ISP Restructuring for 2023 Official Thread

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Districts 1 and 16 are now one district and all are operating on 1-A (It was typically patched with 16-A). And District 17 is no longer on 17-A. I'm not hearing them on District 5, 6, 7 or 8 . District 2 seems to have switched, not sure where. Only I-290 units are working on 2-A.
 

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Heard District-5 troopers no longer have a patrol assignment (Patrol 7?), which encompasses Interstate 57 in Will County as of yesterday. Dispatcher was told on the radio that is now District-21's patrol and she replied "We're still getting used to all these changes".

As I mentioned earlier, District 5 took over District-Chicago's S(Sam)-7 patrol assignment which encompasses Interstate 80 from the Interstates 94/294/394 interchange to the State Line and the entire Interstate 394 expressway. District-Chicago is still dispatching them.
Districts 1 and 16 are now one district and all are operating on 1-A (It was typically patched with 16-A). And District 17 is no longer on 17-A. I'm not hearing them on District 5, 6, 7 or 8 . District 2 seems to have switched, not sure where. Only I-290 units are working on 2-A.

It sounds as if changes have begun.
 

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At one time MANY years ago when I tested for the ISP I was told that they assigned troopers to specific counties, mostly due to the need for court assignments and paperwork for the specific county of assignment. Once assigned to a county the trooper had to live within that county or a specific distance from it. Since the class I was offered in only had openings for Districts 2, 3 and 4, I turned down the offer as I wanted to move downstate (preferably District 8 where I had family property I could build on in Varna). By the time a class for other Districts opened up I was firmly ensconced where I ended up for 30+ years.

These days I don't know if this is the case or not. Is it? Are Troopers assigned to specific Counties? How does this affect District assignments these days?
 

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This thread will merge the discussion over the proposed/ in-progress/rumored/etc. restructuring of the ISP supposed to take place in 2023 that might be already happening with realigned patrols and Posts being merged into Troops.

I have selected posts from a variety of threads discussing this and brought them here.
 

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At one time MANY years ago when I tested for the ISP I was told that they assigned troopers to specific counties, mostly due to the need for court assignments and paperwork for the specific county of assignment. Once assigned to a county the trooper had to live within that county or a specific distance from it. Since the class I was offered in only had openings for Districts 2, 3 and 4, I turned down the offer as I wanted to move downstate (preferably District 8 where I had family property I could build on in Varna). By the time a class for other Districts opened up I was firmly ensconced where I ended up for 30+ years.

These days I don't know if this is the case or not. Is it? Are Troopers assigned to specific Counties? How does this affect District assignments these days?

The Illinois State Police is an Agency of perpetual change. It is not uncommon for changes to be implemented with a change in Directors or upper command. It is fairly common to reverse course to doing the way things were done in the past. The bureaucratic maze never seems to get smaller and the trend is to control everything from the top is very prevalent.

If you look at the newly implemented Troop boundaries, they are very similar to the way the ISP districts were configured prior to getting sub post or additional districts. I remember when there were thirteen districts but the current use of STARCOM and IWIN with CAD, I could see fewer geographic Troops/Districts. One thing which is unlikely to change is the geographic size of the State of Illinois. With limited man power resources it becomes difficult to staff large geographical areas. Going to larger geographic area Troops results in longer commute times for travel to assigned patrols or assignments. Additionally the time required to travel to distant counties for court or assignment affects available manpower and response times.

The State of Illinois is not known for utilizing resources wisely and political decisions rarely have the best interest of the citizens as the goal.

The policy whether written or utilized within a work group frequently changes as to required residency and the distance to your work assignment. The current situation is very difficult because of the Safe-T law, politics and proposed structural changes within the ISP. There are so many unknowns for the employees no wonder there is very little information known to the public.
 

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I heard them on 17-A as well. Also heard D-6 troopers dispatched on 8-A.

This isn't unusual anymore as many Districts are assisting other Districts with traffic missions. Troopers from outside districts have been working District-Chicago since last year. I hear Tollway District-15 working in District 5 frequently.
 

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Troop 3 will be District-Chicago, Districts 2 & 5 . New code plugs have encryption capabilities, unknown of future usage. Scheduled changeover 1-1-2023. Info from a D-Chicago (soon to be Troop 3) trooper.

Troops are aligning as close to possible as the dispatch centers with a few variations.
 
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D-15 will remain as it's own district as it is funded by the Tollway...

Districts Chicago, 2 & 5 will merge and be designated as 3-###.

District 16 will be dispatched by Des Plaines (D-Chicago).

As far as the rest that will be merging (22 districts down to 11) I don't have that information. Yet
 

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D-15 will remain as it's own district as it is funded by the Tollway...

Districts Chicago, 2 & 5 will merge and be designated as 3-###.

District 16 will be dispatched by Des Plaines (D-Chicago).

As far as the rest that will be merging (22 districts down to 11) I don't have that information. Yet

Is the "soon to be old" District 16 becoming part of Troop 3 confirmed, or will they be part of "the soon to be old" District 7/17 Troop 1/2 since they're all dispatched by Sterling?
 

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Talked with a local sheriff (who used to be a trooper) last night. He said Washington County WILL be moving to Collinsville and that will be Troop 8. District 13 is supposed to Troop 9, Southerner Illinois will be Troop 10. But like it's been said, we'll know more when we see a map. And, yes, it is supposed to happen Jan. 1.
 

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With these districts becoming larger, there are more STARCOM tower sites that will be utilized for radio traffic. For example, the tower at the east end of District 17 in Streator and Congerville (south in D-8) will probably being carrying traffic from the Quad-Cities area now. That will tie up more resources on the system, as some towers are "hardwired" so the radio signals in these areas are saturated. Is ISP also making the move to Phase 2 radios?
 

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With these districts becoming larger, there are more STARCOM tower sites that will be utilized for radio traffic. For example, the tower at the east end of District 17 in Streator and Congerville (south in D-8) will probably being carrying traffic from the Quad-Cities area now. That will tie up more resources on the system, as some towers are "hardwired" so the radio signals in these areas are saturated. Is ISP also making the move to Phase 2 radios?

I would suspect the current channel schemes will be updated and the same traffic will be carried with different names and different radio signatures.
 

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I'm just referring to system resources, doesn't matter what they will be called. The tower site in Streator already carries traffic for D-17, D-5, D-6, and D-8, now you're adding D-7 to that and maybe D-2? That's quite a bit of airtime.....
 

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I would suspect the current channel schemes will be updated and the same traffic will be carried with different names and different radio signatures.
I'm just referring to system resources, doesn't matter what they will be called. The tower site in Streator already carries traffic for D-17, D-5, D-6, and D-8, now you're adding D-7 to that and maybe D-2? That's quite a bit of airtime.....

I'm sure it's been well thought out, and Phase 2 talkgroups are probably in the future. The DuPage and Cook County simulcast sites carry alot of traffic including many Districts outside of the normal area affiliate with these sites, and the traffic is handled. The site probably isn't being used near it's capacity, and plenty of room for additional traffic.
 

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I'm sure it's been well thought out, and Phase 2 talkgroups are probably in the future. The DuPage and Cook County simulcast sites carry alot of traffic including many Districts outside of the normal area affiliate with these sites, and the traffic is handled. The site probably isn't being used near it's capacity, and plenty of room for additional traffic.

IDK, how much capacity does it have w/ only 6 freqs listed, and 2 of those being labeled as possible CC's?

And by "well thought out" you mean comm techs ripping their hair out & waking up in cold sweats over how to make this all work on a system they never wanted in the first place?
 
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