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HT1250 paging set up

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I've figured out how to have a channel set aside that remains silent until a page out is sent. But is it possible to have that same channel in the scan bank, so I can scan my channels and still beep when the tone is set off? Can email codeplug if it helps.
Problem is, our tones are so close, and I'm not able to discern one tone from another, and when we are out of station on a sit down, it's nice to have that extra chirp for when call is for us.
 

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You are going to need to set up the tones under the signaling menu.
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Under your personality you want to monitor the tones, select the quick-call system you created.

You want to select "OR" under the RX system if you want to monitor it, if you only want to hear it when your tones are sent, you want to select "AND" for the signaling squelch. I think in your case you want to select "OR".
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thanks

Thanks, I'll give that a try, and probably go all day with no tones to test it out. Boy that would be nice though.
 

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Thanks, I'll give that a try, and probably go all day with no tones to test it out. Boy that would be nice though.
You may get the radio to decode the tones 50% of the time if you are scanning, though. The radio isn't really meant to scan and decode Quick-Call II. Motorola radios are notoriously slow at scanning causing the radio to miss part of the tones.

I know when I had mine set up to scan and decode, it only worked about half the time.
 

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I'm sitting here thinking and I'm thinking it wouldn't work at all on scan unless your priority channel was your selected channel and you were selected to the dispatch channel. If you are scanning and you're picking up another comm, it's not monitoring the dispatch channel, which it needs to do in order for the alert to work. If the radio misses the tones, it won't go off at all, and you will miss what you are trying to hear.
 

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The HT1250 can do 2 priority channels. Make one the selected channel and the other one your dispatch channel.
 

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The HT1250 can do 2 priority channels. Make one the selected channel and the other one your dispatch channel.

Right, but the problem there is if you are on the selected channel and some activity comes over, it will not be scanning the dispatch channel. Even IF your priority channel #1 is the dispatch channel, with activity on another channel, it can not monitor activity under the squelch, so it can't monitor the tones to alert them.
 

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If the dispatch channel is priority #1 and the channel with traffic is priority #2 the radio will check for a carrier on priority #1 every so often. You can set that value in the CPS. Priority #1 is priority #1, it will continue to monitor it regardless.
 

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I think you are missing what I'm saying though. Even if you set the priority to check for a carrier every 5 seconds, tones are generally 4 seconds long. If the tones go out within that 5 second space, you will get no alert because the radio will not pick up the tones.
 

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I think you are missing what I'm saying though. Even if you set the priority to check for a carrier every 5 seconds, tones are generally 4 seconds long. If the tones go out within that 5 second space, you will get no alert because the radio will not pick up the tones.
Then set it to check every 500ms. This is called the sample time in CPS.
 

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I did what K8TEC said, and it works exactly as I wanted. I even set up an extra quick call II to do the AllCall page, and just added same freq in the scan bank again with that tone
Next task is to learn how to set up another tone out system, where I transmit the tones so I can hand a doctor a radio, let him sleep, and then we page him to wake him up for emergency .
 

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I did what K8TEC said, and it works exactly as I wanted. I even set up an extra quick call II to do the AllCall page, and just added same freq in the scan bank again with that tone
Next task is to learn how to set up another tone out system, where I transmit the tones so I can hand a doctor a radio, let him sleep, and then we page him to wake him up for emergency .
Why are you using Quick-Call II? Use MDC for that.
 

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Motorola EX-500 and 600 Quick Call Programming

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In the CPS software it gives me a drop down menu in the QC-II signaling tab.

Choices: A/B, A/C
A/B, C/D
AB,AD,CD

THIS IS THE SITUATION:

County pages our department on these tones....(MADE UP to protect)

800.0 and 600.0 DUTY TONES

800.0 and 400.0 SCRAMBLE TONES

1000.0 and 600.0 ALL COUNTY WIDE PAGERS AT 6pm

Notice that on Duty Tones, the second set is 600.0 and on All County Wide the second set is also 600.0.


My pager has 4 settings: a,b,c,d

A- DUTY TONES, SCRAMBLE, AND COUTYWIDE. The pager will open anytime these are activated by dispatch.
B- SCRAMBLE TONES ONLY
C-COUNTYWIDE OPEN CSQ -ALL THREE TONES WILL ACTIVE WHILE LISTEN TO THE OTHER AGENCIES AS WELL, very busy and annoying to keep on this channel.
D-SAME AS A, BUT IN VIBRATION MODE.


Would like to program my EX-500 and EX-600 with all three sets of tones, but the way they have it listed with the CPS choices as listed below, etc. There appears to be no option for setting up this up on a QC-II System personality.

THESE ARE THE CPS CHOICES in the Signalling Quick Call setup:

A-B
A-B/A-C
A-B/C-B
A-B/A-D/C-D
A-B/C-D

So Folks, which set up should I use so I can hear all three tones on my radio on 1 conventional personality? Such as EX-500 Channel 1 EMS Dispatch. I don't want to have 3 separate channels for all three different tones pairs. I would like it to work like the pager on Channel A where all the tone pairs come through, just by leaving the pager set on Channel A.


Any help or ideas are appreciated.

Thanks in advance!
 

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Ok, I'm pretty sure I have it figured out for you.

A: 800
B: 400
C: 1000
D: 600

AB: 800 & 400 - Scramble
AD: 800 & 600 - Duty
CD: 1000 & 600 - Countywide
 

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Thank you, works like a charm!!!! Needed to put the scramble tone in first , duty second and countywide last.

Much appreciated for your time!!!

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I am also having trouble programming some tones in. I've done it before and had them working well however this code plan has me stumbled. Any help would be appreciated. Here's what I'm dealing with:

OFF Duty
Tone A 368.5 Tone B 1185.2
Vol FD
Pager Tone - A "blank" Tone B 1285.8
Siren Tone - A 422.1 Tone B1285.8

I'm trying to put these in a single channel for overnight use in an HT1250 using CPS. Is there a signalling call format that will allow this?
 
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