What is the "debug" folder all about anyway...?
HP-1: HomePatrol-1 2.06.xx Open Beta
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JamesO
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Do not worry about it for now, will explain later.
Well... it's updating, so far so good! 
Very well then...
JamesO
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debug folder is for storing debug/analysis information in a few of the Beta versions of software if you need to use this feature to send data to Uniden.
I have only used it once so far. The feature is there to allow Uniden to analyze and inspect for problems if anyone is running into specific issues with a version of Beta firmware.
Few will likely use it, but if needed the information will help the Uniden firmware Engineering group.
I have only used it once so far. The feature is there to allow Uniden to analyze and inspect for problems if anyone is running into specific issues with a version of Beta firmware.
Few will likely use it, but if needed the information will help the Uniden firmware Engineering group.
Gotcha James
I hope it isn't any more "difficult" than the initial folder creation.
Well, so far, so good with the beta. I wasn't staring at it all night but I haven't noticed any muted audio yet. I believe you mentioned something about the signal meter dropping up and down while receiving...? I did notice it doing that during a few transmissions but I don't recall any audio issues associated with it.
Also, the other simulcast issues seem to be a little better with my local P25 400mgz system as well.
After the first few minutes of running beta last night, it did have a couple of reception problems. I adjusted my squelch to 1, from 5, and the range down to 19.5, from 30. I'm using the stock antenna, which has not had a problem receiving my system since I am right inside the broadcast area with full bars since getting this unit.
Hopefully this version does the trick.
I hope it isn't any more "difficult" than the initial folder creation.
Well, so far, so good with the beta. I wasn't staring at it all night but I haven't noticed any muted audio yet. I believe you mentioned something about the signal meter dropping up and down while receiving...? I did notice it doing that during a few transmissions but I don't recall any audio issues associated with it.
Also, the other simulcast issues seem to be a little better with my local P25 400mgz system as well.
After the first few minutes of running beta last night, it did have a couple of reception problems. I adjusted my squelch to 1, from 5, and the range down to 19.5, from 30. I'm using the stock antenna, which has not had a problem receiving my system since I am right inside the broadcast area with full bars since getting this unit.
Hopefully this version does the trick.
JamesO
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For what ever reason on the HP-1 and I think the x36HP series scanners, the signal level meter will dance up and down quite a bit. This is considered "normal" and Uniden claims there are house keeping items happening when this is occurring.
Suggest you set the squelch to 2 bars, this is what most of my Uniden scanners are set to.
Do not worry about the Debug feature, will only be used if data is to be sent to Uniden. But it is very easy as well to deal with.
Suggest you press Menu, Audio Options, then press and hold the lower right blank box for about 10 seconds until the P25 Filter: A and P25 Mode: Auto is displayed on the left hand column on the Audio Option screen to enable the the P25 data to be displayed below the System line so you can see the error count. Then press Listen to return to scanning. You will have to do this each time the scanner is powered on if you want to see the P25 decoding info and error count.
Suggest you set the squelch to 2 bars, this is what most of my Uniden scanners are set to.
Do not worry about the Debug feature, will only be used if data is to be sent to Uniden. But it is very easy as well to deal with.
Suggest you press Menu, Audio Options, then press and hold the lower right blank box for about 10 seconds until the P25 Filter: A and P25 Mode: Auto is displayed on the left hand column on the Audio Option screen to enable the the P25 data to be displayed below the System line so you can see the error count. Then press Listen to return to scanning. You will have to do this each time the scanner is powered on if you want to see the P25 decoding info and error count.
Ahh yes...
I remember all that you mentioned now.
I don't recall seeing the P25 feature though. I'll go try that now. Not sure if I'm familiar enough to use any of that info yet but I'll check it out.
I remember all that you mentioned now.
I don't recall seeing the P25 feature though. I'll go try that now. Not sure if I'm familiar enough to use any of that info yet but I'll check it out.
Got the analyze mode running.
Thanks James
Thanks James
As a test I rolled my firmware back to 2.04.01 to rule out hardware issues since I was going to be driving through areas with simulcast sites that didn't seem to get along with the 2.06.08 beta and the scanner was full with traffic. Two days later I was headed back to the same area so I upgraded to the latest beta and had the same issues - Little to no traffic and talkgroups displaying but no producing audio.
JamesO
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So do you think your situation was no audio what so ever where the scanner actually was stopping on an active and decoded TG and the audio section had not unmuted or the scanner stopping on a TG allowcation, but was not able to decode the voice traffic?
I sometimes see that appears to be the scanner stop on a TG, maybe at the end of a TG grant or reservation, but not produce audio. In these cases I think the scanner holds on the end of the trunking channel grant/reservation, then the "normal" channel delay waits before scanning resumes. It almost appears that Uniden needs to tweak the firmware so if decoded voice never occurs, the scanner skips the delay feature and immediately resumes scanning.
JamesO
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It sits on talkgroups longer than the delay so it's like the control channel says there's traffic but the scanner isn't decoding it. And before someone asks, no it was not an encrypted talkgroup
Did you have the P25 mode info displayed??
You should see NON, DAT, LNK, P25 on left under the System info if you have the P25 mode enabled.
Assuming you do not have a weak signal problem, if P25 is solid and the Error rate is less than say 50%, I would expect you to hear comms traffic.
For some reason it appears that there ma be some differences in the radios and/or systems that impacts only a subset of the population??
I do not seem to have Mute problems with 2.06.08, where others claim 2.06.08 does not work for them???
N5AMS
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I updated the firmware to 2.06.08 and it took that away but iy did improve the reception on the TXWARN LSM towers
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Will we eventually get to a final firmware release once all of the Beta testing is done?
I hope it includes the ability to do a little decode tuning and error rate display as in the betas because I really don't see how one configuration can reliably decode all of the many combinations of P25 radio systems out there. There will always be someone "on the fringe"...
Thanks,
Harry
I hope it includes the ability to do a little decode tuning and error rate display as in the betas because I really don't see how one configuration can reliably decode all of the many combinations of P25 radio systems out there. There will always be someone "on the fringe"...
Thanks,
Harry
JamesO
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So to update what is going on with my specific HP-1 and the latest Firmware version 2.06.08.
Having some intermittent issues where the scanner has been going quiet like it had with earlier versions of firmware.
Scanner seems to stop often, display will brighten up, but there will be no audio.
Also the going deaf/quiet after a few minutes.
The ONLY thing that has changed is the ambient temperature have dropped/gotten cooler.
A few weeks ago I was dealing with ambient temps up to 103F, had driving 2500 miles with the radio in a RAM windshield mount with the sun beating on the radio and at times external power connected. Radio was very warm to handle at times.
Now I have temps in the 60F range and if I leave the scanner in the car overnight it seems the ambient temps are impacting the scanners performance.
This issue is not 100% consistent, but temperature does appear to impact the trunking performance on at least my radio, might be part of what is going on with some of the others that are not seeing consistent performance with a giving Firmware version?
Be curious if others may have noticed this issue with temperature?
Having some intermittent issues where the scanner has been going quiet like it had with earlier versions of firmware.
Scanner seems to stop often, display will brighten up, but there will be no audio.
Also the going deaf/quiet after a few minutes.
The ONLY thing that has changed is the ambient temperature have dropped/gotten cooler.
A few weeks ago I was dealing with ambient temps up to 103F, had driving 2500 miles with the radio in a RAM windshield mount with the sun beating on the radio and at times external power connected. Radio was very warm to handle at times.
Now I have temps in the 60F range and if I leave the scanner in the car overnight it seems the ambient temps are impacting the scanners performance.
This issue is not 100% consistent, but temperature does appear to impact the trunking performance on at least my radio, might be part of what is going on with some of the others that are not seeing consistent performance with a giving Firmware version?
Be curious if others may have noticed this issue with temperature?
Are you planning on sending into repair with this problem? Sounds like it could be a cold solder joint or bad component.
JamesO
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Absolutely not, I do not believe I have a hardware problem, I believe there is something with these units and the firmware because there are many people that seem to have issues with the different firmware version, some work fine, some do not.
I do need to make it clear so far this does not seem to be an audio circuit Muting or lack of un-Muting issue like I saw earlier.
IF Uniden really wanted to look into this, they have refrigerators and blow driers or portable heaters, they could see if there is an inherent temperature issue and how it may behave with different versions of firmware.
jasonhouk
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The only issue I've seen here in Ohio with ambiant temperature was last winter when we hit -40F and I left the HP1 in my truck overnight. The unit didn't want to fire up in the morning unit it warmed up.
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JamesO
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That was likely with the last production release firmware, not this current Beta firmware.
-40F is enough to ruin most peoples day either way you look at it.
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