I did a uhf scan on my uv-5rm plus

[casemods]

Captured my little dewalt DXFRS220 walkie talkies (rebranded cobra ACT220B)

is there a power limit on this band? Or am I free to transmit as I please?

Channel 1 is 462.56250 and channel 22 is 462.7250

Going buy the dewalt model name, tbey are FRS?

 

[pb_lonny]

Generally if you buy a "brand name" product, they will meet all the legal requirements. It is when people try to use the Baofeng type radios that it can be an issue.

For transmitting, they are only allow on the amateur bands.
- Can you use them for FRS? Sure, but not "legally".
- Will you get caught? Maybe. If you don't do anything stupid, you should be okay.

 

[casemods]

Generally if you buy a "brand name" product, they will meet all the legal requirements. It is when people try to use the Baofeng type radios that it can be an issue.

For transmitting, they are only allow on the amateur bands.
- Can you use them for FRS? Sure, but not "legally".
- Will you get caught? Maybe. If you don't do anything stupid, you should be okay.

I'm assuming the range/output on these is so low that it would be nearly impossible for anyone outside of your property or even a few houses away to hear you? And no, no illegal talk on them, just work stuff.

 

[mmckenna]

Captured my little dewalt DXFRS220 walkie talkies (rebranded cobra ACT220B)

is there a power limit on this band? Or am I free to transmit as I please?

There are limitations on FRS and GMRS regarding how much power you can run, as well as other limitations.

Short answer is no. You can't -legally- transmit with these radios on FRS -or- GMRS. They do not have the required FCC Part 95 certifications that would be required.

There's no shortage of people that will tell you that it doesn't matter, that the FCC can't find you, but ultimately it comes down to your integrity. There are MUCH better radios that you can get that would be legal for use on FRS -or- GMRS.

Be aware that GMRS requires an FCC issued license. It is NOT license free.

FRS, which uses the same frequencies does not require an FCC issued license, but it has limitations that your radio does not meet.

Not the right radio for the job.

Channel 1 is 462.56250 and channel 22 is 462.7250

Going buy the dewalt model name, tbey are FRS?

They would be FRS. FRS uses the same frequencies as GMRS, but has some additional technical requirements, like non-removable antenna, 2 watts or less on some channels, 0.5 watts or less on other channels, narrow band only, can't use repeaters.

 

[pb_lonny]

The Dewalt radios should be fully approved, so you can use them when and how you please.

I just wanted to be clear on using the Baofeng, do you have your amateur radio licence?

 

[nd5y]

I'm assuming the range/output on these is so low that it would be nearly impossible for anyone outside of your property or even a few houses away to hear you?

Wrong. Other walkie talkies at ground level in a flat area might not be able to hear you more than a mile or so but other stations with good antennas high above ground on a tower or building might be able to hear low power walkie talkies dozens of miles away. On a mountain top it could be 100 miles.

 

[casemods]

The Dewalt radios should be fully approved, so you can use them when and how you please.

I just wanted to be clear on using the Baofeng, do you have your amateur radio licence?

I do not, so I won't use it. I don't think you can set the output low enough either?

 

[pb_lonny]

Yes, the Baofeng is not suitable for anything EXCEPT amateur radio, even if the power level was reduced, they are not approved for that usage.

 

[casemods]

Yes, the Baofeng is not suitable for anything EXCEPT amateur radio, even if the power level was reduced, they are not approved for that usage.

What range exactly?

 

[Hans13]

Yes, the Baofeng is not suitable for anything EXCEPT amateur radio, even if the power level was reduced, they are not approved for that usage.

Baofeng has some properly FCC certified models on the market; including FRS radios. Repeatedly stating "Baofeng" without any qualifiers is inaccurate.

 

[mmckenna]

What range exactly?

Depends on which radio you purchase. There are many amateur radio bands. A lot of amateur radio operators use them on the 2 meter band (144-148MHz) and the 70 centimeter band, 430-450MHz.
Amateur radio license is required, but not difficult to get.

 

[pb_lonny]

Baofeng has some properly FCC certified models on the market; including FRS radios. Repeatedly stating "Baofeng" without any qualifiers is inaccurate.

"my uv-5rm plus" = Pretty clear I am referring to the Baofeng radio in the first picture / in the title of the thread...​

 

[Hans13]

"my uv-5rm plus" = Pretty clear I am referring to the Baofeng radio in the first picture / in the title of the thread...​

No, it was not completely obvious. I didn't even realize the title has a model listed. Besides, the OP never specifically refers to transmitting on the UV-5RM Plus. I didn't comprehend the OP that way and only now realize the other interpretation. I read it as: this came up on my scanner, can I transmit with my Dewalt on these frequencies and what are the power limits. However, your posts simply had "Baofeng" without a model or qualifier.

Yes, you are correct that the Baofeng UV-5RM Plus is not for the other services and is typically used on amateur radio (likely the radio is Part 15 certified). However, I would strongly recommend that you consider putting a qualifier in the future (many or some or model name etc Baofengs) as you posts left the impression that NO Baofeng was properly certified; which would be incorrect. I've encountered that elsewhere in person and on the web that people believe there are no properly certified Baofengs. Or don't. It's your choice.

 

[tomk62]

If anyone had actually bothered to check the specs instead of jumping on the "omg not a cheap Chinese piece of junk Baofeng!" bandwagon, you would see that this model does not transmit above 450MHz:

UV-5RM Plus 10W Multi-Band Radio

Press and hold the scan button, and place it near the radio you want to scan, upon radio transmission, UV-5RM Plus will display the frequency(±2.5 PPM), CTCSS or DCS tones, or ‘NONE’ if CTCSS or DCS is absent. Equipped with a Type-C charging port, this radio can be recharged from anywhere and...

www.baofengradio.com

Transmit across 144-148 & 420-450MHz frequencies.[US version]

 

[mmckenna]

If anyone had actually bothered to check the specs instead of jumping on the "omg not a cheap Chinese piece of junk Baofeng!" bandwagon,

Well, if the shoe fits….

you would see that this model does not transmit above 450MHz:

There are a LOT of websites/YouTube videos that explain how to unlock those radios so they transmit outside the ham bands. It's very often the first thing a new owner does.

 

[casemods]

This is the range the radio visually showed transmitting, some people on Facebook groups have said they might not actually transmit at these ranges and only show on the screen that they are