LMRN General Discussion

exkalibur

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It still boggles my mind that we're spending $765 million on this project when we could be selecting something more affordable from another vendor. There must be a better product on the market that would have given us better, quicker and easier use.
It's a province wide system with lord knows how many radios. What would you suggest be more affordable? Harris, Kenwood, etc wouldn't be any less.
 

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I have logged almost 17000 different radio id's in zone 1 from my location
I think a lot more of us will be logging RID's on LMRN. We may not be able to hear the fun and games but we can figure out what unit it on the air and what detachment it is from.
 

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I think a lot more of us will be logging RID's on LMRN. We may not be able to hear the fun and games but we can figure out what unit it on the air and what detachment it is from.
Logging the control channel data to a Web/Cloud Database from many different sites simultaneously would be pretty cool.
While the coverage of a site is fairly coarse geographic resolution, it would be possible to track specialized units roam across the province via registration messages on sites.
It's not unlike what intelligence agencies do with metadata logging.
 

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Marathon OPP still are using the old Tait radios.

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March 30th, Southern Georgian Bay
Are the portables VHF+700/800, or why do they have the NAR6594 dual band antenna on the APX?

Edit: Actually, looking at APX antenna ordering options, it seems that if you want 700 MHz, Moto only has 2 antennas for 700 MHz, either GPS/VHF/700/800 or GPS/UHF/700/800. Many more options if you want 800 only.



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Are you sure that's dual band? There was another picture on their X feed (Nottawasaga detachment?) which clearly shows the antenna to be tri-band. This leads me to believe they have all band APX8K's.

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From what I heard, Motorola is supplying the tri-band antennas on all the new hardware. My guess is it's a cost cutting thing by making one" do all" antenna and solve customer ordering the correct "band" issues.

No one has actually confirmed the OPP portable model yet. MOH is APX6000BN 700/800 band.
 

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Are you sure that's dual band? There was another picture on their X feed (Nottawasaga detachment?) which clearly shows the antenna to be tri-band. This leads me to believe they have all band APX8K's.

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You're right that photo clearly shows V/U/7-8 GPS which is very obviously VHF, UHF, 700-800 and GPS.
I was looking at the Motorola Solutions Accessory Catalog, and was looking at the frequencies support by various antennas.
I missed the "All Band Antenna" because I searched for 700 MHz and only found two antennas.

BTW, the all band antenna is part number KT000026A01 and its what normally comes on the APX8000 all band portable.
 

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They are the standard antenna now shipped with any APX portable. Or they were the last time I received new hardware.
 

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Yes I've seen a lot of docs etc that refer to it as LMRN (Land Mobile Radio Network). Maybe PSRN is a subset of LMRN, or vice versa. Or the project name changed at some point and the old name just didn't totally go away.
 

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Yes I've seen a lot of docs etc that refer to it as LMRN (Land Mobile Radio Network). Maybe PSRN is a subset of LMRN, or vice versa. Or the project name changed at some point and the old name just didn't totally go away.

It's mixed in a few places - even the news release called it the PSRN in the title, then referred to it as LMRN later on in the text.
 

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Yes I've seen a lot of docs etc that refer to it as LMRN (Land Mobile Radio Network). Maybe PSRN is a subset of LMRN, or vice versa. Or the project name changed at some point and the old name just didn't totally go away.
A few years ago, when the province was trying to centralize IT, they had a central IT shop and various IT Clusters of ministries.
Terms like Government Mobile Communications Office (GMCO) and Government Mobile Communications Branch (GMCB).

I think we can depend on the Ontario Government to be constantly reorganizing, constantly changing the names of things, and to be constantly searching for something better that also won't last for long.
 

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I see OPP is testing off Charlton some kind of push button... Talkgroup OPS38? -- I'm getting a very poor decode... anyone else see this activity? it began around 1:50pm ET.
 
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