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In 2017 got TG 16,32,64,80,96,112,128,304,320,336,64176,64208
I have recorded everything heard on it since 2015 or 2016 til now so if they are gone, got some audio examples for the world.
Hams and Disney Security. (Hide your radios?)
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In 2017 got TG 16,32,64,80,96,112,128,304,320,336,64176,64208
I have recorded everything heard on it since 2015 or 2016 til now so if they are gone, got some audio examples for the world.
n1das
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I will still have personal communications with friends and family, no matter what. Another option is PTT over cellular (PTToC) apps on our smartphones. My wife and I use AT&T EPTT on our Sonim XP8 Ruggedized smartphones when out of local simplex range on our DTR radios. We also use Zello to talk with friends who aren't AT&T subscribers.
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A pair of old NEXTEL phones as someone posted earlier would work in Direct Talk (DT) mode for local simplex ops. They shouldn't attract attention since they are cell phones (technically no they aren't since they operated under Part 90). My wife (G/F at the time) and I used to have a pair of Motorola i355 iDEN phones on NEXTEL back in the day when NEXTEL was popular. We used the off-network DT mode when we were close enough to each other but one or both of us was out of network coverage. DT worked great for that. Note that DT mode is FHSS simplex from phone to phone on 902-928 MHz and is not to be confused with NEXTEL DirectConnect (DC) mode which used the NEXTEL iDEN network. That's when I first discovered the legacy DTR radios (DTR410/550/650 models). The DTRs use the same FHSS system as DT mode but were coded differently (supposedly on purpose). Transmit power with the i355 in DT mode was 890mW (+29.5dBm), same as the legacy DTRs. The legacy DTRs were a spinoff from DT mode and shared a common design with an iDEN handset (i325is?). The DTRs are the modern version of Motorola's MOTO Talk.
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One little gotcha to be aware of when using an old iDEN handset in DT mode is that it needs to have a SIM card installed that was previously activated on an iDEN network such as NEXTEL. The 1 + Area Code & Phone Number that was assigned to the phone when it was activated is used to form the 11-digit Private ID for the DT feature to work. If you happen to acquire old iDEN handsets with DT capability, make sure they include a previously activated SIM card.
Factory fresh new batteries are still available for the i355 and other models that used the same battery. The legacy DTRs use the same battery and is still readily available. I recently replaced the high capacity batteries in my legacy DTR650 fleet with factory fresh high capacity batteries.
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A pair of old NEXTEL phones as someone posted earlier would work in Direct Talk (DT) mode for local simplex ops. They shouldn't attract attention since they are cell phones (technically no they aren't since they operated under Part 90). My wife (G/F at the time) and I used to have a pair of Motorola i355 iDEN phones on NEXTEL back in the day when NEXTEL was popular. We used the off-network DT mode when we were close enough to each other but one or both of us was out of network coverage. DT worked great for that. Note that DT mode is FHSS simplex from phone to phone on 902-928 MHz and is not to be confused with NEXTEL DirectConnect (DC) mode which used the NEXTEL iDEN network. That's when I first discovered the legacy DTR radios (DTR410/550/650 models). The DTRs use the same FHSS system as DT mode but were coded differently (supposedly on purpose). Transmit power with the i355 in DT mode was 890mW (+29.5dBm), same as the legacy DTRs. The legacy DTRs were a spinoff from DT mode and shared a common design with an iDEN handset (i325is?). The DTRs are the modern version of Motorola's MOTO Talk.
MOTO Talk - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
One little gotcha to be aware of when using an old iDEN handset in DT mode is that it needs to have a SIM card installed that was previously activated on an iDEN network such as NEXTEL. The 1 + Area Code & Phone Number that was assigned to the phone when it was activated is used to form the 11-digit Private ID for the DT feature to work. If you happen to acquire old iDEN handsets with DT capability, make sure they include a previously activated SIM card.
Factory fresh new batteries are still available for the i355 and other models that used the same battery. The legacy DTRs use the same battery and is still readily available. I recently replaced the high capacity batteries in my legacy DTR650 fleet with factory fresh high capacity batteries.
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I'm surprised; at the time it happened I mentioned it to a few hams and one in particular wanted details in order to file a lawsuit. He claimed he (or his group) had successfully won such cases in the past. Although this was about 40 years ago--who knows what's changed since then!
N4KVE
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But yet the Cruise ships will gladly sell you FRS radios to use on the ship. Or they want to sell you an expensive cell data plan to use on the ship. Years ago, when Disney used UHF radios for the different functions my friends & I would listen to them. We used the very small Standard C508A which was nicknamed the “tiny”. Never had a problem. The problem is when people show up with radios nicer, & larger than what the staff carries.
mmckenna
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FCC rules apply to radio. Private property rules are different. Disney also has rules about carrying firearms into the park, and I'm sure that there are those that would claim it's an infringement on their second amendment. Easy solution: Don't go to Disney.
MTS2000des
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anyone can sue for any absurd reason, including some pompous ham guy who thinks his ham radio license is a badge and trumps' a private property owner's exclusive right to allow/disallow what item(s) may be brought onto their premises.
I encourage all hams, please don't be that guy. It doesn't bode well for ham radio at large and only serves to make oneself' looks like a horses rear end in the eyes of the public. Not to mention, a company like Disney has attorneys on retainer/staff and when Joe Blow Ham Hero loses his case, he will get to pay Disney their legal fees.
I think you are seriously misinformed about the basis and purpose of what exactly an amateur radio license is.
It is permission to transmit radio signals in the amateur radio service, per the amateur radio service rules as codified in the CFR.
Nowhere that I am aware of in such CFR is it stated that one may operate wherever they want to on the private property of others without their permission.
I'll give you the Pepsi challenge. Come to my home and throw your ham ticket down and say you can operate here and give me the middle finger when I tell you to leave my property and pound sand. I'll let you guess which one of us leaves in handcuffs. Then you can educate a state court judge and toss your ham radio ticket around like a "get out of jail free" card and we'll see how that works out for you. Then you can come here and report your experience.
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I live in NV. Same thing applies to most casinos here in Reno. Video surveillance is everywhere and using a radio around active pit games (Craps, 21, poker etc.) can earn you a chat with Casino Security, especially in the larger clubs. Copping an attitude will usually get you escorted/banned from the premises and may even get LE involved if casino management thinks it necessary.
In addition, all this kind of behavior does is make us (hams, hobbyists, etc.) look bad to the Muggles.
When in doubt, applying The Golden Rule and plain ol' Common Sense will save yer bacon most every time!
"I think you are seriously misinformed about the basis and purpose of what exactly an amateur radio license is."
I think we got a bit off-topic here. The original comment was about where a person can operate ham radio. This is determined by the FCC (at least the last time I checked).
I think we got a bit off-topic here. The original comment was about where a person can operate ham radio. This is determined by the FCC (at least the last time I checked).
MTS2000des
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You're being narrow with your view. The FCC regulates radio communications. That's it. It has ZERO authority over what a private business/persons/entity can allow/not allow on THEIR property. Ever heard the phrase "a man's home is his castle"? This applies here. PRIVATE property owners have every legal right to ban the use of anything on THEIR property they wish. If one doesn't concur, don't go there.
Again, your choosing to be obtuse to the fact that FCC rules have no bearing on whether or not Disney, or any private entity, can legally allow/not allow possession and use of HAM radios (or any radios for that matter) within their property confines. Everyone else knows this as common sense but you apparently.
Feel free to send Laura Smith an email and waste her time but I am 99.9 percent sure she will tell you exactly what I and others have stated here.
So armed with my FCC licence, I can show up at your front door and demand that I be let in to use my radio?
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Sure, but don’t expect to be let in.
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I think the correct way to say it is the FCC determines how you can operate ham radio. Location of operation is not their jurisdiction.
Not quite sure why many people claiming that their "rights are being violated" don't recognize that "my house, house, my rules" as just as valid. If a company/site/cruise ship elects to ban certain devices or behavior, it's their prerogative. If I don't like it, I can certainly exercise my right to not attend. All that being said, I've brought HTs in to Disneyland a number of times without an problems or even questions regarding my equipment. A good rule of thumb is don't be a lid and annoy others with your radio and you'll likely never have a problem.
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Wow, I cant believe this. People think that they can do what they want on private property because of a license? So then what about all of the instances of where and where not you can carry a gun with a CCW, especially, the right of private premises to deny you entry? It is private property, meaning it is owned by a person and not the government/state, meaning that person has full authority to tell you what you can or cannot do there. My property, is my "jurisdiction", as is Disneys. That doesnt mean you can break laws, but it doesnt mean you have to recognize any type of licenses or anything period that you dont like (not even the police! they need a warrant, unless given permission - key word)
mmckenna
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Yep. I have a drivers license, it permits me to drive a vehicle. Based off flawed logic, that now means I can come spin donuts on your front lawn. I may decide, later, to park my camper in your backyard.
Was that your camper I sold? I used the money to fix the front lawn.
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