First scanner purchase for L.A. area

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As someone who utilizes on-line forums quite frequently searching out technical assistance for all manner of subjects and hobbies, I just wanted to start off by commending the RadioReference community for being one of the most friendly and helpful forums I've run across. I haven't been lurking here long, but I'm very impressed by the eagerness with which established members will offer advice and assistance to newbs like myself.

With that sincere appreciation expressed, I'm contemplating the purchase of my first scanner. My intended use is simply to be able to monitor as many of the police tactical and fire frequencies as are possible for my local agencies. Not surprisingly, I would like this first unit to be a handheld model. At present, I have been looking at the Uniden Bearcat BCD436HP and the Whistler WS1080.

I don't typically go in for the most sophisticated hardware right off the bat when entering into a new hobby, but based on the small amount of research I've done thus far on my own, I don't know if I'll have much of a choice in this instance. My situation is complicated by at least two primary factors that I'm aware. The first and foremost is that I live in the South Bay area of Los Angeles county. Needless to say, we're talking about myriad jurisdictions all right on top of one another, countless tactical frequencies, multiple bands, digital networks, trunked systems and many other complications of which I have some awareness, but very little real understanding. It all just seems to boil down to the fact that an entry level scanner isn't going to be able to access the most important transmissions in my area.

A second hindrance is that all my computers are Mac based and I'm far from being a computer programming genius. AFAIK, the programming software that comes with these models is Windows only and will therefor be largely useless to me. So the biggest question then becomes, is the loss in functionality that results from being unable to connect either of these scanners to my computers so great that it isn't even worth proceeding any further? I would imagine being able to do firmware, software and frequency database updates is rather important.

In my research, I have seen some posts and blog entries from recent years that outline various work arounds that try to make the software Mac compatible, but they've all seemed pretty sketchy with a lot of heavy disclaimers. Numerous reports of SD cards being corrupted and radios being bricked make me leery of attempting something like that as a novice.

Anyway, I'll just throw all that out there and gladly accept any advice or observations you kind folk might be willing to offer.
 

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Major,

I have a BCD436 and only had a few problems but have been somewhat corrected. One was that the batteries didn't fully charge so I purchased different ones from Amazon. I didn't have a problem with the SD card but I bought a larger capacity one anyway so I could record more.

As for programming, the database comes preloaded on the SD card but you will definitely need a PC to update it. You can use any computer such as a friend or family member if they are willing. Sentinel software is free and can be downloaded as many times as you want to any computer. Even if you use different computers each time, you can copy the scanner data to the computer, manipulate it as you wish then export it back to the scanner.

You can also download a PC emulator for your Mac. I've heard that they work pretty good so you might want to give it a try. I only have PC's so I cannot attest to that.

I've also read that the WS1080 is a good radio and they both have the same concept, you'll need a PC or emulator.

Good luck with whichever scanner you decide to buy.
 

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I also recommend the SCMA as a good source. I was there last week showing and comparing my BCD536HP with my WS1095.
Major Infidel: You have it exactly right. You don't have much of a choice. You need a good quality digital trunking scanner with P25 phase 2 capability if you are going to experience the gamut and richness of what there is to scan here in Los Angeles, including Ventura, Orange, and San Bernardino County, all which can be monitored to some extent depending on your antennas.
Buying anything else but a high quality digital trunking scanner is pretty useless for Los Angeles, unless someone really just wants to monitor a few basic conventional analog channels. Welcome to the scanner hobby. There are a lot of good scanners now available.
I personally think the 436HP and 536HP are the best, but they, like all other scanners, are not perfect. For a first-time poster, you seem to understand well that an entry level scanner will not cut it here in Southern California, and for that matter, in most larger regions around the country.
Good luck and keep us posted on how things go.
 

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For a first scanner it is always good to go with a handheld. I have used all of the digital scanners from the Pro-96 to the PSR-800 the Uniden 396 to the BCD436HP and all their base/mobile versions too. All of them have worked good in the L.A., Orange County, and San Bernardino areas. Get at least two more sets of rechargeable batteries and an external charger. It's always good to have one set charging and another set you can use. The one down side to the 436 is the screen. Without the backlight on it is hard to read. A side not once you get one scanner, you will get more. It happened to all of us.
 

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Thanks for all the outstanding advice and recommendations, gents. It's very much appreciated.

Unless I'm willing to trade in my car for a Motorola APX 8000 ;) , it sounds like I won't likely go wrong with either the BCD436 or the WS1080. I hope I'm not treading into Ford vs Chevy, or 9mm vs .45 ACP territory here, but if there were one or two points of distinction between them that would be significant to a newb, I'd love to hear about it.

And I'll definitely look into the SCMA. It sounds like a great resource. :)
 

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Of course I am joking. Just look at the number of scanners I have listed in my signature. If anything, I have the dreaded IBS (I buy scanners) disease that has been discussed on other threads. Only cure is to buy another scanner. My only consolation is knowing that many others on the Radio Reference Forums have the same disease. Maybe we should start "Scanners Anonymous." If there was one for spouses of scanner addicts, my wife would be the first to join.
 

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Of course I am joking. Just look at the number of scanners I have listed in my signature. If anything, I have the dreaded IBS (I buy scanners) disease that has been discussed on other threads. Only cure is to buy another scanner. My only consolation is knowing that many others on the Radio Reference Forums have the same disease. Maybe we should start "Scanners Anonymous." If there was one for spouses of scanner addicts, my wife would be the first to join.

:D

I know well of the phenomenon of which you gentlemen speak. I innocently enough got interested in LED flashlights and custom cutlery about 15 years ago. Now the house is littered with all manner of lights, folders and fixed blades. I'll try to exhibit a bit more self control with this new radio hobby, but we'll just have to see how that goes. ;)
 
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