Well I tried to apologize to people it was an accident. I was in a mindset with racing thoughts & none of my usual lifelines to stop me from myself. It happens sometimes. Ill just erase this account and start over its not that important to me anyway. Plus ive learned a helpful amount here thru bits & pieces of info from a few responses I did get.. Anyway thanks for the advice you did give about radio. Take care
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Baofeng Im at a loss & could use some advice
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Omg, we'll there's a well thought out reply. Maybe your next persona will take their meds, after reading the users guide.
What would that accomplish?
I think most of us understand that. When I have a lot that is on my mind, I'll often type it up in a notepad or other editor to make sure I get my thoughts together. I did that for my response to you yesterday.
No need to go to that extreme. Just stick around. Most of us are harmless here, and some even try to be helpful despite the curmudgeons.
Omg, we'll there's a well thought out reply. Maybe your next persona will take their meds, after reading the users guide.
There is a lot of irony in that post...
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Yes, it happens sometimes to all of us. No reason to apologize.
No reason to do that for one mistake. Most of us would have thousands of accounts if we changed it each time we made an error.
That is what most of us are here for. We're happy to help.
The best way to learn is to keep asking questions. Usually most will do their best to help with useful answers. Ignore those that don't.
My post about pondering before publishing wasn't meant as criticism to you or anyone. It was simply general advice and the information that's been posted since is at least as important if not more so. Forget about what happened and move on.
Don't erase your account. As others have said, no need to apologize either. You didn't do anything wrong. Starting over serves no purpose - you've already asked a number of questions and gotten helpful replies.
You're off to a good start. Stick around, ask more questions and most of all, have fun with the hobby. It's a good group of friendly, knowledgeable folks here.
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laugh about it, and carry on.
it was no big deal.
and i used to say when i was working, someone else has done worse.
good to have you on here.
i am known for talking too much in person.
has anyone else heard that...give me a like if you have !
it was no big deal.
and i used to say when i was working, someone else has done worse.
good to have you on here.
i am known for talking too much in person.
has anyone else heard that...give me a like if you have !
This is why you shouldn't worry about it. We've all (ok at least the good majority of us) had moments where we made mistakes or worded stuff wrong or .....
Just hang in there. Lots to learn here and a bunch of good folks around to help.
In the channel information. 1 thing i dont understand is what DPL means (i have read the meaning of DPL but do not remember when or where i read it & did not write it down along with all other notes i am keeping to refer to later) I know what PL is. That's the ctcss tone setting. DPL has me confused. I dont know what im supose to program in my radio for Dpl and whatever # comes next to it. I assume its a digital freq & the DPL IS THE ID# to use while in a certain freq. To be able to hear that talkgroup. Just not sure if im correct nor sure how to enter the info. In what settings do I add what info in order to listen. I hope this question came out more understandable.I assumed that you are in Manchester Township, NJ / Ocean County based on your looking to program "Parkway/Turnpike/lifeguards" etc, which I took to mean the NJ Turnpike / Garden State Parkway
Here is the link to the database for Ocean County, NJ. The PRO-23 scanner you mentioned in another post will only be able to receive frequencies marked "FMN" in the database, as it is not capable of digital modes like P25 or DMR. These frequencies are also in the receive range of your Baofeng 5RM.
Your local police in Manchester Township are P25, but the FD and EMS are analog FMN:
Manchester
453.1625 WNIN586 B 192.8 PL Manch FD Disp Fire Dispatch FMN Fire Dispatch 151.2425 WQBD343 RM 134 DPL Manch Squad 29 Squad 29 Manchester EMS Ops FMN EMS-Talk
The PRO-23 also has a search feature you could utilize. Search small segments of each band to see what you can hear (example 155.000 - 156.000 MHz, 460.000 - 461.000 MHz)
I found some frequencies for lifeguards / beach patrols you can try. These will be handhelds / low power, so you might not be able to hear them from your location.
Ocean County, New Jersey (NJ) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference
Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference for Ocean County, New Jersey (NJ)www.radioreference.com
Berkeley
151.880 BM 565 DPL Berkeley Lifegrd Lifeguards FMN Public Works 154.570 BM 565 DPL Berkeley Beach Beach Badge Attendants FMN Public Works
Lavallette
151.2575 WQTQ368 RM 229.1 PL Lavallette Beach Beach Patrol 1 FMN EMS-Talk
Seaside Park
155.9325 WQZP613 BM 223 DPL SsP Beach Ops Beach Operations FMN Public Works 150.805 WQZP613 RM 223 DPL SsP Beach Cntrl Beach Control FMN Public Works 150.775 KB94184 M 107.2 PL SsP Beach Maint Beach Matainence FMN Public Works 155.175 KB94184 M 107.2 PL SsP Beach Patrol Beach Patrol/Lifeguards FMN Public Works
Seaside Heights
DPL, it is a different tone type. Also known as DCS.
wiki.radioreference.com
DCS - The RadioReference Wiki
To receive you do NOT need any tone squelch, or DPL. Just the frequency will get it to where you can receive. In some areas, multiple departments might be on the same frequency but using different "CTCSS tones or DPL but, sometimes in a general listening mode, I'd prefer to hear anything on a given frequency. Up to you but I wouldn't worry much about that in the listening category, you'd only need that to key up the other radios on that department. Others may argue about selectivity but, the bottom line is you do NOT need that CTCSS tone or DPL (DCS) to receive what's coming out on that frequency.
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"Not letter of the law legal" is illegal.
Yes, that has been established. Radios sold for use on the Family Radio Service (FRS) are FCC certified under Part 95. The Baofeng radios the OP owns are not certified under Part 95 to operate legally on those frequencies because they are capable of higher power output than what is permitted and are user-programmable. FRS radios come pre-programmed and are not user-programmable.
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Plus, the Baofeng radios have removable antennae. That's not permitted for FRS radios.
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PL tones are a (usually) sub audible tone that is transmitted along with the voice. Receivers can be set up to listen for that specific sub audible tone and then trigger a function, like passing the voice audio, triggering the transmitter, etc.
A DPL does the exact same thing. Instead of it being a single sub audible tone, it's a little digital data burst code that the receiver can decode and perform the desired function.
DPL does not mean that the audio is digital. It's used on analog systems. DPL just gives you some more options than PL. Still essentially the same thing.
Talkgroups are a different way of segregating users. Usually it's used to describe the groupings of users on a trunked systems, but it is also used on some digital conventional (non-trunked) radio system to separate users.
PL and DPL are used on analog channels.
You can set up the radio to send a PL or DPL tone.
You can set up the radio to listen for a PL or DPL tone.
You don't need to program PL or DPL's into the transmit side if you are not going to be transmitting. Since you do not have a license, you can program your radios for receive only until you've got your license.
You don't -need- to program a PL or DPL code on the receive side. If you leave it out, the radio will hear everything on that channel that is within range. For listening only, that can be beneficial to make sure you hear all the traffic on the channel and it'll ease programming.
DMR, P25 and NXDN don't use PL/DPL codes. They have different ways of handling this function that is built into the respective digital protocols.
Thankyou all for your advice and information which is helping me connect the dots in my mind with all of the stuff I have been reading so far. Right now I have gone back to focusing more on using and programming my UV-5RM as it is much easier to use & learn. I have near 30 channels programed & named using the wireless programmer i purchased for it. Not that I really need it because I can do everything manually on that radio. Using the wireless app just allows me to name the channels so I see names on my 5RM instead of seeing the freq. And im able to program info faster. Im putting my DM32-UV down for now until I learn more and make sense of the info I have read so far. Each time I read helpful informational responses you guys tend to include bits of info im not finding elsewhere which helps me put things together in my head bringing me yet another small step towards achieving my goals. I WILL REPEAT ONE THING OVER AND OVER SO PEOPLE ARE CLEAR ON THIS. I HAVE NO INTENTION OF TRYING TO TALK TO ANYINE ON THE RADIOS I HAVE. its purely to listen to whats going on out in the world around me. So anyone here thats a massive stickler for the rules, you can calm yourselves down. Nothing illegal going on here. If you choose not to believe that,.. well then thats your problem. Not mine. I thank you all for your continued Information and advice.
This is a good idea. With the names programmed in, you'll instantly know what you are listening to instead of memorizing frequencies. Eventually, you will be able to identify what agency you are hearing without even looking at the radio.
This is the best approach. Buying a pair of FRS radios, as suggested by others here, is a good option for talking with your friend if he is not that far away. They are low-power radios and the range will be limited, but they are generally cheap and easy to use.
