i Call question

[kikito]

When I listen to EDACS I-Calls on a 785 D I do hear both sides of the conversation, and when I hit hold the display holds whatever ID was displayed when when hold was pushed, yet you can hear both sides without the display changing. (As long as the I-Call is still locked up, anyway)

Well, your system must be setup differently because on mine (EDACS), when you press Hold on an I-Call, it stays on the last LID that was transmitting and that's the only one you hear. You never hear the other party involved. That's why I usually would keep a bank setup for "I-Calls only" and no delay so that as soon as they unkey, it'll go back to scanning for the response on the other LID.

 

[BJ_NORTON]

I am using a 780, and when I hold on an i Call, I hear both sides of every conversation. I am listening to the NSRS-Nevada State TRS

To be honest some of these i calls are down right annoying, and some are freakin' wierd! That was why I asked the question. I wanted to know who some of these wackos are.

 

[dynamitedjs]

This reply is for Jerry, a 296 will do I calls and I think they are very interesting. My local pd is also edacs. Most people in the pd, fire etc. don't think i calls can be intercepted by any radio so you do hear interesting things. I program one of my group id's as: i00000. Doing that you can program it to receive any i calls. I lock out the ones I don't want to hear such as public utilities etc. But even if you lock those out it doesn't lock out all i calls only from that particular radio you will not receive i calls. I also have it on one of the other banks that uses motorola astro IMBE 3600 baud. It is programmed as talkgroup id:700000, so that way it will pick up their calls too. Those of you with the pro 96 are missing transmissions between two officers on a call or other units that may be on the scene of an incident and they will talk directly to each other about the call they are on etc. And you do hear both sides of the conversation. Also the reason some people are saying they are only hearing one side of the conversation is because thay are holding on one id. You have to let the radio scan to listen to the other side of the i call. The manual even tells you that. Actually as I type this, I just held on an i call on an edacs system and I do hear both sides of the conversation. I'm not sure if thats true on the motorola system. Oh, Jerry I guess I forgot to tell you I use a 296.

 

[kikito]

Oh, now I see how you guys say you can hear BOTH sides of the conversation on EDACS iCalls: by programming the Global I-call ID of i00000. You can also have the same results by doing what I said in my previous message.

I knew about that trick since it's in the book (on Page 46) BUT that's not really "holding" an iCall. Even the book says something to that effect. Try that on a busy system with about 3 or more different iCalls happening at the same time and you'll be lost real quick.

Unlike with most Motorola systems that you can hold on the 2 radios involved on the Private Call and ONLY those 2.

I'm not trying to argue here, but that's the nature of EDACS iCalls. I still stand by my belief that there's no "true" way of holding an iCall on EDACS. For the simple reason that if you're scanning TG's and iCalls on a busy system and an interesting iCall pops up, you won't be able to just press hold and listen to both sides and ONLY those 2 like you can on a Motorola system.

In other words, you can hear both sides of an iCall on EDACS but it's not that easy or practical on a busy system. If you press Hold when one pops up, you'll only hear the LID you're Holding unless you're using the Global ID of i00000, then you'll hear all iCalls going on the system unless you lock out the LID's you don't want which in reality is not practical either since most systems have hundreds if not thousands of radios.

 

[eyes00only]

ATTN. dynamitedjs

THANKS FOR THE INFO!


Jerry

 

[dynamitedjs]

YOU'RE WELCOME!

 

[Thayne]

I just tried it again; I get both sides Of an EDACS I-call, and I am not doing the I0000 trick, I just have I-calls enabled--

I guess I think I am more believable than Kerry

 

[dynamitedjs]

that works too!

 

[kikito]

I just tried it again; I get both sides Of an EDACS I-call, and I am not doing the I0000 trick, I just have I-calls enabled--

On my local system that only works IF there's only 1 iCall going on the system at the time and even then, I have to disable the Delay because otherwise I will lose the first 2 seconds of the response on the other LID before the BC296D or BC780XLT switches to it.

"I just have I-calls enabled" too but if there's more than one iCall happening at the time, it will go from one iCall to a different one and most likely not the response to the first one I was listening to.

Let me rephrase that: There's no way for me on my local system to isolate or filter out or limit an I-Call to only the 2 units involved or that I'm interested in. I guess I could program the ID's of only the 2 units but how would I know which ones until I hear them from hundreds of other radios? And if I program more than two Radio ID's then it'll defeat the purpose. As you can see, I can listen to both sides but not in a practical way like in Motorola systems. That's my point. But whatever.... :roll:

I guess the systems you guys have in your area might be more up to date than mine and deals with I-Calls differently, after all, the military one I monitor for the past 8 years is still using the "GE jingle" after every transmission instead of just the beeps like most other systems.

 

[dynamitedjs]

kikito, how about the i call that is interesting that you want to hear, just hit search to hear the other half of the conver. That should work....

 

[kikito]

kikito, how about the i call that is interesting that you want to hear, just hit search to hear the other half of the conver. That should work....

LOL! you know, that's what I usually do BUT sometimes it doesn't jump to the right one because there's others going on. By the time I find the one I wanted, it's gone!

I guess I got caught up trying to explain to the "audience" that there's no simple way to do it without jumping through hoops or missing stuff in the process.

Oh well, hopefully "no harm done".... 8)

 

[dynamitedjs]

I can't belive there are that many elves talking on I calls at the north pole....oh wait, it is that time of year almost. Sorry I wasn't thinking (LOL) :wink:

 

[kikito]

I can't belive there are that many elves talking on I calls at the north pole....oh wait, it is that time of year almost. Sorry I wasn't thinking (LOL) :wink:

You won't believe how "gossipy" those elves can be! :lol: