ISP Restructuring for 2023 Official Thread

[TGP]

Yup It's happening.
Also due to Staffing shortages Dist 13 is taking some of Dist 11 area and Dist.12 is also.
Dist 18 is moving South into 11.
Tom

 

[nick223]

I heard starting January 1st D17 and D7 are combining together, (So a D17 trooper zone assignment could be in the Quad Cities for his/her shift)
Also heard D21-11 are going to be referred as Troop A,B,C no more district numbers

 

[Mex]

I heard starting January 1st D17 and D7 are combining together, (So a D17 trooper zone assignment could be in the Quad Cities for his/her shift)
Also heard D21-11 are going to be referred as Troop A,B,C no more district numbers

Thanks for the info.

 

[werinshades]

Also heard D21-11 are going to be referred as Troop A,B,C no more district numbers

Is District-Chicago changing their call signs from C (Charles)? Troop C call sign would conflict if they're renaming districts?

 

[nick223]

Is District-Chicago changing their call signs from C (Charles)? Troop C call sign would conflict if they're renaming districts?

I’m not sure how it is all going to work out. I’ll see if I can get more information

 

[nick223]

Is District-Chicago changing their call signs from C (Charles)? Troop C call sign would conflict if they're renaming districts?

everything is changing call signs, car plates, radio channels ect... new district maps are out but cant be public yet, Zone 3 is being eliminated, Talked about like i said going to Troops A,B,C or Troops 1,2,3. alot of Disctrict 5 troopers trying to transfer because they dont want to work Chicago i also heard alot of grievances being filed by troopers to try and stop it the changes
Like in my area one patrol 2 troopers will be I-80 Seneca IL to Indiana state line, 2 troopers I-80 from Lasalle to Iowa state line.

There is so much crazy information i think i forgot half of it Its all a complete mess what the state is trying to do and no trooper is happy im told

 

[Mex]

everything is changing call signs, car plates, radio channels ect...

I hope the big E isn't part of it

 

[Mex]

Found some info on facebook regarding the upcoming changes. I don't think its very credible though.

Some districts will be moving towards "mega districts". District 16 will be moving to Chicago State Dispatch

Moving from 22 Districts to 11 Troops. Districts 2, 5, and Chicago is becoming the Metro Troop. All cars going to be replated as 3-###

Since 15 is self-funded they will be remaining the same.

 

[p25man123]

Is District-Chicago changing their call signs from C (Charles)? Troop C call sign would conflict if they're renaming districts?

Found some info on facebook regarding the upcoming changes. I don't think its very credible though.

Some districts will be moving towards "mega districts". District 16 will be moving to Chicago State Dispatch

Moving from 22 Districts to 11 Troops. Districts 2, 5, and Chicago is becoming the Metro Troop. All cars going to be replated as 3-###

^^^^

To add on what Mex said, I'm unsure for District 16 if they plan on transferring talkgroups over or if Chicago will be getting/giving them an unused talkgroup for them. Thus, it will expand the simulcast site range longer.

 

[werinshades]

Found some info on facebook regarding the upcoming changes. I don't think its very credible though.

Some districts will be moving towards "mega districts". District 16 will be moving to Chicago State Dispatch

Moving from 22 Districts to 11 Troops. Districts 2, 5, and Chicago is becoming the Metro Troop. All cars going to be replated as 3-###

Since 15 is self-funded they will be remaining the same.

^^^^

To add on what Mex said, I'm unsure for District 16 if they plan on transferring talkgroups over or if Chicago will be getting/giving them an unused talkgroup for them. Thus, it will expand the simulcast site range longer.

Can you post a link to the Facebook page/Group?

 

[Mex]

Can you post a link to the Facebook page/Group?

Will & DuPage County PD/FD Scanner

 

[TGP]

FYI
This is what I know about Dist. 13 Du Quoin

The Illinois State Police is currently restructuring the districts. On January 01, 2023, District 13 will become Troop 10 of the Illinois State Police. District 13 and District 22 will combine. In addition Troop 10 will add Saline and Gallatin Counties. Troop 10 will loose Washington County, which will join the Collinsville Troop.

 

[N9JIG]

Do we know to what extent things are due to change? Such as if they will close the Posts' buildings at (in this case) Ullin? Will dispatch be combined into each of the new Troops?

Around 25 years or so ago (long before StarCom21) there was another restructuring proposal that would have reduced the Districts to around 10, mostly by combining the Chicago area Posts (2,3,4,5 and maybe 15) into one and then there would have been a half dozen or so posts for the rest of the state. The only things that happened with that was the merger of 3 & 4 into District Chicago and I think the relocation of dispatch for 18 to 11.

 

[werinshades]

The only things that happened with that was the merger of 3 & 4 into District Chicago

...which allowed Illinois Lottery machines to be placed at the airports. Very odd time..

 

[N9JIG]

...which allowed Illinois Lottery machines to be placed at the airports. Very odd time..

That was also due to the takeover of Chicago expressway coverage by the ISP around the time as well. I think the merger of Districts 3 & 4 followed that.

Many years ago (1970's) they attempted a merger of Districts 3 & 4 as well, making it "District 17" for a short period. They temporarily housed "State Police Des Plaines" at the old 477 S. River Road facility then used by DCI and then the ICC police. AFAIK only the District Commanders offices moved to River Road. They never closed the two separate posts (Harlem & Irving and Crestwood) and shortly thereafter reverted back to separate Districts 3 and 4. The details are a bit fuzzy from the passing of time but ISTR that they never changed radio numbers or made any substantive changes.

Until the 1970's (some of these lasted into the 80's) the ISP had several "Sub-Posts", basically a remote office of the main post with a lessor rank in command, answering to the main post. They usually had their own dispatcher, but I think they remained on the same freq as the main post in many if not all of them. Eventually all of the Sub-Posts gained full Post status and moved onto their own channels. It appears that this reorganization might reverse this and re-merge some of the old Sub Posts into their former parents.

The Sub-Posts I can recall are:

Rockford (Pecotonica), was 1A, now 16
LaSalle was 5A (Peru) and is now 17
Litchfield was 11A, and is now 18
Carmi was 12A and is now 19. (Was 12A located at Fairfield before Carmi?)
Pittsfield was 14A and is now 20.
Ashkum was 6A and is now 21
Ullin was 13A at Cairo, and is now 22. 13A was the last remaining ISP Sub Post and moved up to Ullin in the mid 1980's when it became 22.

 

[VASCAR2]

The 12A Post was in Albion then the State purchased property west of Carmi on Illinois Route 14 and created District 19.

When ISP pushed to get a trunked communication network I knew it would be just a matter of time before communication consolidation occurred. The same thing has happened in many other large jurisdictions/states. Indiana State Police and Wisconsin Highway Patrol have both consolidated to very few dispatch centers.

It sounds like the current buildings in Ullen and Carmi will be occupied for evidence storage and maybe some training. The District boundaries have been in contention for years by the bean counters. Having a patrol car in one District five miles from a call where the assigned District patrol car is 1.5-2 hours away seems to waste resources. From a District perspective where stats are scrutinized you cut your own throat by having to send resources out of the District. This is one reason District Commanders were in favor of state wide Tactical teams. The Districts didn’t want personnel on their TO without being able to control their scheduling and assignment. With the current radios having location tracking and CAD there is a belief by Command safety isn’t compromised by regional dispatching.

The prior ISP downsizing efforts were opposed by the small counties where Troopers helped carry the work load. Generally ISP upper command doesn’t like having to utilize resources for anything that isn’t their pet project or priority.

It appears the ISP upper command is full steam ahead on consolidation at the disdain of the employee unions and affected personnel.

 

[werinshades]

Heard District-5 troopers no longer have a patrol assignment (Patrol 7?), which encompasses Interstate 57 in Will County as of yesterday. Dispatcher was told on the radio that is now District-21's patrol and she replied "We're still getting used to all these changes".

As I mentioned earlier, District 5 took over District-Chicago's S(Sam)-7 patrol assignment which encompasses Interstate 80 from the Interstates 94/294/394 interchange to the State Line and the entire Interstate 394 expressway. District-Chicago is still dispatching them.

 

[FFPM571]

Heard District-5 troopers no longer have a patrol assignment (Patrol 7?), which encompasses Interstate 57 in Will County as of yesterday. Dispatcher was told on the radio that is now District-21's patrol and she replied "We're still getting used to all these changes".

As I mentioned earlier, District 5 took over District-Chicago's S(Sam)-7 patrol assignment which encompasses Interstate 80 from the Interstates 94/294/394 interchange to the State Line and the entire Interstate 394 expressway. District-Chicago is still dispatching them.

So D21 is Coming all the way up to the south border of Cook?

 

[werinshades]

So D21 is Coming all the way up to the south border of Cook?

Yes...per what I heard last night.

 

[Mex]

when do you think a new ISP district boundary map will be available ?

It's probably out there, just hasn't been shared yet.

I've been drawing one with all the info I've found on this thread and the other thread. It's not much but this is what we know so far: