IMPD On Illegal tac frequencies 156Mhz

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rdale said:
AGAIN - you stopped the BOLD part a little too soon... It doesn't say you can use any frequency in that range as some have blatantly said, it indicates that you can use any in that range AND IN THAT LIST.

Not the same. I still challenge the few remaining holdouts to find evidence of your claim...

(5) A Police licensee may use transmitters on the frequencies
indicated below in connection with official police activities without
specific authorization from the Commission, provided that such use shall
be on a secondary basis and shall not cause harmful interference to
services of other licensees operating on regularly assigned frequencies,
and further provided that all such use complies with the requirements of
Federal, State and local laws. The provisions of Sec. 90.429 shall not
apply to transmitters authorized under this paragraph. To be eligible
for operations in this manner, the transmitter must comply with all of
the following requirements.
(i) In accordance with Sec. 90.203 and Sec. 2.803 of this chapter,
the transmitter must be of a type which has been certificated by the
Commission.
(ii) The carrier frequency shall be within the bands listed below
and must be maintained within 0.005 percent of the frequency of
operation. Use on assigned channel center frequencies is not required.

30.85-30.87 MHz
30.89-30.91 MHz
30.93-30.95 MHz
30.97-30.99 MHz
31.01-31.03 MHz
31.05-31.07 MHz
31.09-31.11 MHz
31.13-31.15 MHz
31.17-31.19 MHz
31.21-31.23 MHz
31.25-31.27 MHz
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31.69-31.71 MHz
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31.89-31.91 MHz
31.93-31.95 MHz
31.97-32.00 MHz
33.00-33.03 MHz
33.05-33.07 MHz
33.41-34.00 MHz
37.00-37.43 MHz
37.89-38.00 MHz
39.00-40.00 MHz
42.00-42.91 MHz
44.61-45.91 MHz
45.93-45.95 MHz
45.97-45.99 MHz
46.01-46.03 MHz
46.05-46.60 MHz
47.00-47.41 MHz
150.995-151.490 MHz
153.740-154.445 MHz
154.635-155.195 MHz
155.415-156.250 MHz
158.715-159.465 MHz
453.0125-453.9875 MHz
458.0125-458.9875 MHz
460.0125-460.5125 MHz
460.5625-460.6375 MHz
462.9375-462.9875 MHz
465.0125-465.5125 MHz
465.5625-465.6375 MHz
467.9375-467.9875 MHz
 

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Seriously. That's probably the fourth time it's been posted. And it still is not the answer to the question.

To those who claim (in this very thread) that police can transmit on ANY frequency, please post the regulations which say that...

PLEASE don't repost the same thing that now mancow has put up. We've seen it. Clearly it does not say they can transmit on ANY frequency.
 

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No, it doesn't.

It says what it says. The answers are in the text. There's nothing to argue about.
 

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w8fcc said:
May be it should be Encrypted from people like you


Don't ya just love hams that get FCC in their vanity call and then think they are the FCC.

It's hillarious!!
 

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mancow said:
No, it doesn't.

It says what it says. The answers are in the text. There's nothing to argue about.

Not arguing, but there are people who say that police units can use any frequency at all. And then someone posts this very same part of the regulations, which clearly states they can't. Then someone else says "show me the proof that police can transmit on any frequency", then someone posts this very same part of the regulations, then...
 

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Really?

W9NES said:
Hello To All, I found Indianapolis Metro Police Northwest District along with IMPD Southwest last night using frequencies on 156Mhz which are to be used for Marine radio Traffic on the great lakes and down on the Ohio River.I also heard radio traffic on 155.685.*Can you meet me at 17Th and Main Street* If anyone in the Indianapolis area would like to hear these *Illegal Tac radio Channels* just set your scanner to search from 156-157Mhz and you will hear the radio traffic.No these are not images on my Bearcat 300 on my nightstand in the Master bedroom"!!! I will be posting these frequencies.Funny how IMPD gets to use"Illegal Marine VHF Frequencies" I thought those tac radios were taken out back when The Marion County Sheriffs Department was still doing Road patrol across Marion County when Sheriff Jack Cottey issued a order to all of the deputies on the road to "Pull or take out the Tac radios "

Hi all, I don't want to sound indifferent but I guess on this I sort of am. Really who cares. I have lived and traveled all around the country, being a ham and scanner hobbyist for over 35 years I can say I have heard the "police" all over the place.
Are they suppose to use these frequencies, clearly no, but then again they aren't used much for anything else.
If you or I were on the department we would probably use them too. I know tons of hams that "modify" every radio they own and transmit where they aren't "suppose" to.
No it doesn't make it right, but we need to choose our battles wisely.
I spent over a year and a half in Mississippi and New Orleans as a FEMA volunteer during Katrina and the storms before Katrina( 6 months in Florida before Katrina) and we were glad to have anything that transmitted.

I have heard the police on 2 meters before and on 440 in the amateur portion and lots of other places, as well as some unidentified "folks" in areas I know they aren't "suppose" to be transmitting in. Again, I have to say at first it bothered me, but then I thought, who cares does it really matter.
If you ever go to south Florida and listen you will hear that the police, fire and rescue all use amatuer "Q" signals on all transmission. The first time I heard them all saying "qsl" instead of 10-4 I was upset because I thought hey those are our signals not yours.
But later I was amused at it and grew to like it.
People tend to be so territorial and I'll admit me too at times.

I monitor hundreds, maybe thousands of frequencies. I hear amateurs every day violate just about every rule in the book, but again, who cares.

What bothers me more is the fact that amateur radio has tons of frequencies that sit unused. Repeaters around our state have gone out of service by the handsful and thats just repeaters on 2 mtr and 440. Not to mention all the other spectrum we have and don't use. We have all that, and it's just sitting most of the time not used. So really does it matter if a few cops talk on the 156.... marine frequencies to break up the monotony of the job, I think not. Were no where near water!

I don't take offense as I may have at one time, yea I had to get a license. I have a Extra class...took all the tests and passed morse code at 20wpm, and never used it, who cares.

In the grand scheme of things I believe it's a trivial item to discuss.
Just like most cops don't wear seat belts, most of them drive what ever speed they want to
I guess they can talk on those frequencies too, I won't lose any sleep over it, will you?
Really will you? Think about it! No one uses the marine freqs here anyway, very little to no traffic on them.

Besides like was previously said, it gives us something to listen to, lol.
 

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I'd like to know other stuff like can I use my new xts5000 I bought off ebay as a scanner or stuff like I bought a vrm and I have the software for zclient anybody interested lets talk? not to do any illeagel activity just like to talk to someone about programing my new xts5000 to scann. or even to program the vrm650 I have to work with the zclient program i have.
 

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kareem2o said:
I'd like to know other stuff like can I use my new xts5000 I bought off ebay as a scanner or stuff like I bought a vrm and I have the software for zclient anybody interested lets talk? not to do any illeagel activity just like to talk to someone about programing my new xts5000 to scann. or even to program the vrm650 I have to work with the zclient program i have.

vrm650 Aren't those 900MHz only. Which means for MECA they won't work. And It seems Motorola is discontinuing support for them as well.

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that's good them means I'll have good friends who'ed like to test' "Truth is" that"s what what we all do right?
 

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"This is fun to chat" We are the People. Hey W9ES I SEE NEWSALAN has a nice radio for a post pic. NEWSALAN EBAY OPP'S W9ES MY BAD FLEBAY ! "ANY WAY" I HOPE NOT I SHOP THERE... I'S A privilege to the community when it's used right to communicate; use youre skill to help others get qualified and then if the class is right IMPD "THINKBIG" MARION COUNTY/INDIANAPOLIS would listen to you. AND POSSIBILLY Take notes.
 

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kareem2o said:
"This is fun to chat" We are the People. Hey W9ES I SEE NEWSALAN has a nice radio for a post pic. NEWSALAN EBAY OPP'S W9ES MY BAD FLEBAY ! "ANY WAY" I HOPE NOT I SHOP THERE... I'S A privilege to the community when it's used right to communicate; use youre skill to help others get qualified and then if the class is right IMPD "THINKBIG" MARION COUNTY/INDIANAPOLIS would listen to you. AND POSSIBILLY Take notes.

I guess im not drinking enough to understand.
 

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Mayor Ballord being a retired Marine get him to sit in on it!!! Ask him does he have a FCC license if not he might like to update his license. Tac radios save people it kinda makes you feel like someones close; especially when I'm on the clock I gotta have ears around corner I probabily would ever look at it when I'm off the clock and plus as and IMPD officer should allways have a tac radio. as a tax payer "issued" to them. So what if the community can communicate with the officer. the officer would'nt have a choise but to introduce him/her selves. Opportunity to communicate with an officer when your on the clock or on your radio would be nice..I understand some officer are unlicensed but it's a relief to the officer it's a problem that could be easly fixed:
 

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"Hey kb9sxk" Hi all, I don't want to sound indifferent but I guess on this I sort of am. Really who cares. I have lived and traveled all around the country, being a ham and scanner hobbyist for over 35 years I can say I have heard the "police" all over the place.
Are they suppose to use these frequencies, clearly no, but then again they aren't used much for anything else.
If you or I were on the department we would probably use them too. I know tons of hams that "modify" every radio they own and transmit where they aren't "suppose" to.
 

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kareem2o said:
"Hey kb9sxk" Hi all, I don't want to sound indifferent but I guess on this I sort of am. Really who cares. I have lived and traveled all around the country, being a ham and scanner hobbyist for over 35 years I can say I have heard the "police" all over the place.
Are they suppose to use these frequencies, clearly no, but then again they aren't used much for anything else.
If you or I were on the department we would probably use them too. I know tons of hams that "modify" every radio they own and transmit where they aren't "suppose" to.

Hey, Im not that all worked up either....

It is just that you just have a very "interesting" writing style
 

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W9NES said:
Newsalan,Yes this is what we have been trying to tell everyone what is going on here.Thank You for waking up to the idea that now "IMPD is above the law and now they are using "Illegal radios" Duh? Now it is time to get something done about it instead of "Reading about it in the papers" Maybe the fcc needs to notified about this matter at hand along with Administration under the new mayor in Indianapolis/Marion County.Also the Public Safety Director needs to be informed with the City/County Council.


Tim, it has been a long time since I have turned on any radio , but the last time I was on the 700 late at night there were some officers from Indy on there ,(with valid calls) can they not be of assistance in relaying to these guys they need to stay off those frequencies ?
maybe they know who it is ?? maybe they could explain the rules and tell them someone is willing to take it to higher authorities if it doesn't stop ?
I imagine Richard even knows these guys quite well, maybe he could drop them a "hint" ?
thanks for the info though , I will now be listening
Marc
 
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