Help on what this traffic could be?

[AngWay]

I have this frequency i found and i can't find it on RR or FCC database, The frequency is 460.6750 it's DMR i'm located in Buchanan County Virginia. It sounds like a utilities company either power company or TV company or something like that i'm getting a strong signal so i think it should be close. I'll add a screenshot of DSDPlus showing what the frequency says and everything, Also added is audio recordings of the traffic. DSDPlus says it's "PARKS BELK BRISTOL MALL AT 500 GATE CITY HWY/BRISTOL 20K0F3E 46.9m 189 deg VA". But i don't think it's a mall lol. and the emissions designator 20K0F3E says it's "Frequency modulated (FM) analog voice, 5 kHz deviation; "wideband 25 kHz" (FM mode in RadioReference.com Database). But i know it's DMR even when i listen to the frequency on my BCD436HP i have to program it as DMR. Also DSDPlus says it's TIIIStd [Auto] Site:L1-5.6 DCC:0 NL:2.1 2.2 2.4 2.7 3.2 3.8 4.2 4.6 4.8 5.1 6.2 6.3 6.8 8.3. Anyway's thanks alot.

Here is the event log.
Freq=460.675000 Current network: L1
Freq=460.675000 Current site: L1-5.6
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 No data for current site found in DSDPlus.frequencies file
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-5.1
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-6.3
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-6.8
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-8.3
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-6.2
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-2.1
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-2.2
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-2.4
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-2.7
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-3.2
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-3.8
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-4.2
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-4.6
Freq=460.675000 DCC=0 L1-5.6 neighbor: Site L1-4.8

 

[richardbritt]

In the FCC license database there are 3 listings for 460.675 in Virginia. 2 listings are for what appears to be a radio leading company with the same name, and the 3rd listing has a individuals name but the filing states that it will be used for leasing repeaters. Nothing else is listed.

 

[Whiskey3JMC]

Perhaps site 9?

FCC Callsign WRFR285 (Kentucky Utilities Company)

FCC Callsign WRFR285 (Kentucky Utilities Company)

www.radioreference.com

 

[RMason]

I have this frequency i found and i can't find it on RR or FCC database, The frequency is 460.6750 it's DMR i'm located in Buchanan County Virginia. It sounds like a utilities company either power company or TV company or something like that i'm getting a strong signal so i think it should be close.

Could it be this (from a FCC Data Search - Query FCC Licenses by Frequency and State)?

Kentucky Utilities Company

460.675000

FB8

7K60FXD

24.000

WRFR285

A

NORTON

WISE

VA

YG

FCC Callsign WRFR285 (Kentucky Utilities Company)

FCC Callsign WRFR285 (Kentucky Utilities Company)

www.radioreference.com

 

[RMason]

Could it be this (from a FCC Data Search - Query FCC Licenses by Frequency and State)?

Kentucky Utilities Company

460.675000

FB8

7K60FXD

24.000

WRFR285

A

NORTON

WISE

VA

YG

FCC Callsign WRFR285 (Kentucky Utilities Company)

FCC Callsign WRFR285 (Kentucky Utilities Company)

www.radioreference.com

See also:

Louisville Gas Electric - Kentucky Utilities Trunking System, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

Louisville Gas Electric - Kentucky Utilities Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

 

[AngWay]

See also:

Louisville Gas Electric - Kentucky Utilities Trunking System, Elizabethtown, Kentucky

Louisville Gas Electric - Kentucky Utilities Trunking System Profile

www.radioreference.com

i really doubt it's the louisville one i would think i'm way to far away from that, a good possibility it is the kentucky utilities company tho. i'd like to get it pinned down so i can get it in the database. i keep listening for locations in the traffic but they don't use locations much the only one i have heard is a place called "Mudlick" Thanks tho.

 

[RMason]

i really doubt it's the louisville one i would think i'm way to far away from that, a good possibility it is the kentucky utilities company tho. i'd like to get it pinned down so i can get it in the database. i keep listening for locations in the traffic but they don't use locations much the only one i have heard is a place called "Mudlick" Thanks tho.

The Louisville Gas Electric system is licensed as Kentucky Utilities Company. This is a fairly large system in eastern Kentucky. Louisville Gas and Electric Company / Kentucky Utilities Company serves customers in Kentucky and five counties in Virginia.

The system ID matches the ID reported by DSD+ (L1). I believe you are receiving site 5.6 of this system (this site is not listed in the db).

There are sites on this system across the border from you in Kentucky that are included in the list of neighbors shown by DSD+. The Lawhorn Hill site in Clay County (4.4) is listed on the same license that I showed you for the site in Norton/Wise County VA. These sites also include Wallins Creek (3.8), Pineville (6.2), and Middlesboro (4.8). You won't receive the sites near Louisville, but you might be able to receive one of the sites closer to the border.

 

[AngWay]

The Louisville Gas Electric system is licensed as Kentucky Utilities Company. This is a fairly large system in eastern Kentucky. Louisville Gas and Electric Company / Kentucky Utilities Company serves customers in Kentucky and five counties in Virginia.

The system ID matches the ID reported by DSD+ (L1). I believe you are receiving site 5.6 of this system (this site is not listed in the db).

There are sites on this system across the border from you in Kentucky that are included in the list of neighbors shown by DSD+. The Lawhorn Hill site in Clay County (4.4) is listed on the same license that I showed you for the site in Norton/Wise County VA. These sites also include Wallins Creek (3.8), Pineville (6.2), and Middlesboro (4.8). You won't receive the sites near Louisville, but you might be able to receive one of the sites closer to the border.

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Ohh ok yeah this is probably it i'm not the smartest person on this but i dont' think it's a trunked system but maybe it is. i'm only getting that one frequency it's also the only one i have ever picked up in dsdplus that says TIIIStd Auto. Thanks

 

[RMason]

Ohh ok yeah this is probably it i'm not the smartest person on this but i dont' think it's a trunked system but maybe it is. i'm only getting that one frequency it's also the only one i have ever picked up in dsdplus that says TIIIStd Auto. Thanks

It looks like Louisville Gas and Electric Company / Kentucky Utilities Company use a networked DMR Tier3 radio system which includes both conventional and trunked frequencies. This system is composed of over 40 sites in KY and VA.

You appear to be right - the site you are receiving is Site 5.6 which has only a single frequency based on the FCC license information.

9

460.67500000

7K60FXD

FB8

1

24.000

36.89758

-82.62258

NORTON

WISE

VA

Other locations on the same license (WRFR285) include:

1

460.65000000

7K60FXD

FB8

1

200.000

37.29858

-84.85319

LAWHORN HILL

CASEY

KY

3

451.22500000

7K60FXD

FB8

1

194.000

37.12592

-83.76264

MANCHESTER

CLAY

KY

11

451.16250000

7K60FXD

FB8

1

260.000

38.18856

-84.26361

PARIS

BOURBON

KY

You will notice the following sites in the Louisville Gas Electric - Kentucky Utilities system which match the information from the license:

4

004 (4)

Lawhorn Hill

Casey

460.650

4

006 (6)

Manchester

Clay

451.225c

6

001 (1)

Paris

Bourbon

451.1625c

This gives credibility that you have found site 5.6 (Norton) for this system on 460.675.

 

[AngWay]

It looks like Louisville Gas and Electric Company / Kentucky Utilities Company use a networked DMR Tier3 radio system which includes both conventional and trunked frequencies. This system is composed of over 40 sites in KY and VA.

You appear to be right - the site you are receiving is Site 5.6 which has only a single frequency based on the FCC license information.

9

460.67500000

7K60FXD

FB8

1

24.000

36.89758

-82.62258

NORTON

WISE

VA

Other locations on the same license (WRFR285) include:

1

460.65000000

7K60FXD

FB8

1

200.000

37.29858

-84.85319

LAWHORN HILL

CASEY

KY

3

451.22500000

7K60FXD

FB8

1

194.000

37.12592

-83.76264

MANCHESTER

CLAY

KY

11

451.16250000

7K60FXD

FB8

1

260.000

38.18856

-84.26361

PARIS

BOURBON

KY

You will notice the following sites in the Louisville Gas Electric - Kentucky Utilities system which match the information from the license:

4

004 (4)

Lawhorn Hill

Casey

460.650

4

006 (6)

Manchester

Clay

451.225c

6

001 (1)

Paris

Bourbon

451.1625c

This gives credibility that you have found site 5.6 (Norton) for this system on 460.675.

This is great i'll try to gather all the information and submit it to the database. Thanks for all your help.