patin
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LACO FIRE added 4 dispatch frequency digital VVFIRE21 is active
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LACO FIRE added 4 dispatch frequency digital VVFIRE21 is active
You probably will find success with Oat Mountain, but a UHF signal for Lancaster will be blocked by the western edge of the San Gabriel Mountains. Most of the Palmdale/Lancaster area is carried by an electronic site on Hauser Peak, which is higher than anything else in the the valley area of the north county, but is low as compared to the San Gabriel Mtns.
Can confirm these patches are active (of course only when someone is affiliated with the site). 1067 was active on Downtown 700 tonight, clear audio, much better than what I hear over on the UHF freqs from my location.
I would honestly love to see every channel patched over, but then again it’s likely not going to be used by anyone but the admin side so not worth the trouble.
patin
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The UHF COUNTYWIDE is terrible the other DISPATCH freq come in better ( CARSON)
Hello Friends!
Just curious how some of you feel about the future monitoring opportunities of the LA-RICS system as it expands and completes. With the Big E always being an issue and on our minds, do we feel that there will always be enough in the clear to make it an enjoyable system to monitor or how concerned should we be? Thoughts?
Thanks!
Just curious how some of you feel about the future monitoring opportunities of the LA-RICS system as it expands and completes. With the Big E always being an issue and on our minds, do we feel that there will always be enough in the clear to make it an enjoyable system to monitor or how concerned should we be? Thoughts?
Thanks!
speedway_navigator
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Does the SU send a message when it turns off so the site knows it no longer needs to TX that TG traffic?
Engine104
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The "Big E", is what it is...LASD is the main reason most of us would want to monitor LA-RICS, and at this point, all of the L-TACS, A-TACS, etc are encrypted. Dispatch is supposed to remain in the clear for now. Dispatch is being simulcast on UHF so far. I mainly monitor LACoFD and they have taken over many conventional UHF frequencies that formerly belonged to the Sheriffs. I'm not rushing to buy a Phase-2 capable scanner until I see what is happening with the Ventura Co TRS.
From my brief observations, yes. The S-meter on the display gives it away. For example, change talkgroup: *TX*, turn radio on *TX*, turn radio off *TX*... then shuts off.
monitor142
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Yes it does, if powered down properly. It won't help if a battery dies on a portable or a mobile loses power if a battery timer shuts things down.
Well, what are you trying to listen to?
90%+ of the traffic on the system is going to be encrypted
You can only hear the non-encrypted traffic. If you look at the Mode column in the database here, "DE" means the talkgroup is completely encrypted, "De" means both encrypted and non-encrypted traffic may be heard, and "D" means it's all non-encrypted. There's not much non-encrypted traffic.
1006 ($3EE) was patched from County Fire dispatch as of a couple months ago.
1006 ($3EE) was patched from County Fire dispatch as of a couple months ago.
Yes I’m trying to listen monitor sheriff dispatch so according to this that is D which is digital not encrypted. Yet I don’t hear anything even though on Analog I hear audio something isn’t right but I dunno what !?
LASD primary dispatch is still over on UHF. LA-RICS is used as an alternative option for dispatch talkgroups only at this point.
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What about LACoFD ?!
Engine104
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I think their use of the LA-RICS system is minimal. They are primarily on UHF, using theirs, and former LASD frequencies. Please check the database on here for the specifics.
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So is LASD just going to stay on UHF Analog for Dispatch another maybe a year or so? Wonder when they are going migrate Dispatch over. I think if dispatch is in the clear all the mobiles will be encrypted. Same concept as they have on UHF Analog with the birdie tones.
Have Dispatch on one talk group and the mobiles on the next talk group below each LASD station. I can see LASD doing this dispatch maybe in the clear and keep on having their mobiles stay locked down. I can see this approach unless I am wrong. It would make sense but The LASD is still over on Analog and L-TAC's been on LA-RICS for like a year or so now. You would think dispatch would do the cutover soon unless their are some technical difficulties Motorola is still working thru. Just do not know.
Wonder if there is any in sight to when dispatch would eventually cutover? LACOFD make the most bold move and stay on Analog UHF-2. Best decision ever made for a big fire department to want to stay on UHF-2 Analog. I bet it just works so beautiful too.
Engine104
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Good post. I was wondering the same thing about why LASD Dispatch hadn't moved over yet. I remember when LAPD moved to their digital uHF system, then kept the old VHF Hotshot channel (154.830, I think it was) going for a long while.
I applaud LACoFD's decision to take over LASD conventional UHF freqs. It seems to be working well. I hope the Ventura CoFD does the same when their new TRS is ready to go.
I applaud LACoFD's decision to take over LASD conventional UHF freqs. It seems to be working well. I hope the Ventura CoFD does the same when their new TRS is ready to go.
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If I was making decisions when it comes to staying on VHF High Band Analog and UHF-2 High Band in Analog I would raise my hand in a heart beat. Keep it simple and those bands in Analog UHF and VHF are so reliable and pierce dead spot areas that 700/800 trunking can't hit sometimes. Also, still having a zone or two for LA-RICS will be good too. But your main zones on your radio stay in Analog and re purpose some analog frequencies from the pool and its a good solid bet for the long run. Also, LACOFD covers the waters from Long Beach and Los Angeles ports to Catalina and maybe farther out. LA City is still on 800 mhz Analog too covering those waters too.
Nice solid decision making so far. Also, with interops and the quad band 8000 and the quad band NEXT you have all interops and other systems loaded with Trunking and all the other analog frequencies needed like Maritime VHF analog. Perfect. Coast Guard frequencies too
Honestly you have to give LACOFD big KUDOS for this move. It was in their best interest and whoever had this decision power and making is a very smart man or women. But still have access to LA-RICS as a secondary resort or as needed. Perfect. Quad Bands with VHF Tacs too. FPP for strike teams on the fly as a zone most likely. No more Bendix needed anymore. Everyone can do their comm plan in an FPP dedicated Zone with a sheet that is handed to each member. Do it yourself on the fly.
Nice solid decision making so far. Also, with interops and the quad band 8000 and the quad band NEXT you have all interops and other systems loaded with Trunking and all the other analog frequencies needed like Maritime VHF analog. Perfect. Coast Guard frequencies too
Honestly you have to give LACOFD big KUDOS for this move. It was in their best interest and whoever had this decision power and making is a very smart man or women. But still have access to LA-RICS as a secondary resort or as needed. Perfect. Quad Bands with VHF Tacs too. FPP for strike teams on the fly as a zone most likely. No more Bendix needed anymore. Everyone can do their comm plan in an FPP dedicated Zone with a sheet that is handed to each member. Do it yourself on the fly.
Los Angeles County goes to the backside of San Clemente, which is a part of Los Angeles County. Just that the island is owned by the Navy so not much need to go on the island itself.
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