Huntress 226.300

[IdleMonitor]

Heard a Huntress Call on 226.300 Anyone got info on it? Didn't catch the rest of the ID just that it was Huntress.

I'm 100 km west of Ottawa, ON. Canada's capital. Generally my range for air stuff is about 150-200 kms from my location in eastern Ontario

 

[ka3jjz]

A general NORAD callsign....Mike

 

[IdleMonitor]

OK good to know. I heard it on a frequency I had listed as a Viper Common channel. Would this be a NORAD channel or a Viper Channel? I do have a few others listed as NORAD.

A general NORAD callsign....Mike

 

[n0xvz]

HUNTRESS is the callsign for NORAD's Eastern Air Defense Sector (EADS).

 

[dlwtrunked]

A general NORAD callsign....Mike

Not really a general NORAD callsign. It is a callsign assigned to the Eastern Air Defense Sector (EADS) at Rome, NY with transmitters throughout the eastern US. The callsign for the Western Air Defense Sector (WADS) at Joint Base Lewis-McChord in WA is "Big Foot".

 

[ka3jjz]

Didn't they join the two sectors some years back? Mike

 

[eorange]

Yes, as stated in the EADS mission:

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[IdleMonitor]

All great info. Much appreciate it. So I will re-label this as a NEADS frequency then.

Thanks.

 

[yow777]

All great info. Much appreciate it. So I will re-label this as a NEADS frequency then.

Thanks.

It is actually Viper Common. There were F-15's in the Viper airspace today simulating intercepts. They were using 226.300 to make simulated calls to Huntress.

 

[IdleMonitor]

The Viper Common I did get from a previous thread so that's where that reference came from. I can change it back. I made a whole new dept. for the confirmed NORAD/NEADS frequencies I do have. I'll just change this back to Viper Common and keep it under this dept.

It is actually Viper Common. There were F-15's in the Viper airspace today simulating intercepts. They were using 226.300 to make simulated calls to Huntress.

 

[eorange]

Huntress frequencies are 260.900 and 228.900.

 

[AirScan]

From what I've heard it's common to hear the Barnes F-15s communicate with Huntress on 260.900 when they are working Viper. Where they simulating Huntress on 226.300 or did they just have the wrong frequency selected when they called ? Once I've also hear the Burlington F-35s working Huntress on 277.60 while in Viper. There is also a published Huntress frequency of 364.200 showing for AR609 which is the AR track in the southern part of Viper, but I've not heard it used ?

Viper is showing active now. Here's my list of frequencies used in the Viper area, heard recently. Any additions or corrections appreciated.

226.300 - VIPER Common
226.800 - VIPER (BTV F35s-PRI?)
234.800 - VIPER (BTV F35s-AUX 16 or 17?)
253.200 - VIPER (BTV F35s-AUX 17?)
253.700 - VIPER (BTV F35s-AUX 17?)
257.075 - VIPER (LFI F22s)
257.600 - Wheeler Sack Approach (BTV F35s-AUX 11)
260.900 - Huntress
261.800 - VIPER (BTV F35s)
264.850 - VIPER (BAF F15s)
276.500 - AR 609 Primary
277.600 - Huntress
282.200 - Boston ZBW (BTV F35s-CH55)
282.700 - AR 609 Secondary
293.700 - BTV ANG OPS
314.400 - VIPER (BTV F35s-PRI?)
323.000 - Boston ZBW (BTV F35s-CH?)
349.700 - VIPER (BTV F35s-PRI?)
360.800 - BTV APR (BTV F35s-CH54)
364.200 - Huntress (AR 609) - not confirmed
377.100 - Boston ZBW (BTV F35s - CH?)

 

[dlwtrunked]

Didn't they join the two sectors some years back? Mike

NEADS (Rome, NY) and SEADS (which was at Panama City, FL) were combined as EAD (Rome, NY) . WADS is still separated.

 

[IdleMonitor]

More great info. Thanks, I'll plug these in as well. So me just being a curious Canadian here. What is VIPER all about? Is it part of NOAD? NEADS? or is it something seperate?

Just wanna update my programming departments accordingly.

From what I've heard it's common to hear the Barnes F-15s communicate with Huntress on 260.900 when they are working Viper. Where they simulating Huntress on 226.300 or did they just have the wrong frequency selected when they called ? Once I've also hear the Burlington F-35s working Huntress on 277.60 while in Viper. There is also a published Huntress frequency of 364.200 showing for AR609 which is the AR track in the southern part of Viper, but I've not heard it used ?

Viper is showing active now. Here's my list of frequencies used in the Viper area, heard recently. Any additions or corrections appreciated.

226.300 - VIPER Common
226.800 - VIPER (BTV F35s-PRI?)
234.800 - VIPER (BTV F35s-AUX 16 or 17?)
253.200 - VIPER (BTV F35s-AUX 17?)
253.700 - VIPER (BTV F35s-AUX 17?)
257.075 - VIPER (LFI F22s)
257.600 - Wheeler Sack Approach (BTV F35s-AUX 11)
260.900 - Huntress
261.800 - VIPER (BTV F35s)
264.850 - VIPER (BAF F15s)
276.500 - AR 609 Primary
277.600 - Huntress
282.200 - Boston ZBW (BTV F35s-CH55)
282.700 - AR 609 Secondary
293.700 - BTV ANG OPS
314.400 - VIPER (BTV F35s-PRI?)
323.000 - Boston ZBW (BTV F35s-CH?)
349.700 - VIPER (BTV F35s-PRI?)
360.800 - BTV APR (BTV F35s-CH54)
364.200 - Huntress (AR 609) - not confirmed
377.100 - Boston ZBW (BTV F35s - CH?)

 

[AirScan]

So me just being a curious Canadian here. What is VIPER all about?

Basically it's just an area designated for military training flights, it's also known as part of the "Adirondack Airspace Complex". Which includes the MOAs, ATCAAs, Viper Airspace, Fort Drum Restriced areas.

Below was taken from Federal Register.

"The Adirondack Airspace Complex is used by as many as eight fighter wings for training in air-to-air tactics, and air-to-ground weapons delivery, lasers, etc. In addition, Fort Drum is the home of the U.S. Army's 10th Mountain Division and the restricted areas are extensively used for surface-based weapons training (e.g., artillery and mortar firing, missiles, etc.) by U.S. Army and National Guard units. The 174th FW at Syracuse, NY, is both the proponent and one of the primary users of the Adirondack Airspace Complex."

It's a little dated, from 2008, so the last part about the 174th using it doesn't apply as those F-16s have been replaced by MQ-9 drones that primarily use the OSWEGO and GRIMM ATCAAs, although I have heard them get cleared into Viper West on occasion.

 

[IdleMonitor]

Ahh ok. Good to know. I saw an image of the airspace for that on a previous thread as well, but the image was too fuzzy to understand properly.

Odd that I would hear that, but then again at 29,000 ft anything is possible. 150-200+km is generally my range that I can hear aircraft at from all over especially to the south and eastern direction from me. It's a busy air travel corridor. Always lots to listen to in the air, although the amount of air stuff heard has definitely decreased admidst the pandemic over the last year.

Basically it's just an area designated for military training flights, it's also known as part of the "Adirondack Airspace Complex". Which includes the MOAs, ATCAAs, Viper Airspace, Fort Drum Restriced areas.

 

[IdleMonitor]

Here's my general listening coverage range taken from my Flightaware feeder.

 

[AirScan]

I saw an image of the airspace for that on a previous thread as well, but the image was too fuzzy to understand properly.

This might be a little clearer. Viper aka Adirondack Air Space complex includes these MOAs.



The MOAs are depicted on the "World VFR" chart ... Skyvector, as well as the FAA SUA website when they are active.

You should be able to hear the higher stuff, expecially when they are in the northern part. The airspace extends up to 50,000 feet, but I'm not sure how often they actually get that high ? So far the highest I've heard them report at is 38,000 but they usually seem to work between 10,000 to 25,000.

 

[IdleMonitor]

Yes this is much clearer and explains it alot more. Definitely falls into my fringe range.

This might be a little clearer. Viper aka Adirondack Air Space complex includes these MOAs.

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The MOAs are depicted on the "World VFR" chart ... Skyvector, as well as the FAA SUA website when they are active.

You should be able to hear the higher stuff, expecially when they are in the northern part. The airspace extends up to 50,000 feet, but I'm not sure how often they actually get that high ? So far the highest I've heard them report at is 38,000 but they usually seem to work between 10,000 to 25,000.

 

[wv2vvl]

A general NORAD callsign....Mike

HUNTRESS is (or was) the SE air defense sector station call. I was inside on a PR junket. Flew down from McGuire AFB in a KC-135. The sign on entering said 'DEADLY FORCE AUTHORIZED' & the airman with the loaded M16 did not look like he was happy to see us. By pushing a button they can switch their consoles to remote radar sites (shared with FAA) & high-power remote comm bases.