSD+ does not need to see and decode every talker alias;
if another DSD+ FL user has already monitored transmissions from a given P25 trunking radio,
its alias data will be available to your copy of DSD+.
This can be helpful with radios that rarely transmit.

 

[dave3825]

Been going for almost 8 minutes downloading one after another. This is a real nice feature especially for those who travel.

edit
ran 26 minutes, downloaded and wrote 1300+ aliases

 

[BM82557]

Downloading once I disabled my VPN

 

[mtindor]

I did notice that after the initial time re-fetching the cleartext that was stored on the server, I have gotten a few new ones back from the server that filled in radios I had that never transmitted. If a radio transmitted on a site that user A monitors but only registered on a site that user B monitors, then once user A's instance sends the alias to the server, the server will send it back out to user B when user B's DSDPlus polls for it. Nice. I've often had a couple dozen RIDs for a particular system with no alias simply because the radios never transmitted while I was monitoring.

Keep in mind you won't get all known radio IDs from the server, only those that match radios you have in your .radios file. If somebody else monitored another site on the other end of a state and captured 3000 aliases and sent them to the server, those wont automatically get fetched into your radios file if you never personally monitored the radios on the site(s) that you monitor.

So for a system like Starcom21, with something like 18,000 aliases or more now, if somebody monitors a single site and has only ever "seen" 3000 radios on the system, they are only going to get the aliases for those 3000 aliases. 2.516 isn't going to miraculously send their instance all 18,000 aliases. After all, the server only sends them after DSDPlus contacts the server and says it needs them, to my knowledge. And a person's DSDPlus would only request ones that it already has radio IDs for it the DSDPlus.radios files.



Mike

 

[bravo14]

A few mints ago I decide to update laptop. I'm getting Alias server returned talker. When I was in NC last month guessing when I didn't have all OTA seems updating to the ones I didn't have.

*It was doing all NC now it is on FL big file for sure.

 

[adamfancher]

Rock ON! This talker alias support is awesome!

 

[RaleighGuy]

Did not start FMP24, and it is working on loading the new/replacement aliases (averaging about one every 1.5 seconds). I'll let it do it's thing before I start it up.

 

[mtindor]

Did not start FMP24, and it is working on loading the new/replacement aliases (averaging about one every 1.5 seconds). I'll let it do it's thing before I start it up.

That's what I did. didn't matter if I was monitoring a system or not. It checked the DSDPlus.radios file, saw there were OTA / Cleartext aliases of the old format in it, and it asked the server to update.

I'm glad the DSDplus.radios file is "cleaned up" now and doesn't have 5-mile long lines of gibberish to look through. It also looks like the author took some care to add some better delimiting to each field so that the .radios file can more easily be exported into Excel or something.

 

[RaleighGuy]

That's what I did. didn't matter if I was monitoring a system or not. It checked the DSDPlus.radios file, saw there were OTA / Cleartext aliases of the old format in it, and it asked the server to update.

I'm glad the DSDplus.radios file is "cleaned up" now and doesn't have 5-mile long lines of gibberish to look through. It also looks like the author took some care to add some better delimiting to each field so that the .radios file can more easily be exported into Excel or something.

Just finished one system, starting second, larger one.

 

[Reconrider]

Just finished one system, starting second, larger one.

you should setup an airspy server on an extra dongle for us so we can all get NC from our homes haha

 

[RaleighGuy]

you should setup an airspy server on an extra dongle for us so we can all get NC from our homes haha

If you are buying me the equipment I would be open to doing it.

 

[seagravebuff60]

Does anyone know how the new .radios file is formatted for Moto OTA Alaises?

The header for the .radio file says this. However, some information might be missing at the end.

; line format: protocol, networkID, group, radio, priority, override, hits, timestamp, "radio alias"

This is an example of a Moto OTA entry:

P25, BEE00.B83, 324, 107, 50, Normal, 430, 2024/12/23 10:29, "", "TOPS OP-7", 482A2D2B

The first set of quotes at the end is the User-generated alias, and the second is the Moto OTA alias, but what is the 482A2D2B at the end?

 

[VA3ADP]

Mine had about 415 OTA ID's. took a couple minutes also.

 

[mtindor]

Does anyone know how the new .radios file is formatted for Moto OTA Alaises?

The header for the .radio file says this. However, some information might be missing at the end.


This is an example of a Moto OTA entry:


The first set of quotes at the end is the User-generated alias, and the second is the Moto OTA alias, but what is the 482A2D2B at the end?

It's a checksum.

 

[DaveNF2G]

Not sure I want to do this update. My .radios file for the Albany/Schenectady County P25 system has thousands of existing OTA aliases.

 

[mtindor]

If you were one of the earlier downloaders of 2.516, you will likely notice that approximately 50% CPU power is being used to process things. This has been corrected in a new upload -- same version 2.516. So you should (a) re-download 2.516, (b) shut down DSDPlus, (c) unpack the archive and overrwrite DSDPlus.exe, and then restart DSDPlus. That should take care of the increased CPU usage that some have reported.

 

[mtindor]

Not sure I want to do this update. My .radios file for the Albany/Schenectady County P25 system has thousands of existing OTA aliases.

Then don't. Stick in the past. You won't be able to decode any more new aliases because I'm betting the old 2.509 version will eventually be blocked from communicating with the server.

If you (a) back up your DSDPlus.radios file but (b) leave the existing one in place and then install 2.516, it will go through and query the server for all of hte aliases again and will re-write your DSDPlus.radios file. You'll be fine. It might take you a few hours to have all of the OTA Aliases repopulate in your DSDPlus.radios file, but they will repopulate.

 

[BM82557]

If you were one of the earlier downloaders of 2.516, you will likely notice that approximately 50% CPU power is being used to process things. This has been corrected in a new upload -- same version 2.516. So you should (a) re-download 2.516, (b) shut down DSDPlus, (c) unpack the archive and overrwrite DSDPlus.exe, and then restart DSDPlus. That should take care of the increased CPU usage that some have reported.

How do you re-download the updated 2.516 ? manual check for updates says I have the most recent copy.

 

[mtindor]

How do you re-download the updated 2.516 ? manual check for updates says I have the most recent copy.

It's convoluted. Since it's the same version, you are going to have to reference an old link that you would have gotten back in the days when it was distributed via email, and then just change the version number in the link to 2516. Power users can usually figure it out. But of course how many of us still have an email referencing the download link from before the time when you could download directly from DSDPlus? Some people just aren't going to be able to figure out how to do it without contacting dsdplusfastlane@gmail.com I guess. Or one could just wait for the next version to be released down the road. My version (not updated, the original 2.516) is using a miniscule amount of CPU. So I don't know under what conditions the CPU hogging occurs. I don't care if mine doesn't get updated. But some may be running on weaker hardware and may really need to have the updated version.

If I search my email for "DSDPlus Fast Lane Release" I see the old 2.228 and 2.212 (and older) notices, which contain links to download. I'd grab one of those links, and then modify the 2.xxx to 2.516 and re-download. PITA I know. I'm just a messenger.

 

[mwjones]

Not sure I want to do this update. My .radios file for the Albany/Schenectady County P25 system has thousands of existing OTA aliases.

I had about 3200 MOT Aliases in my 41k+ radios file from multiple systems. Backed up the file, did the upgrade and started DSDPlus. It took just over an hour to reacquire all of the aliases (plus 500 that others had acquired but I hadn't received since the MOT Alias support was added) and did nothing with the Harris aliases that already existed in the file.

I haven't fully tested it (I've only got a single MOT system in listening range of home that uses OTA Aliases), but I do appreciate the much cleaner radios file instead of those lengthy encrypted strings after every radio.

Not to mention the addition of the roaming (which is a great addition - I have a Harris system I'll be testing that with today).