Extend Range on a Uniden BC75XLT

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paulwall00

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So I am extremely new at this so please bear with me. I live in a rural mountainous area. I have a Uniden BC75XLT. I want to listen in to a local police dispatch roughly 25-30 miles away. I bought a Diamond antenna to replace the stock antenna. This has helped as it went from never picking up a signal to now picking up a very weak signal depending where I am in my house. I believe, if I am not mistaken, I am looking to pick up an analog VHF High signal band. I have thoughts of the only way to try to better pick up this signal is to put an external antenna on my roof. Is this the only way? Is there anything else I can do? If anyone can post video tutorials if I have to mount a external antenna to my roof (like how to connect that to my handheld scanner) that would be great. Maybe buy a different handheld scanner and/or a different antenna to attach to it? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 

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Unless someone is streaming a scanner feed online for that agency, putting an antenna outside your home is the only real solution.

You can only do so much with an antenna mounted on top of a portable radio.

You'd need to be sure which frequency/frequencies the agency is using and design your antenna system for that, it will give you the ideal performance. You can get "all band" scanner antennas, but they can be lacking if all you need is a specific band.

Moving the radio around the house won't be a viable option anymore, you'll want it in one place connected to the antenna. You can use bluetooth speakers to extend the listening to where you are in your home.

If they are on VHF….
An antenna like this might be a good low cost choice: https://www.theantennafarm.com/catalog/laird-technologies-crx150-4120
There are others, that's just an example. I will say that you should really avoid the low tier Chinese antennas. Tram, Browning, and some of the amateur radio oriented antennas can be real stinkers. No point in putting the labor/money into a cheap antenna if you want it to survive.
You can also choose a discone type antenna, which will generally cover all the bands your scanner is capable of receiving.

You'll want decent coaxial cable to run from the antenna to your radio.
Basic RG-6 satellite TV antenna cable can work well, is cheap, and easy to put connectors on. You do want to keep your cable run as short as reasonably possible, so don't buy a 100 foot roll for a 30 foot run and leave the excess coiled up.
You'll either need the cable terminated with connectors to match your antenna and radio, or you'll need to use adapters. Avoid using adapters if you can, they can be problematic weak spots in your system.

Waterproof your outdoor connections really well. Any water intrusion will corrode the cable and lead to issues.

You really do need to have proper grounding, especially if you are in the mountains. It's required by the National Electric Code. The antenna mounting pole and antenna base need to be grounded with at minimum a 6 gauge wire to a grounding rod below the antenna. By code, that grounding rod needs to be bonded to your home electric entrance ground rod. You'll also want a lightning arrestor installed where the coaxial cable enters the home.

It's a bit of work and cost, but done right you'll see a big improvement in performance.
There are a number of different ways to do this, but those are some examples. You do need a proper antenna, you do need good coaxial cable, you absolutely do need proper grounding, so don't skimp on those.
 

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So I am extremely new at this so please bear with me. I live in a rural mountainous area. I have a Uniden BC75XLT. I want to listen in to a local police dispatch roughly 25-30 miles away. I bought a Diamond antenna to replace the stock antenna. This has helped as it went from never picking up a signal to now picking up a very weak signal depending where I am in my house. I believe, if I am not mistaken, I am looking to pick up an analog VHF High signal band. I have thoughts of the only way to try to better pick up this signal is to put an external antenna on my roof. Is this the only way? Is there anything else I can do? If anyone can post video tutorials if I have to mount a external antenna to my roof (like how to connect that to my handheld scanner) that would be great. Maybe buy a different handheld scanner and/or a different antenna to attach to it? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
Hi paulwall00, I would NOT PUT any external antenna on a your BC-75XLT as it will get RF-intermod as unlike the next step up model BC-125AT has ctcss/dcs commonly refered to PL-private line, it will be a disaster for you. Just use a Diamond RH-77CA or a Hustler Mobile Magnetic antenna on a outside air conditioner.
Any further questions, please contact me.

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I appreciate all the responses. I'll see what I can do regarding what everyone said. If I have any more questions, I won't hesitate to ask.


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In a rural area, and trying to access a distant system that you can barely hear with a rubber duck antenna, the advice from mmckena is spot on. An outside discone or directional yagi would more than likely bring in that distant system a lot better. Now, if you are in a metro area, or suburban, then Bob's advice might be of some help. Too much can add up to not enough. Before investing in an antenna try the paperclip trick. If that system comes in a lot better with just a paperclip, a bigger better antenna is not needed.
 

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Hi paulwall00, I would NOT PUT any external antenna on a your BC-75XLT as it will get RF-intermod as unlike the next step up model BC-125AT has ctcss/dcs commonly refered to PL-private line, it will be a disaster for you. Just use a Diamond RH-77CA or a Hustler Mobile Magnetic antenna on a outside air conditioner.
Any further questions, please contact me.

Bob

Can you explain what ctcss/dcs is? Or give me a link where I can read more about it.

I have a BC-75XLT and intermod can certainly be a problem at times.

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CTCSS/DCS won't prevent intermod. It will hide the signal, but you may hear it when the squelch opens for the correct signal.

If intermod is an issue, filtering can fix it, but that's hard to do on a portable scanner.
 

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CTCSS/DCS won't prevent intermod. It will hide the signal, but you may hear it when the squelch opens for the correct signal.

If intermod is an issue, filtering can fix it, but that's hard to do on a portable scanner.


Thanks.

And intermod is hard to fix when your primary interest is the railband and NOAA radio is the primary problem with intermod.
 

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Thanks.

And intermod is hard to fix when your primary interest is the railband and NOAA radio is the primary problem with intermod.
JoshuaHufford, listening to railroad is even a bigger problem because it is MOSTLY CQ-carrier squelch NOT using PL-ctcss/dcs. DO NOT use a roof top mounted antenna on a Bearcat BC-75XLT as it will be a disaster! You should of purchased for a few dollars more, the BC-125 AT that has triple conversion circuitry and many more features. I'm even surprised that the BC-75XLT has been discontinued for that newer model that is WAY over-priced.
 

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Par makes a great filter for eliminating/reducing NOAA interference (it's the VHFSYM162HT):


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I'm afraid the railband is just too close to NOAA for this to work.
JoshuaHufford, listening to railroad is even a bigger problem because it is MOSTLY CQ-carrier squelch NOT using PL-ctcss/dcs. DO NOT use a roof top mounted antenna on a Bearcat BC-75XLT as it will be a disaster! You should of purchased for a few dollars more, the BC-125 AT that has triple conversion circuitry and many more features. I'm even surprised that the BC-75XLT has been discontinued for that newer model that is WAY over-priced.


I don't have my BC-75XLT connected to a roof top antenna, I mostly use it in a vehicle or on my belt with a rubber duck antenna. I have a Motorolla Radius connected to my roof top antenna and of course it performs much better. The BC-75XLT would probably not have been my first choice but it was a gift from my wife.

Can you tell me what triple conversion circuitry does?
 

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I'm afraid the railband is just too close to NOAA for this to work.



I don't have my BC-75XLT connected to a roof top antenna, I mostly use it in a vehicle or on my belt with a rubber duck antenna. I have a Motorolla Radius connected to my roof top antenna and of course it performs much better. The BC-75XLT would probably not have been my first choice but it was a gift from my wife.

Can you tell me what triple conversion circuitry does?
It eliminates interference from nearby transmitters! The BC-75XLT "may" have double conversion circuitry which doesn't eliminate RF-interference.
 

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I'm afraid the railband is just too close to NOAA for this to work.

Have you tried it? The Par 162 MHz filter has a very sharp notch. The NOAA frequencies are knocked back by 30+ dB. The upper range of the RR frequencies are affected as well, but not to nearly the same degree. I'd be very surprised if the Par filter wasn't a considerable help to any rail fan living near a NOAA transmitter.
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No I have not tried it. I guess it depends on how much it costs if it would be worthwhile to give it a try, wish they posted prices on their website. I'll have to contact them.
 

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Triple-Conversion Circuitry - virtually eliminates any interference from IF (intermediate frequency) images, so you hear only the selected frequency.

well you can rule that one out.
so try an outside antenna and see what happens to you.
any handheld can be used as a "base",
but it is hard to use a base as a handheld.
rado in one pocket, small car battery in the other...!?
and you can use RG6 for coax, it is cheaper then the others and is the regular cable hook-up coax.
you can even get it (or i can) from home depot.
 
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