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Yeah they sent me HIS tracking info. by mistake. Showed delivered in Boone NC. I got mine the next day. I like his videos.
That's funny
He made it look so good i'm about ready to buy one!!

He did a range test video on a Tram 3500 CB antenna and a 4 watt President McKinley radio, 7 or 8 years ago that got 18 miles ... I was so impressed I had to buy one .. love it,... his review and range test was something I could believe ... One of the more helpful reviewers on YouTube.
 

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I REALLY wish someone would show the wattage....
If he wouldn’t ignore people he’d know the answer already. I posted the 3 power settings already. Low = 2w dead key, Med = 4w dead key, Hi = 6w dead key. SSB PEP is 14-15w on Hi power. Tested with a MFJ-040E meter. Also Panic Attack had similar results and posted video reviews and teardown photos on Facebook. Plenty of info and videos out there for the 310SDR. Just have to look.
 

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if they can make a SSB radio that small, it wouldn't be that much more work to fit it all in a handheld casing.

I dreamed of building one this morning.....
if I could take that little radio cut the circuit board in half .. I would try to put it in a TRC 216 radio style case ...the TRC 216 case is 3.50" wide .2.25" deep and 9.25" tall not a real comfortable handheld case... but I think it could all easily fit

I think I could use the actual display as it doesn't look wider then 3 inches?
I think I could mount the knob on the top of the case and all the push buttons on the front.... so just one knob on top
I would put a TNC connector instead of a BNC connector on top as the BNC antenna's wear out very quickly and wobble and don't make a good connection then I would include a 51 inch telescoping tall HYS TNC antenna and a TNC rubber duck antenna from a President Randy
both are about the best available

if there is room in the case I would have a threaded hole on top that either the 9 inch rubber duck or the 9 inch telescoping antenna could slide into with a screw on plastic tube top... think of a cigar tube .... maybe 1 inch tall ..... this way you can carry the radio and use the rubber duck around the neighborhood for a couple miles ... or unscrew the 1 inch water proof cigar tube top and shake out the telescoping antenna and then put the rubber duck antenna in the hole and screw the top back on.... this way you carry one radio and always have either antenna

I think the battery usage would be the hardest part to over come... if I used 9 alkaline batteries 1.5 volts X 9 = 13.50 volts with two dummy batteries
or I could use 11 rechargeable batteries 1.2 volts X 11 = 13.20 volts
I don't think it would transmit the SSB 15 watts on those batteries... if it did it would only last a few minutes.... even on low power I don't think it could transmit on SSB for very long.... I would have to try to limit the SSB down to 2 watts like the Cherokee did when they made a SSB radio.... but I would try to get the most watts I could that would let it transmit for 90 minutes or so

I would include a cigarette lighter cord that would power it ... the cord would have an adapter just like the Cobra HH50 so it could be plugged into the power jack or the recharging jack on the side of the radio....so it could recharge those 11 rechargeable batteries cord that can power or recharge ( two plugs ) .... I would also include a 120 volt wall plug adapter wall plug to cigarette plug adapter
so now that one cord can wall charge the batteries........ wall power the radio.... or power it from a vehicle or charge the batteries from the vehicle ( those NI-MH 1.2 volt rechargeable batteries take 14 to 16 hours to recharge..... so vehicle recharging would not be smart)

so this would be the ultimate handheld SSB AM /FM radio... I'll call it the Steve G. 1

if I had some skill ( and $20,000 ) I'd make this happen ... but I'm sure Luiton would find out I stole their product and installed it into a handheld case and I'd be sued... but I would think it won't be long before SOMEONE does this!!!!
 

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if they can make a SSB radio that small, it wouldn't be that much more work to fit it all in a handheld casing.

I dreamed of building one this morning.....
if I could take that little radio cut the circuit board in half .. I would try to put it in a TRC 216 radio style case ...the TRC 216 case is 3.50" wide .2.25" deep and 9.25" tall not a real comfortable handheld case... but I think it could all easily fit

I think I could use the actual display as it doesn't look wider then 3 inches?
I think I could mount the knob on the top of the case and all the push buttons on the front.... so just one knob on top
I would put a TNC connector instead of a BNC connector on top as the BNC antenna's wear out very quickly and wobble and don't make a good connection then I would include a 51 inch telescoping tall HYS TNC antenna and a TNC rubber duck antenna from a President Randy
both are about the best available

if there is room in the case I would have a threaded hole on top that either the 9 inch rubber duck or the 9 inch telescoping antenna could slide into with a screw on plastic tube top... think of a cigar tube .... maybe 1 inch tall ..... this way you can carry the radio and use the rubber duck around the neighborhood for a couple miles ... or unscrew the 1 inch water proof cigar tube top and shake out the telescoping antenna and then put the rubber duck antenna in the hole and screw the top back on.... this way you carry one radio and always have either antenna

I think the battery usage would be the hardest part to over come... if I used 9 alkaline batteries 1.5 volts X 9 = 13.50 volts with two dummy batteries
or I could use 11 rechargeable batteries 1.2 volts X 11 = 13.20 volts
I don't think it would transmit the SSB 15 watts on those batteries... if it did it would only last a few minutes.... even on low power I don't think it could transmit on SSB for very long.... I would have to try to limit the SSB down to 2 watts like the Cherokee did when they made a SSB radio.... but I would try to get the most watts I could that would let it transmit for 90 minutes or so

I would include a cigarette lighter cord that would power it ... the cord would have an adapter just like the Cobra HH50 so it could be plugged into the power jack or the recharging jack on the side of the radio....so it could recharge those 11 rechargeable batteries cord that can power or recharge ( two plugs ) .... I would also include a 120 volt wall plug adapter wall plug to cigarette plug adapter
so now that one cord can wall charge the batteries........ wall power the radio.... or power it from a vehicle or charge the batteries from the vehicle ( those NI-MH 1.2 volt rechargeable batteries take 14 to 16 hours to recharge..... so vehicle recharging would not be smart)

so this would be the ultimate handheld SSB AM /FM radio... I'll call it the Steve G. 1

if I had some skill ( and $20,000 ) I'd make this happen ... but I'm sure Luiton would find out I stole their product and installed it into a handheld case and I'd be sued... but I would think it won't be long before SOMEONE does this!!!!
I agree 👍
The other problem is the hig cost. I think be lot more sideband users . The FM on Amazon and Walmart has some under $50.00. So FM i can see growing .

The cheapest sideband that would trust was over $200.00.
Most CBers do not have the budget.
I purchased one in the 1980’s and it was stolen it cost me over $200.0 in 1980’s.

Dave
 

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if they can make a SSB radio that small, it wouldn't be that much more work to fit it all in a handheld casing.

I dreamed of building one this morning.....
if I could take that little radio cut the circuit board in half .. I would try to put it in a TRC 216 radio style case ...the TRC 216 case is 3.50" wide .2.25" deep and 9.25" tall not a real comfortable handheld case... but I think it could all easily fit

I think I could use the actual display as it doesn't look wider then 3 inches?
I think I could mount the knob on the top of the case and all the push buttons on the front.... so just one knob on top
I would put a TNC connector instead of a BNC connector on top as the BNC antenna's wear out very quickly and wobble and don't make a good connection then I would include a 51 inch telescoping tall HYS TNC antenna and a TNC rubber duck antenna from a President Randy
both are about the best available

if there is room in the case I would have a threaded hole on top that either the 9 inch rubber duck or the 9 inch telescoping antenna could slide into with a screw on plastic tube top... think of a cigar tube .... maybe 1 inch tall ..... this way you can carry the radio and use the rubber duck around the neighborhood for a couple miles ... or unscrew the 1 inch water proof cigar tube top and shake out the telescoping antenna and then put the rubber duck antenna in the hole and screw the top back on.... this way you carry one radio and always have either antenna

I think the battery usage would be the hardest part to over come... if I used 9 alkaline batteries 1.5 volts X 9 = 13.50 volts with two dummy batteries
or I could use 11 rechargeable batteries 1.2 volts X 11 = 13.20 volts
I don't think it would transmit the SSB 15 watts on those batteries... if it did it would only last a few minutes.... even on low power I don't think it could transmit on SSB for very long.... I would have to try to limit the SSB down to 2 watts like the Cherokee did when they made a SSB radio.... but I would try to get the most watts I could that would let it transmit for 90 minutes or so

I would include a cigarette lighter cord that would power it ... the cord would have an adapter just like the Cobra HH50 so it could be plugged into the power jack or the recharging jack on the side of the radio....so it could recharge those 11 rechargeable batteries cord that can power or recharge ( two plugs ) .... I would also include a 120 volt wall plug adapter wall plug to cigarette plug adapter
so now that one cord can wall charge the batteries........ wall power the radio.... or power it from a vehicle or charge the batteries from the vehicle ( those NI-MH 1.2 volt rechargeable batteries take 14 to 16 hours to recharge..... so vehicle recharging would not be smart)

so this would be the ultimate handheld SSB AM /FM radio... I'll call it the Steve G. 1

if I had some skill ( and $20,000 ) I'd make this happen ... but I'm sure Luiton would find out I stole their product and installed it into a handheld case and I'd be sued... but I would think it won't be long before SOMEONE does this!!!!
Cherokee made a am/SSB handheld years ago. Mine worked great until it died.
 

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They were only 2 watts on SSB ... I always wondered if 2 watts would be enough for SSB to work effectively
The Cherokee was 6 watts SSB and FM. About 1.5w carrier and 6w peak on AM. I had a couple and they work great. Using a 5ft telescoping whip on the radio I got about 70mi groundwave from a 550ft hill to a base station on CB SSB and on 10m amateur using the same antenna I got from a parking lot in Long Beach, CA to the UK.

My new replacement for all other CB/10m walki-talkies is this. 10watts output, 1 to 56MHz, AM/FM/SSB/digital modes, 7AH battery (six 18650s), built in wide range auto antenna tuner, DSP noise reduction and more.

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The Cherokee was 6 watts SSB and FM. about 1.5w carrier and 6w peak on AM. I had a couple and they work great. Using a 5ft telescoping whip on the radio I got about 70mi groundwave from a 550ft hill to a base station on CB SSB and on 10m amateur using the same antenna I got from a parking lot in Long Beach, CA to the UK.

My replacement for all other CB/10m walki-talkies is this. 10watts output, 1 to 56MHz, AM/FM/SSB/digital modes, 7AH battery (six 18650s), built in wide range auto antenna tuner, DSP noise reduction and more.

View attachment 201742
I had to look up the Cherokee... On low it was 2 watts ssb and 6-7 watts in high!!!
I always thought it was only two watts .. thanks for letting me know.

That's quite the review on it ... If someone ever makes one like it, I'll have to get one....
Well if the price is within reason... I wouldn't pay $299.99 for a SSB handheld .. it just wouldn't be used enough to warrant the cost...
For $199.99, yes it be be really cool to play with from time to time.

Where did you find a 60 inch whip for it?? The biggest I've seen in the last 5 years is the HYS 51 inch BNC telescoping antenna.
 

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I had to look up the Cherokee... On low it was 2 watts ssb and 6-7 watts in high!!!
I always thought it was only two watts .. thanks for letting me know.

That's quite the review on it ... If someone ever makes one like it, I'll have to get one....
Well if the price is within reason... I wouldn't pay $299.99 for a SSB handheld .. it just wouldn't be used enough to warrant the cost...
For $199.99, yes it be be really cool to play with from time to time.

Where did you find a 60 inch whip for it?? The biggest I've seen in the last 5 years is the HYS 51 inch BNC telescoping antenna.
I have several and they may only be about 4ft tall. One is a Maldol with 10m coil, one from a guy in Thailand and the other might have been made for Cobra radios.
 

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They were only 2 watts on SSB ... I always wondered if 2 watts would be enough for SSB to work effectively
Had a long whip on mine. Talked from Minnesota to Alaska on SSB one night. Skip was good that evening. This might work for you. Under $100 bucks. Will be testing mine out on my camping trip.
 

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Had a long whip on mine. Talked from Minnesota to Alaska on SSB one night. Skip was good that evening. This might work for you. Under $100 bucks. Will be testing mine out on my camping trip.


Will need two packs of smokes, a full thermos and a box lunch at over 300-posts:


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Had a long whip on mine. Talked from Minnesota to Alaska on SSB one night. Skip was good that evening. This might work for you. Under $100 bucks. Will be testing mine out on my camping trip.
The Radtel is FM only on CB. Otherwise it would be a bargain.
 

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As a mini radio the Randy works more than well enough in its backup or walkabout roles for my use.

For a mobile the antenna & power systems aren’t going to differ from that used for other radios.

Mini will need a KL203 to be viable in any event.

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Gear at that level is impressive.


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The TX500MP packs all the wanted features in one box and you only need an antenna. Most other small radios need a tuner or a separate battery pack. And you don't want to operate or leave any other radio out in the rain or snow where its not a problem with the TX500MP. I was using it a the Dayton Hamster Vention last week in the driving rain and it was just fine. I wouldn't do that with a Cherokee or any other HF/CB I can think of.
 

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The Cherokee was 6 watts SSB and FM. About 1.5w carrier and 6w peak on AM. I had a couple and they work great. Using a 5ft telescoping whip on the radio I got about 70mi groundwave from a 550ft hill to a base station on CB SSB and on 10m amateur using the same antenna I got from a parking lot in Long Beach, CA to the UK.

My new replacement for all other CB/10m walki-talkies is this. 10watts output, 1 to 56MHz, AM/FM/SSB/digital modes, 7AH battery (six 18650s), built in wide range auto antenna tuner, DSP noise reduction and more.

View attachment 201742
Nice looking radio

Dave
 
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