I have a Radio Shack PRO-106 and have programmed the APCO 25 system and frequencies. I get alot of "garbled" transmissions. I hear that I need a different type of scanner (PRE-800)? Are there any other suggestions? Thanks.
Jacksonville Fl. Scanning Issues
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shadcall
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I believe police and fire are encrpyted.
pawsrock
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Jacksonville FL
You can now hear almost nothing
I would suggest you do not buy a PSR 800 because, you will not hear anything different. I have a PRO 2096 and a PSR 800 and I think sometimes I hear more on my 2096 than the 800 Some people may feel different but, I would say do not spend money on a PSR 800
Ron Fone
You can now hear almost nothing
I would suggest you do not buy a PSR 800 because, you will not hear anything different. I have a PRO 2096 and a PSR 800 and I think sometimes I hear more on my 2096 than the 800 Some people may feel different but, I would say do not spend money on a PSR 800Ron Fone
According to the database a lot of the talkgroups are encrypted, and also Motorola X2 TDMA is in use which will require a PSR800 in order to monitor.
When I lived in St Augustine area. I was able to pick up them up on my 396xt I heard FD Dispatch and some other channels they were both mixed ENC and P25. But JSO and other PD's are ENC
Thanks everyone for the replies. Is there anything on the horizon that will be able to monitor these encrypted signals?
No, never. It is impossible now and forevermore to hear encryption.
YES, there will be. There are a bunch of scanner hobbyists who are going straight to washington DC to end this encryption bullcrap.
Too many citizens are getting riled up about the JAX situation
Always fear a person with 11 posts to his credit who has no idea what they are talking about...
ahh, but that's where you are wrong my friend. YES, there are people who are indeed going to the FCC about this encryption fiasco because that is where you are supposed to start at.
If you don't know already, there is a Facebook group/page dealing with the encryption issue right here in Florida.
I do know what I am talking about, HOWEVER, never assume or tell anybody that they don't know what they are talking about.
I have seen myself people stating wrong info about this RR/Broadcastify fiasco since Lindsey posted the announcement. IMHO, you people are barking up the wrong tree when you fuss, yes fuss, over the monetary issue of running a feed.
Have you ever thought about your other "ham equipment" and how much that costs to run????? Didn't think so.
My point is this: Don't fuss about the small things if your doing the bigger things, like Ham radios, that cost more.
Have a good night.
Egulley321 Out.
The FCC is not going to stop encryption,
And I have no idea what this has to do with streaming. Obviously given ScannerLive's success, I love streaming!
And I have no idea what this has to do with streaming. Obviously given ScannerLive's success, I love streaming!
shadcall
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In a post 9/11 world encryption is here to stay. I seriously doubt that a bunch of scanner enthusiasts protesting it is going to make any difference. I wonder if they rode in on the black helicopters? JAX uses encryption for some departments and talkgroups and that is just a way of life.
I don't think you understand exactly what I am saying. The govt has overstepped it's boundaries and encryption is one thing. There is a HUGE, HUGE safety issue not only for these agencies, but also for the general public.
already sopa and dnaa have been trashed because of the people, so what makes you think that we don't stand a chance against encryption???
I have spent nearly all of my life(started when i was 18) listening to scanners/hams, etc. and this encryption BS and the reasons given for it are all just a bunch of LIES.
I am going to be brutally blunt here, There is talk of making the ham bands encrypted and taken away from the GP.
This has been going around since JAX encrypted here along with Orlando.
None of you can realize or understand that YES, you have a voice and you need to start using it instead of allowing these agencies and govt walk all over you.
a lot of people, like you, want to accept what the govt tells you as being fact, well, it's not fact and as soon as you people stand up for your rights, you will see changes made.
I am seeing problems with all the current radio systems out there that operate with encryption capability(opensky, provoice, etc.)
If this continues, agencies won't have a choice but to switch back to the 100's and 400's.
Bottom line, stop accepting this as final and start making your voices heard.
I'd like to make my voice heard but I wouldn't be standing anywhere near you as you march into the FCC's offices spouting this nonsense.
Ham bands being made encrypted? Give me a break. Show me some credible proof.
Problems with encrypted systems causing agencies to fall back to 100's and 400's? What about all the encrypted systems on those bands? Where are they going to fall back to? The 30's and 40's?
BTW, if you've been scanning that long surely you would realize that the 100's and 400's are more commonly known as VHF and UHF.
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LOL! Mike, I am 41, i ain't that stupid.
as far as the credible proof, i can't give it to you because it's TALK as i said in my previous message.
And, are you for real????? You are sitting there telling me that going to the FCC is nonsense???? No, it is not nonsense because that is where it all starts. and I might remind you of the GPS fiasco that is still going on right now.
In the GPS fiasco, there hasn't been one shred of evidence shown publicly that there will be interference from lightsquared.
It's all talk.
I suggest you take a look around you and see that the govt is losing on several key issues.
what I am trying to say is this in regards to the Broadcastify/ RR issue: If you guys are running ham radios and equipment as well as scanning feeds, then you have no reason to fuss about there being fees because i am 100% sure that running ham equipment costs more than the fees charged at Broadcastify.
I have been commenting because i am tired of seeing people destroy the hobby over BS nonsense like the fee issue. I have found out that every OOP scanner out there can and will still be updated from the database for FREE via the programs that update it. (oop being object oriented programming)
I have seen people claim maliciously that updates will no longer be free and that is a crock of crap. If that was the case than the present scanners should not be sold and taken off the shelves of stores that sell them.
Come on, use some common sense(although i don't believe there is such a thing, because we don't have equal senses or views about things)
LOL! Mike, I am 41, i ain't that stupid.
as far as the credible proof, i can't give it to you because it's TALK as i said in my previous message.
And, are you for real????? You are sitting there telling me that going to the FCC is nonsense???? No, it is not nonsense because that is where it all starts. and I might remind you of the GPS fiasco that is still going on right now.
In the GPS fiasco, there hasn't been one shred of evidence shown publicly that there will be interference from lightsquared.
It's all talk.
I suggest you take a look around you and see that the govt is losing on several key issues.
what I am trying to say is this in regards to the Broadcastify/ RR issue: If you guys are running ham radios and equipment as well as scanning feeds, then you have no reason to fuss about there being fees because i am 100% sure that running ham equipment costs more than the fees charged at Broadcastify.
I have been commenting because i am tired of seeing people destroy the hobby over BS nonsense like the fee issue. I have found out that every OOP scanner out there can and will still be updated from the database for FREE via the programs that update it. (oop being object oriented programming)
I have seen people claim maliciously that updates will no longer be free and that is a crock of crap. If that was the case than the present scanners should not be sold and taken off the shelves of stores that sell them.
Come on, use some common sense(although i don't believe there is such a thing, because we don't have equal senses or views about things)
It doesn't cost me a penny to use my ham equipment.
And it's not encrypted.
I wish you luck in your protest.
And it's not encrypted.
I wish you luck in your protest.
What I don't understand is the bickering between people who are supposedly on the same "team." In my opinion... doing something, even if it seems futile, is better than doing nothing. I find the "government is going to do what they want to do and there's nothing we can do about it" view of things... pretty freaking sad.
I like the reference to SOPA. Protests online and in-the-flesh by corporations and people like you and I convinced many of the same politicians who drafted the bill to abandon it. If people just bent over and took it willingly, the internet would have changed forever. The problem is not enough people care about radio encryption to really make a difference, yet. Perhaps that can change.
I'm absolutely sure with the power the media has, they could really put the issue on the table for the masses. Personally, if I ran a television station or media outlet, I would be obligated to remain impartial and cover all candidates. But I would refuse to run ads for candidates who supported encryption of routine dispatch channels, including those running for sheriff.
I'm actually quite disappointed that the media in Jax didn't do very much to save one of the most important tools of news gathering and government accountability. In Tampa... for the most part... police and fire departments don't send press releases unless the event received media inquiries. Many times the release can be delayed hours after the incident occurred.
Now, in Jax... since the media can't inquire on radio traffic they can't hear... they (A) pray some witness reports something more detailed than "lots of flashy lights on 23rd Street" or (B) pray for a timely press release (LOL), written by a representative from that agency, who now can decide what events are newsworthy.
"Beat checks" are useless. Beat checks are when media makes a phone call to an agency a few times a day. I was a police dispatcher for an agency near Tampa and one of the SOP's in our manual can be paraphrased as follows: if a member of the press makes an inquiry like "is anything going on?" You aren't legally required to tell them about any events in the city. The only exception is if the question is specific like "what's the address of the homicide you're working on the east side?"
When I was in training, I was asked if "anything was going on" by a member of the media and I did give information on an event (incident type, address, time, basic details, and if units were still on scene). Since the department did not prohibit releasing that information, I did. After the call ended I was reprimanded by my trainer and word spread around that I was a liability risk. From there on out I had to basically lie by omission to my colleagues. One of the reasons I resigned and I'm glad I'm working in the media again.
All this sounds great right?
I like the reference to SOPA. Protests online and in-the-flesh by corporations and people like you and I convinced many of the same politicians who drafted the bill to abandon it. If people just bent over and took it willingly, the internet would have changed forever. The problem is not enough people care about radio encryption to really make a difference, yet. Perhaps that can change.
I'm absolutely sure with the power the media has, they could really put the issue on the table for the masses. Personally, if I ran a television station or media outlet, I would be obligated to remain impartial and cover all candidates. But I would refuse to run ads for candidates who supported encryption of routine dispatch channels, including those running for sheriff.
I'm actually quite disappointed that the media in Jax didn't do very much to save one of the most important tools of news gathering and government accountability. In Tampa... for the most part... police and fire departments don't send press releases unless the event received media inquiries. Many times the release can be delayed hours after the incident occurred.
Now, in Jax... since the media can't inquire on radio traffic they can't hear... they (A) pray some witness reports something more detailed than "lots of flashy lights on 23rd Street" or (B) pray for a timely press release (LOL), written by a representative from that agency, who now can decide what events are newsworthy.
"Beat checks" are useless. Beat checks are when media makes a phone call to an agency a few times a day. I was a police dispatcher for an agency near Tampa and one of the SOP's in our manual can be paraphrased as follows: if a member of the press makes an inquiry like "is anything going on?" You aren't legally required to tell them about any events in the city. The only exception is if the question is specific like "what's the address of the homicide you're working on the east side?"
When I was in training, I was asked if "anything was going on" by a member of the media and I did give information on an event (incident type, address, time, basic details, and if units were still on scene). Since the department did not prohibit releasing that information, I did. After the call ended I was reprimanded by my trainer and word spread around that I was a liability risk. From there on out I had to basically lie by omission to my colleagues. One of the reasons I resigned and I'm glad I'm working in the media again.
All this sounds great right?
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