DSDPlus Having trouble monitoring a local DMR system

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ArktiiK

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I'm still learning DSDPlus and this whole SDR thing in general, so there's that out of the way.

I have a local system near me (about a mile away) with absolutely no information in the DB. The only data I've been able to gather is from querying FCC info, which you can see in the images I've attached. Kept it minimal in an attempt to not give away too much, however I think all the necessary information is there. For discussion's sake, we'll call the site "LocalSite".

What I know:
Protocol - DMR, judging by emission code
Encrypted - Not sure (how could I tell?)

An explanation of the attachments:
FreqList - 18 frequencies, querying FRN
FreqList2 - 6 frequencies, querying call sign (18 vs. 6?)
Locations - Not sure if this is even relevant, but locations 5 & 6 are the LocalSite

Perhaps I'm not fully understanding some fundamentals here. I have multiple RTL-SDR dongles and I've attempted various ways of doing this; using the standard method (1R), creating a custom batch file for utilizing 2 SDRs, using scan mode with information from digitalfrequencysearch, and I am just simply stumped.

All that being said, I suppose my main question is: Based on the information in the attachments, what do I need to do to start monitoring this site?

If I am missing any information, please let me know so that I may provide it if possible.
 

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If you want to listen to 5 and 6 only, park it on 453.5125. The 458 freqs are the repeater input, or subscriber TX. The 453 freqs on the mobile side would be talkaround simplex. I believe the analog emission is for repeater ID, or analog voice channel. Have you tried regular FM on those freqs? Do you have a DMR xcvr? My dmr xcvr will ignore cc, ts, and decode any talkgroup if not e.
 

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You give a bunch of FCC info but nothing about what you have done with DSDPlus and what version of DSDPlus? Free or FastLane?
If you run FMP24, you should see activity in the window. Click on the active channel. What you see for a spike may indicate what kind of system you are dealing with. A constant spike (24/7) indicates trunking with a control channel. Intermittent spikes may indicate XPT or Cap Plus.
With FMP24 and DSDPlus running, you should see the mode and type appear. If there is voice traffic, it should populate in the CHannel Activity window and show in the Event Log.

Use a simple batch file to start each FMP24 & DSDPlus. Many of the common options are the default and don't need to be added in a test setup. You can customize it later.
FMP24 -o20001
DSDPlus -i20001

You should have the Help files for each program. This shows all the options. I create a text file for reference by running each of these in a command line or create and run a batch file:
FMP24 -h >FMP24_Help.txt
DSDPlus -h >DSDPlus_Help.txt
 

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If you want to listen to 5 and 6 only, park it on 453.5125. The 458 freqs are the repeater input, or subscriber TX. The 453 freqs on the mobile side would be talkaround simplex. I believe the analog emission is for repeater ID, or analog voice channel. Have you tried regular FM on those freqs? Do you have a DMR xcvr? My dmr xcvr will ignore cc, ts, and decode any talkgroup if not e.
I do not have a DMR xcvr. This is just RTL-SDR. As for FM, no, but I most definitely can try.

You give a bunch of FCC info but nothing about what you have done with DSDPlus and what version of DSDPlus? Free or FastLane?
If you run FMP24, you should see activity in the window. Click on the active channel. What you see for a spike may indicate what kind of system you are dealing with. A constant spike (24/7) indicates trunking with a control channel. Intermittent spikes may indicate XPT or Cap Plus.
With FMP24 and DSDPlus running, you should see the mode and type appear. If there is voice traffic, it should populate in the CHannel Activity window and show in the Event Log.

Use a simple batch file to start each FMP24 & DSDPlus. Many of the common options are the default and don't need to be added in a test setup. You can customize it later.
FMP24 -o20001
DSDPlus -i20001

You should have the Help files for each program. This shows all the options. I create a text file for reference by running each of these in a command line or create and run a batch file:
FMP24 -h >FMP24_Help.txt
DSDPlus -h >DSDPlus_Help.txt
Apologies, but I had butchered my batch files and DSDPlus files and don't even remember half the things I tried, so I'm needing to start fresh (it's certainly a learning experience.) As for creating the help files, I seem to be unable to. When running those commands in command prompt or via a batch script, it slowly outputs the help data line by line, but never actually creates the txt file.
 

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In the help files, where you see an option with [ ] at the end, that is the default and you don't need to add it to a batch file. You can but not needed.

Run FMP24 using the simple line I posted before. Batch file or command line, doesn't matter. I use batch files and simply edit them to add or change my favorite setups.

If it is running fine, you should see a window with various signals. With that window selected, simply type a frequency and hit enter. You can also click on a spike with your mouse.
Next start DSDPlus. It should show connected to FMPx as the last line in startup.

It should automatically start decoding.
 
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