BC125AT: BC125AT Birdies?

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ErikSwan

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I seem to recall that Unidan Man Paul Optiz (very sadly RIP and missed) said that the BC125AT and UBC125XLT were internally different. I have the schematics for the UBC125XLT so if someone has the same for the BC125AT then they can do a compare. The UBC125XLT does have a larger frequency range compared to the BC125AT so if nothing else filters and internal oscillator "stuff" must have changed.

See: Scan125 Control Program User Manual
Would have to imagine this is the case as otherwise it's hard to imagine the reason for some of the restrictions that the BC125AT has vs. the UBC125XLT, like the exclusion of 380-400MHz.

Would be a fun project to take apart a 125AT and reverse engineer it, but I have too many other projects right now...
 

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I tried again with a 50 ohm BNC terminator on the antenna input and the squelch set to the maximum of 15, and it didn't significantly change the results - still around 40 birdies even with the antenna input terminated and the squelch set to the maximum!

Then I tested the brand new (not Amazon Warehouse) one that I ordered. Without the antenna (no 50 ohm terminator, just open) and with the squelch set to 2, the brand new radio only picked up 4 birdies across the whole frequency range (compared to 72 on the first radio under the same conditions)!

It could just be (huge) manufacturing variance, but it seems more likely that the Amazon Warehouse radio was damaged or defective. I'll be returning that one and keeping the brand new model, which seems to be just as sensitive on real signals without the birdies.

I've had luck with Amazon Warehouse in the past, but a cautionary tale that you never really know exactly what you are getting...
 

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Yep, it did sound like the original one was a bit poorly although I’ve never used Uniden receivers so I didn’t really know what to expect. I’ve heard good things about them and they are popular over here for airband listening but I already have a number of good comms receivers for what I want to do.

That said, I did use Yupiteru scanners in the late 80s into the mid 1990s and they did suffer with a fair few birdies but the detailed architecture and schematics in the manuals made it easier to work out where they would be.
 

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For information, I have two UBC125XLT's, - first one purchased 2017, the
second about 8 months ago. One thing that I was surprised at & impressed
with in the first scanner, was the lack of birdies, especially in searching
the Mil Air Band.
Lock out was only required a few times, to complete a full search of 225-400 Mhz,
and generally the scanner seemed to have fewer birdies than expected.

The second scanner has many more birdies, & in searching Mil Air band on this
one, lock out is required in the tens of times (i have a list similar to the
scanner in question, but i was comparing with a known radio using different
antennas, rather than no antenna)

(A quick check, i found some birdies i have noted, match the list given for the
scanner in question)

I assumed it was down to hardware changes, but also noted the firmware versions
were different (not surprising due to the age difference).

The second scanner hasn't been used much yet, but sensitivity comparison &
other performance so far, seems equal.
Because the first had so few birdies, i'd even thought perhaps they were being
'dealt with' in the firmware & this wasn't the case in the second, or it was just
down to hardware changes ?

The birdies in the second scanner could possibly be considered normal, but why
such a big difference & why so few in the first radio ?
Up to now, i hadn't found any more info & didn't consider the second scanner as
faulty, but more like the AOR radios i own, as far as having to lock out more
frequencies when searching.
When scanning directly entered frequencies, it isn't as much of a problem, unless
a birdie clashes with an interesting frequency !
 

funnyfarm299

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I just bought a used BC125AT on eBay, I'm getting a ton of birdies as well with the antenna removed.
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There's a NOAA weather radio transmitter five miles from my house, I'll have to perform this test again in another location with a terminator on the antenna port.

As @RadioMS897 mentioned, this might have something to do with a component change. Per the BC125AT firmware update page, units with a serial starting with 370A seem to be newer production runs. Mine's one of the newer ones.
 
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