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That is very curious.. why do they have access and how does that work with Industry Canada? Wonder if they use those channels for primary ops.

Indeed; this is the only case I know of for cross-border system access, but it probably
exists with Detroit/Windsor etc. As for IC, this system would not show up, so how the
licensing works...? If it is like RCC's, the system operator holds the licence.

Now that I think of it, in TAFL somewhere I found a record of something licensed to a US
gov't department, simplex UHF down by the seaway; will have to look for it.

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Very similar to Waterton National Park in Southern Alberta. Canada Parks is licensed on a channel to communicate with US Parks Service just south in Montana. It is licensed through Industry Canada.

US Parks service actually park their vehicles in Canada and take the boat ride to Goat Haunt just across the border.
 

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On the US side, the system is register to Clinton County, NY, with 11 frequencies. On the Canadian side, the system is register to Hemmigford, Quebec, with 5 frequencies, XJP 735. It is a Motorola Type II smartnet, analog.
 

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On the US side, the system is register to Clinton County, NY, with 11 frequencies. On the Canadian side, the system is register to Hemmigford, Quebec, with 5 frequencies, XJP 735. It is a Motorola Type II smartnet, analog.

The system itself is not registered under that callsign; it is the user radios (looking at the TX v. RX
frequencies). It's possible this user is somehow limited to those five frequencies, or the TAFL
database is just out of date (suspect the latter).

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To me, that just means they need to use CTCSS, but I could easily be wrong.

BTW, there is no "QPP". The provincial police force is the Sûreté du Québec; there is no official English name. SQ is commonly used by residents in the Montreal area.

Peter: You know full well that many Anglos still call the SQ the QPP. Some anglo words, meanings, place names and areas have survived the language police. I used both when I lived there till 1993.
 

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Peter: You know full well that many Anglos still call the SQ the QPP. Some anglo words, meanings, place names and areas have survived the language police. I used both when I lived there till 1993.

How many of those are under 60? Under 50?
 

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How many of those are under 60? Under 50?

I'm 44.

You grew up on the Waste Island where in some areas anyway, people's mother tongue was french.

I grew up in the Jewish guetto that was CSL, where 90% of the people's mother tongue was English.


I wonder if you still use the term "close the lights." or carticket? My daughter gets pissed at me and says that it isnt proper English to close lights, you can shut them but you cant close them.

What do all the people in Oklahoma say when they want a corbonated beverage with tons of sugar in it?
 
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I'm 44.

You grew up on the Waste Island where in some areas anyway, people's mother tongue was french.

I grew up in the Jewish guetto that was CSL, where 90% of the people's mother tongue was English.


I wonder if you still use the term "close the lights." or carticket? My daughter gets pissed at me and says that it isnt proper English to close lights, you can shut them but you cant close them.

What do all the people in Oklahoma say when they want a corbonated beverage with tons of sugar in it?

Never said close the lights and have never heard carticket. When I lived in Boston, the beverage you mention was often a tonic, believe it or not, and here, I think it's a soda.

For the record, on the street where I grew up there were approximately 3 francophone families on a street of 40 or so families. By the time I left in the mid 80s, that was more like 10-15. BIG demographic shifts took place in the 20 years I lived on that street. By the time my Mom left that neighborhood, it was no longer majority anglophone. Most things you ever thought you knew about West Island living were probably wrong.

But I still remember that Canal Ouest was 154.800 MHz ... :) And 412.6875 on double vé té!
 

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Never said close the lights and have never heard carticket. When I lived in Boston, the beverage you mention was often a tonic, believe it or not, and here, I think it's a soda.

For the record, on the street where I grew up there were approximately 3 francophone families on a street of 40 or so families. By the time I left in the mid 80s, that was more like 10-15. BIG demographic shifts took place in the 20 years I lived on that street. By the time my Mom left that neighborhood, it was no longer majority anglophone. Most things you ever thought you knew about West Island living were probably wrong.

But I still remember that Canal Ouest was 154.800 MHz ... :) And 412.6875 on double vé té!

I know a bit about the Waste Island. I wrote my thesis on language/location demographics, etc. Most of it was on perception and linguistic changes and shifts from english to french, etc. There are plenty of areas there that are and were majority anglo and majority franco, etc. Pierrefonds is probably more french than english, St.Anne de Bellville also I guess, its been a long time, maybe Baie d'rfe (sp?)

carticket is a french/english phrase for streetcar tickets, even after streetcars were phased out in the late 50's many people, incl my g-mother and parents would ask me if I was going to take the 161, 104, 162 buses and if so, did I need any car tickets?

Close the lights is a translation. In french it was fermez les lumieres. The wave of Jewish immigrants who first settled in Papineau (to the day she died, my grandmother referred to the street as an area) and other poor-working class districts picked up on how french people spoke english and took this phrase. As they moved further west, to the Main, then Westmount, Outremont, Ndg, CDN, CSL, Hampstead, then the west Island and Chomedey, etc took phrases like "close the lights" with them and to this day as I live 600 km away in a Toronto suburb thats how I tell my daughter to turn off the lights. She looks at me like I am nuts.

And we spoke before of our fondness of 154.800 "dix-douze, ten-twelve."

I imagine Oklahoma is an entirely different world Peter, where I live in Burlington Ont, there is a french school close by so there are a good many francophones, mostly french Quebecers or franco-ontario. People who are surprised that I can speak to them in joual. I also have a dog walking buddy from Dorval, an anglo who still has his particular west island lingo and accent.
 

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I wrote my thesis on language/location demographics, etc.

I'd actually be interested in reading that!

I imagine Oklahoma is an entirely different world Peter, where I live in Burlington Ont, there is a french school close by so there are a good many francophones, /QUOTE]

Funny you should mention that. A year ago, I'd have said, "Buddy, y'all ain't kiddin'."

However ...

http://newsok.com/french-language-i...normans-new-elementary-school/article/3645346
 

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They do have access to the Clinton NY county repeaters, because they have a reciprocal agreement with clinton county in ny state, such as a townof rouses point ny, if a quebec fire truck is needed to help aid a giant fire near the border, they have radio access, when the fire truck crosses through customs. And vice versa.

And yes, there has been instances where they have used it. The giant hotel fire in rouses point, comes to mind, with a quebec fire station being the closest to help out in mutual aid.

The radios are licensed to operate on the 850 mhz radio system in clinton county, FCC operation, despite the fact, they are being operated from
the canadian side, as they approach U.S. customs to get clearance to cross to the fire scene. Industry Canada lisences the radios to be used on frequency, even though the trunking system is on US ground. So basically the radios are licensed to operate in both sides of the border, by each agency. IC and FCC
 
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carticket is a french/english phrase for streetcar tickets, even after streetcars were phased out in the late 50's many people, incl my g-mother and parents would ask me if I was going to take the 161, 104, 162 buses and if so, did I need any car tickets?
I lived in CSL from 1965-1977, but left town when Rene Levesque came to power. Instead of moving west, I moved to Florida as I had dual citizenship. I graduated from Wagar High in 1969, & just had a reunion at Ruby Foo's. I remember my grandmother asking me if I needed "carfare" when I took the 162, & 105 to the Forum at Atwater & St. Catherine to see the Canadiens play the Maple Leafs.I go back every summer, & always have a special at Wilensky's. Matter of fact, my photo is on the wall there. My Dad is VE2QL. Good memories, & every person I know calls the Provincial cops the QPP to this day. 73's. GARY N4KVE
 
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