EMS on MURS?

[mmckenna]

Thats whats just so confusing. Why don't they jusy use one of their many freqs?

If they are a real public safety agency, there's really no good reason other than they may have zero radio technical knowledge. Sometimes small agencies will rely on a member or some other random person to tell them what to do with radios. Sometimes that person was just really good at watching YouTube videos, or surfing hobby radio sites. They sometimes assume that makes them a "radio expert" and there's no one to correct them.

If it's not a real public safety agency, then they may not have legal access to anything else. There are contract medics for business/industrial, or the whacker groups, that wouldn't have access to anything other than MURS, GMRS or FRS.

Is there anything stopping someone from chatting with EMS?

No.
Especially if they are using MURS, FRS, or GMRS. They have to share the frequencies like everyone else. Hopefully they'd be smart enough to set some sort of coded squelch.

Heck, even if they had legit public safety pool channels, there are plenty of whackers out there that see no issue what so ever with loading their E-Bay Motorola's, amateur radios, or CCR's with public safety frequencies that they are convinced they can transmit on any time they feel frightened. Numerous FCC enforcement actions for this sort of bull****ery.

Just doesnt seem like a good sysyem..

Nope, sure doesn't. But there's far too many people that assume that if Amazon sells it, it's OK to use. The thought process generally stops right there.

And far too many people that think that bypassing the FCC rules is totally acceptable.

 

[Golay]

It's just a thought. From reading the original post, he may be hearing the medical department at a company.

 

[rf_patriot200]

Its probably an off system channel someone programmed into their radios for non-offical comms. Hence don't want to be recorded on an official channel.

Hell my state system has the MURS channels programmed into a LOT of radios in P25 mode. Technically illegal but until the FCC decides to do something it will be the status quo. Yes I have never used MURS in an XTS5000.

While I have no need to use Murs in that way, I think I have them in my XTS 2500 as well.

 

[rf_patriot200]

It depends on the use case. You don't always need high power.

IF it's comms for life,death or property, QRP doesn't cut it, when that message needs to be Heard the first time !

 

[Echo4Thirty]

There is a reason that 110 watt VHF/UHF public safety radios exsist. Even the APX8500 comes in a 110w variant for V/U. Sometimes high power is what makes the difference.

 

[Coffeemug]

Except that Murs, Gmrs or Frs are Not reliable for Public Safety. A half watt on Frs, isn't going to cut it and 2 watts on Murs doesn't do it either, and opening themselves up for All kinds of people creating interference on Gmrs doesn't work either. Those are Not reliable spectrums for Any public safety agencies. Dedicated, Licensed frequencies that Prevent public interference are the Norm. Most agencies also have Tac channels or simplex that are used for public events.

No Dah! The Philadelphia Police Explorers use MURS channel 4 (154.570) for their comms. Other Police Departments allow the Law Enforcement Explorers to use a Talk Around Channel for their comms. But on rare occasions, you will hear Law Enforcement or EMTs use Part 95 Radio Services for comms. I didn't say Public Safety Agencies use Part 95 Radio Services all the time. I just said, Public Safety Agencies will use Part 95 channels in certain situations.

 

[Echo4Thirty]

Ill bet WalMart loves them being on 154.57 considering its their channel 1 (at stores that have not switched to 900), and its CSQ to boot!

 

[N4KVE]

Here all the Walmarts piggyback from 154.57, to 154.60. It’s one of those two freq’s.

 

[rescuecomm]

No Walmart ops on MURS in Upstate SC. The door watchers had what looked like a Cobra PX655.

 

[Don_Burke]

151.82 was never a licensable frequency for public safety or business. For Part 90 users, it was a "hole" between 151.805 and 151.835 in the original Part 91 business band allocations decades ago. I'm wondering if you're picking up an image frequency of a legally licensed frequency or if someone programmed 151.82 MHz in the EMS radios as a private BS channel. That stuff happens occasionally.

ULS shows 27 expired or terminated licenses for 151.82.

 

[Rq17954z]

I hear what seems to be EMS on MURS 151.820. It's my understanding you can use any MURS frequency, but would that maybe not be a good idea to disrupt this one? Why are they on there??

I was doing some service searches on my BC125 . There was a bus company on the railroad frequency's also found what sounded like a ems service on the Marine band. You never know what find .

 

[ecps92]

I was doing some service searches on my BC125 . There was a bus company on the railroad frequency's also found what sounded like a ems service on the Marine band. You never know what find .

Marine Band (Int'l) is (many) allocated to part 90 here in the US