DSDPlus DSDplus and Cap+

[vjmoore]

im trying to find out my LCN's using DSDPlus for my scanner but i cant seem to understand my output file here is what RR has on my local system

Site Frequency Table​

LCN	LSN	Frequency	Color Code
01	1	153.1175c	2
01	2	153.1175c	2
02	3	153.4475c	2
02	4	153.4475c	2
03	5	153.335c	2
03	6	153.335c	2
04	7	153.5675c	2
04	8	153.5675c	2

but its not working im using a BCD996P2 as my scanner i use my SDR for shortwave and such here is the output from the DSDPlus event log. its driving me mad ! I'm using Proscan to program my scanner.

 

[RaleighGuy]

im trying to find out my LCN's using DSDPlus for my scanner but i cant seem to understand my output file here is what RR has on my local system

Site Frequency Table​

LCN	LSN	Frequency	Color Code
01	1	153.1175c	2
01	2	153.1175c	2
02	3	153.4475c	2
02	4	153.4475c	2
03	5	153.335c	2
03	6	153.335c	2
04	7	153.5675c	2
04	8	153.5675c	2

but its not working im using a BCD996P2 as my scanner i use my SDR for shortwave and such here is the output from the DSDPlus event log. its driving me mad ! I'm using Proscan to program my scanner.

The event log tells you the problem, not sure what lines are currently set at, but if you read the notes or threads in the RR Forums you will see the requirements on how to set each channel. The event log tells you (for lines 81-149 in the Radio file) DSDPlus.radios line #97: Protocol name should be "TIIIStd" or "TIIInonStd".

Start with this thread/post then read through the rest of that thread to understand better.

DSDPlus - DSD+ Tier III improvement needed

DSDPlus can only report accurate system information for TIII NonStandard systems if the supporting files contain data on that system already. When encountering a new system or site that is previously undocumented, the only option for NonStandard viewing is to use Force Non Standard in the...

forums.radioreference.com

 

[CanesFan95]

But he's asking about Cap+.

DSD uses Logical Slot Numbers (LSNs), not Logical Channel Numbers (LCNs). Each frequency has 2 slots, thus 2 LSNs. Take a look at line 151 in that file:



Whatever frequency you were tuned to when that line was generated is LSNs 5 and 6. To convert that to LCNs for the scanner, take the 2nd number (the even number, 6 in this case) and divide it by 2. The LCN in this case would be 3. DSD+ tells you the LSNs only when someone keys up and talks on whatever RF frequency you're parked on.

If that table is coming from the RR database, it's only as accurate as what people submit and it could be wrong.

 

[dave3825]

But he's asking about Cap+.

His event log does reference Cap+ but the freqs he posted come back to a DMR Motorola Connect Plus (TRBO)

This site Sam Houston Electric Cooperative Site: Livingston

OP should enable,



and,






His event log also shows,

2025/04/28 07:15:37 Base files test: 4 files passed; 4 files failed (outdated or corrupted); 10 files not found
2025/04/28 07:15:37 See console log for details

Could just be FMPP, FMPA related

 

[seagravebuff60]

What system are you trying to monitor?

Do you have the DMR upgrade on the 996P2?

 

[RaleighGuy]

What system are you trying to monitor?

Do you have the DMR upgrade on the 996P2?

He asked about DSD+ not 996P2

im trying to find out my LCN's using DSDPlus

 

[CanesFan95]

But he's using DSD+ to figure out LCNs to program his scanner.

 

[RaleighGuy]

But he's using DSD+ to figure out LCNs to program his scanner.

But the question was about how to read the event log in DSD+

 

[vjmoore]

What system are you trying to monitor?

Do you have the DMR upgrade on the 996P2?

Yes and im getting nowhere with this here is what i have and its not working.
.117 = Site 1 Repeater Cap 1-2
.447 = Site 2 Repeater Cap 3-4
.335 = Site 3 Repeater Cap 5-6
.567 = Site 4 Repeater Cap 7-8

 

[cg]

If you want to program the scanner, DO NOT use the LSN (slot numbers) that DSD+ generates. Use the LCN (Channel numbers) that Uniden requires.
Also, you have posted each frequency as a Site. That is incorrect. Where you have Site 1, 2, 3, 4 needs to be LCN 1, 2, 3, 4
Last, have you updated the firmware in the radio in the last 6 months? There was a DMR related update in the fall for that radio. Not the DMR key but firmware updated with BC_VUP program.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

With CAP+ LCN = the even number of the LSN pair divided by 2
LSN 1&2 = LCN 1. LSN 3&4 = LCN 2, and so on...

 

[DaveNF2G]

Delete your event log (it has too many different things going on to be useful) and run the system again.

Also show us your DSDPlus.networks and DSDPlus.frequencies files.

 

[vjmoore]

my DSDPlus.networks and DSDPlus.frequencies files are empty no text at all i will upload my events log. i just put in LCN 1-4 based on what i can see 2 of the Cap+ freqs seem to always never be used my current firmware is 1.11.07 and yes i did pay for proscan and the DMR unlock key from the Uniden Site and the key worked its unlocked also its defaulted to MotoTrbo in the proscan is it not mototrbo ? is it DMR one freq ?

 

[seagravebuff60]

my DSDPlus.networks and DSDPlus.frequencies files are empty no text at all i will upload my events log. i just put in LCN 1-4 based on what i can see 2 of the Cap+ freqs seem to always never be used my current firmware is 1.11.07 and yes i did pay for proscan and the DMR unlock key from the Uniden Site and the key worked its unlocked also its defaulted to MotoTrbo in the proscan is it not mototrbo ? is it DMR one freq ?

Ok, so it seems like we are trying to do too many things here. My understanding is you want to explore this system first with DSD+ and then input it into the 996P2? What system are you monitoring?

In DSD+, Cap+ systems must be formatted manualy in the .frequencies, .networks & .sites file. First, you are monitoring site 2 of that Cap+ System based on your event log. Next, There is not enough info in the .event file you provided for me to help you with the exact frequencies. However, read the notes.txt file (Located in your DSD+ directory) around line 3110, which will explain how to monitor Cap+. If you do not want to share your frequencies and systems, look at the necessary DSD+ files; it will show you how to format each file correctly.

For the 996P2, yes, MOTOTRBO is correct for Cap+. You can also import the system directly from the DB via Proscan, and it will load the LCNs from the DB into the system. If there are no talkgroups defined, turn on ID Search for the system.

If the system is not in the database, we need more information from you so we can determine the correct frequency lineup to input into DSD+ and guide you further from there. Ensure you enable verbose logging in DSD+ so you can see the frequency and not just the DCC. I hope this helps.

 

[vjmoore]

nothing im doing is working on my scanner i know i got the right LCN's but its not working and i know i unlocked DMR so lost...

 

[mtindor]

nothing im doing is working on my scanner i know i got the right LCN's but its not working and i know i unlocked DMR so lost...

Looks like you monitoring Sam Houston Electric Cooperative Site 1 (Livingston). That looks to be the only site with confirmed data. Ignore RR data for any of the other sites at this time because none of the LCNs on the other sites are valid as 5-3-2025

In your scanner, you should have a MotoTRBO system set up with four frequencies, each with a specific LCN and Color Code

153.1175 LCN 1 Color Code 2
153.4475 LCN 2 Color Code 2
153.335 LCN 3 Color Code 2
153.5675 LCN 4 Color Code 2

That's assuming that whomever "confirmed" the site details on 4/26/2023 is correct.

You either need to make sure and add talkgroups to the scanner as well, and/or set ID SEARCH (not ID SCAN) for that system so that it will listen for any/all talkgroup and private call activity, regardless of whether you have the talkgroup programmed in.

 

[dave3825]

im trying to find out my LCN's using DSDPlus for my scanner but i cant seem to understand my output file here is what RR has on my local system

but its not working im using a BCD996P2 as my scanner

I'm using Proscan to program my scanner.

Yes and im getting nowhere with this here is what i have and its not working.
.117 = Site 1 Repeater Cap 1-2
.447 = Site 2 Repeater Cap 3-4
.335 = Site 3 Repeater Cap 5-6
.567 = Site 4 Repeater Cap 7-8

What exactly are you having issues with? The system is in the database and @ProScan is able to download it with LCN info.



Is that not working? As of 2023 there is only one talk group listed which may not have much activity. Since the last update was 2023, its advisable to set the scanner to ID Search as ID Scan will only try to scan that one programmed tg. ID Search will look at everything on the system. You could also leave the color codes set to search instead of 2 in the event they changed or are wrong. What exactly is not working?


The system is listed as a Connect Plus and you have posted info referencing a Cap+ system.

Yes and im getting nowhere with this here is what i have and its not working.
.117 = Site 1 Repeater Cap 1-2
.447 = Site 2 Repeater Cap 3-4
.335 = Site 3 Repeater Cap 5-6
.567 = Site 4 Repeater Cap 7-8

Where are you getting that from? Are you using those freqs in DSDPlus, and that's what DSDPlus is reporting?


If it were me, I would delete the 1r.log file and the dsdplus.event file. Then enable the settings shown in post 4. Also post your DSDPLus freqs file and networks file. Then run the freqs again and post the log and event file.

But again, what exactly is not working?

 

[cg]

he has not populated the Networks file or the Frequencies file so Cap+ will not work without that done.
His first Event log did show a fair bit of voice activity but unsure if it was the correct system as the frequencies did not show in Event.

Sit on each of the channels with either DSDPlus or the scanner (or both) and see if the voice traffic seems to be the user you are trying to monitor. Depending on the area, you could hear more than one user.

 

[seagravebuff60]

Cap+ and Con+ are 2 different system types.

But regardless both must be programmed into the DSD+ files manualy, by you the user. Thats how DSD+ works with DMR.