FCC proposed major changes in the 700 freq

[n4voxgill]

The FCC today released its 9th report and order and has proposed three major changes:

1, The FCC would in effect take back half of all the 700 MHz frequencies that were allocated for public safety. They would take 12 MHz of 24 MHz and designate it for wideband only.

2. Only one entitity in the United States would get the license for all 12 MHz. No individual licenses for state,county or city agenies of any kind.

3. This entity would then be able to borrow money on the value of the frequeancies and can also enter into contracts with private businesses to use the broadband along with public safety. So Verizon could sign on to use the broadband equipment and resell it to their subscribers. Local governments would not have to build broadband backbone in their areas but would pay a subscriber fee to the owning agency. In the event of an emergency commercial accounts could be restricted or even cut off to meet the public safety needs.

If this passes, there will be a fight to be that one entity like we have never seen.

I also hope that they will now add the guard bands to the voice channels in that the fCC has taken half of the frequencies away. That 6 MHz will be needed in metropolitan areas.

 

[n4voxgill]

This is not a report an order but the 9th Notice of Propposed Rulemaking here is the heading

Before the
Federal Communications Commission
Washington, D.C. 20554


In the Matter ofImplementing a Nationwide, Broadband, Interoperable Public Safety Network in the 700 MHz BandDevelopment of Operational, Technical and Spectrum Requirements for Meeting Federal, State and Local Public Safety Communications Requirements Through the Year 2010 )))))))))) PS Docket No. 06-229WT Docket No. 96-86

NINTH NOTICE OF PROPOSED RULEMAKING

Adopted: December 20, 2006 Released: December 20, 2006

 

[Yokoshibu]

or dhls just takes it! j/k would be a good idea though to create a common freq for all of thier different assets

 

[n4voxgill]

i have no idea what you wrote, but they are taking 12 MHz or hundreds of frequencies.

 

[DaveNF2G]

This looks like it's based on the Cyren Call proposal for a national commercially maintained public safety network.

 

[n4voxgill]

it is certainly similar, but on a smaller scale, cyren wanted 30 MHz and this is 12, and cyren was going to raise the money. No mention of money on the fCC proposal. It is left open for some agency with visions of granduer wanting to get the nationwide license and be the big dog. This is actually more like the verizon proposal that wanted the same 12 mhz and would supliment with some of their frequencies when needed.

I can't figure out if this is a great move by he fCC or a dumb move. Just have to see how it shakes out. The biggest objection to cyren call was that the system would be controled by private company. I'm sure there will be more to come. but is looks like a move to take control away from local agencies

 

[denseglow]

would scanners still be able to track this?

 

[n4voxgill]

i doubt it, the bandwith would be to wide and you would need a program to demodulate. It would be like trying to scan wifi at a hot spot. There will be some voice, don't knnow about how that will be set up

 

[jastx]

Sounds pretty ambitious.

 

[DickH]

... The biggest objection to cyren call was that the system would be controled by private company. I'm sure there will be more to come. but is looks like a move to take control away from local agencies

Yes, and who are they responible to? The stockholders. And what is their priority? Making money. Public Safety? What's that? And who cares. Certainly not a private company.

 

[denseglow]

Hmm, if this nationwide public safety system were to happen, would we see the come back of the huge antennas on the portables, and the whips on the vehicles? One question, why so low in band? Is there benifits to this low or... thanks for the help. By the way, Would this save money?

 

[N_Jay]

Hmm, if this nationwide public safety system were to happen, would we see the come back of the huge antennas on the portables, and the whips on the vehicles? One question, why so low in band? Is there benifits to this low or... thanks for the help.

What are you talking about? It's 700 MHz!

 

[denseglow]

They would take 12 MHz of 24 MHz and designate it for wideband only.... I understand now. Oops. Hey, don't yell at me!

 

[N_Jay]

They would take 12 MHz of 24 MHz and designate it for wideband only.... I understand now. Oops. Hey, don't yell at me!

Actually, right after I posted, I figured out how you misread it.



Go get another cup of coffee!

 

[denseglow]

I just got home from work, the last thing I need is coffee.

 

[rescuecomm]

Would be like a Nextel for public safety? If one company builds and controls it, then no interop problems maybe. If the system uses a bulked up Nextel like radio that costs less than the $3000.00 digital 800 units, I say go for it.

bob

 

[N_Jay]

Would be like a Nextel for public safety? If one company builds and controls it, then no interop problems maybe. If the system uses a bulked up Nextel like radio that costs less than the $3000.00 digital 800 units, I say go for it.

bob

Its not the cost of the unit, its the cost of the service!:evil: :evil:

Lets see figure 2 to 10 times current prices to account for all the cells in non-profitable areas.
Then another 2 to 10 times to account for the public safety reliability requirements that cellular does not have nor meet.

 

[Mischief810]

Yes, and who are they responible to? The stockholders. And what is their priority? Making money. Public Safety? What's that? And who cares. Certainly not a private company.

I like private companies providing service like that. They do it right. They don't dink around with bureacracy, rules or other such nonsense. If it works and it's profitable, let'em do it.

Let me ask you this question: If the Gubmint handled cell service, would you be more or less likely to subscribe?

I don't know about you, but I like my cell phone to ring when somebody calls me...

 

[K5MAR]

Just because the government might not be the best, doesn't mean private industry would be any better. When I had Sprint, I could drive one 20 mile stretch of state turnpike here in Oklahoma and drop in and out of roaming every 2 miles. It wasn't cost effective for them to provide uninterrupted coverage.

Mark S.

 

[n4voxgill]

it can't be a cell phone company as they are all profit making corporations. It could be an organization like APCO or even a government agency. But it must be a not for profit.