K4EET
Chaplain
I did not know that. I wonder why Yaesu did that?
Yaesu: FT-710: Question Concerning Using the CW Monitor w/out Transmitting
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That, you'd have to ask them about. I'm frankly not sure, I know there were complaints thru out the years about it not going lower than 5 watts in some cases. For me, I'm only using it to try and get my CW speed back up after a long long vacation from CW so I just use the break in to off and it won't transmit. I'd have to go to my son's to check, but honestly if I remember it's the same on a 1000D he has of mine. (been a few years).
MikeinDestin
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You're correct about turning off the break in function. It's like "vox off." You don't have to use TX inhibit with break in off. TX inhibit is for not accidentally transmitting with no antenna connected. It has nothing to do with out of band transmission. It's worth trying TX inhibit to see if it will work with sidetone. Most modern rigs except QRP rigs won't go below 5 watts output.
K4EET
Chaplain
Thanks for the info!
That makes more sense, as I had read somewhere that you had to have break in turned on to trigger the transmitter. TX inhibit to prevent accidental transmission sounds like a reasonable function, especially for guys like me who will only use their radio as a receiver. Having that function as an out of band inhibiter makes no sense, since it would be very easily turned off if anyone wanted to "fool around and find out!"
Oh and, before I forget, thank you for clearing that up for me!
Yes exactly. Like I said I cannot and have not commented on what the TX inhibit does, I don't have that radio. I've never had one that I know of with that setting and to me, it sounds well, silly. if you don't want to transmit, don't key up the mic. Several of us have used the "break in function" off for years and years even dating back to the 1000D. Also, this works on other brands of radios too, "most all" that have a built in keyer. in the 90's I did it on an Icom 706 while trying to get my speed up enough to pass the 5 WPM test for what was then the tech plus license. Man we thought we were kings getting CW privileges on some of the HF bands.
Anyway I am still trying to get my speed back up, between a LONG stint of not using CW (hate I did that by the way) and an OLD mind, not quite ready to use it much yet. A friend and I are sending back and forth some on 6 meters (locally) and it's helping both of us in that area. I plan to get my HF wire back up when the weather is a little better here, not sure where you're at but when I do if you want to do some over the air stuff and can put up with me going a little slower, let me know. Good luck, and if you start it, use it. I hate I ever stopped.
MikeinDestin
Member
Modern rigs (not all ht's) as they come factory programmed will not transmit "out of band." That would only happen if the rig has been modified to do that.
Unfortunately, my QTH doesn't permit antennas outside, and I'm not really too keen on radiating inside the apartment, so while I won't be an SK as we all know it, I'll instead be an NFK (non-functioning key). But thanks for the kind invite, anyway! And, since turning off "BREAK IN" seems to be a pretty standard practice going back many years, I'll give it a go. However, I'll still leave "TX INHIBIT" set to "YES," just to be on the safe side! I may even break out the dummy load, just to be doubly safe. Hi hi!
This seems like a no-brainer to me. Stop worrying about TX INHIBIT. Connect the radio's RF output to a dummy load and practice CW to your heart's content.
Hello, again. Did my last reply seem snarky to you in any way? Because, if it did, I want you to know that I was being sincere. I meant absolutely no offense, and if I did offend you by that reply, please accept my humble apologies.
UH, no, didn't take it that way at all! Your posts have been great. No apologies needed at all. Heck we're having a great exchange here!
. 73.Okay, thanks. I appreciate your making that clear.UH, no, didn't take it that way at all! Your posts have been great. No apologies needed at all. Heck we're having a great exchange here!
MikeinDestin
Member
I just realized my FT-857D has a built in code practice feature. In a menu selection, it will send random code groups which are customizable. Don't know if other brands have that. Check your manual.
That is one very good feature! I'll have to look, however I don't hold out much hope seeing as it's a "budget" radio, and all!
You know depending on your location, I know you're worried about transmitting on an inside antenna but you could rig up a wire and listen to various W1AW code practice sessions when you get a little further along. They really helped me some years ago and I'm starting to listen them again. You can find the schedule and what frequencies they're on and perhaps catch a couple of them. Just a thought.
k6cpo
Member
My older iCom has a "monitor" function that allows you hear what the radio is doing. This is helpful in voice to give you some feedback if you're using headphones. It can also be used for using the radio as a code practice oscillator. All have to do is turn on the monitor, place the radio in CW mode and go to it. And it works with both a straight key and using the internal keyer with a set of paddles.
Interesting, I've never had to turn monitor on to hear the cw side tones when transmitting. Including the Icom 706.
Gives a rough idea in voice modes where the audio is set though.