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Token wrote above...

"Err....ham is limited to 1.5 kW PEP, not 1 kW."

And 1KW DC is equivalent to 1.5KW PEP, so don't pick nits. If you're a CW guy there no such
thing as peak envelope power; it's all just DC.
 

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Token wrote above...

"Err....ham is limited to 1.5 kW PEP, not 1 kW."

And 1KW DC is equivalent to 1.5KW PEP, so don't pick nits. If you're a CW guy there no such
thing as peak envelope power; it's all just DC.

I assume by “1kW DC” you mean 1 kW DC input power, or input power (you know, PA plate voltage x plate current).

However, the rules no longer state input power limitation (and have not for a long time, although that was how it was when I was first licensed as a Novice and limited to 75 W input power), they only state PEP limitation, for all modes. And if you are a CW guy there still is PEP, but PEP and average power are the same when the transmitter is keyed (assuming a clean CW signal). This means CW guys can run more output power under today’s regulations, while AM guys have to run less.

By specifying 1 kW of DC input power you are NOT getting the maximum power allowed for ham radio in the US. Depending on the efficiency of the amp when making 1 kW DC input you are making something less than 1 kW output power (both PEP and average during key-down) in CW. With today’s rules you can run to 1500 Watts PEP indicated in CW, and that will be far more than 1000 Watts DC input.

In other words, 1 kW input is not equivalent to 1.5 kW PEP. With 60% efficiency (say, an Alpha 78 amplifier) 1 kW DC input is equal to 600 Watts CW output, which is also 600 Watts PEP in CW. I know I run around 2 kW DC input power to get my legally allowed maximum of 1500 W on CW with my Alpha 9500.

It was not a nitpick, it was a statement of fact. You did not specify DC input power, and even if you had it would have been incorrect. When I made my post I assumed you had made a typo and left off the “.5” and I was correcting that typo so others would not go away with information that was incorrect.

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Your all missing the point. The original point of CB was to provide comms for a range of about 10 to 15 miles max. It worked just fine with the 5 watts input that was authorized.

As has already been said, there will always be those that just have to be top dog and run the most they can find just to say they are on top. It doesn't get them any further distance, but sure does run up the power bill.

One point to remember that every time you double your transmitter power, you only gain 3 db. If you double the gain of your antenna from say 3 db to 6 db, the effective increase on your output is only a 3 db gain. Another way of comparing it is say you have a beam with 6 db gain. Then you stack a second beam antenna just like it with 6 db gain. The end result is you now have a total gain of 9 db not 12 db.

Legal limit has always been 4 watts.
 
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