McKenzie PD?

[03msc]

are all 'exclusively' (a few analog CCVFD handhelds and several analog pagers) using DMR Tier III (with analog VHF and UHF gateway for everything except EMR) until we switch to TACN.

Thanks. Glad to know I'm not crazy as I knew I was hearing them on DMR regardless of what he db said before. Of course, I know the admins had simply updated what had been submitted. Unfortunately, sometimes people submit things as if they are fact when they are, in fact, not.

Yeah, db updates are usually pretty quick as RR has solid db admins who don't let submissions pile up.

 

[tbzep]

Yeah, db updates are usually pretty quick as RR has solid db admins who don't let submissions pile up.

I was 121st in line!

 

[03msc]

I was 121st in line!

I don't know for sure but I think that's the global list whereas each admin handles certain areas so the admit covering TN (or that part of TN or however they have it divided) may have only had a few. I've noticed the big number before, as well, but it doesn't seem to be an accurate reflection of the whole process. Maybe. At least how I've interpreted it.

 

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Carroll County Fire is now live on TACN in limited capacity. Radio installation in apparatus has begun, handhelds will go out at some point after all apparatus is done. Gateways for VHF analog and Tait DMR are active. Vintage scanner buffs will get to keep using their vintage gear and folks with digital scanners won't have to change DMR talkgroups over to P25 any time soon if they don't want to. I don't know when CCSO will switch, but I assume it will be as soon as fire is complete and bug free. McKenzie and Huntingdon Fire/PD will switch at some point, but but I'm not sure when. Bruceton Fire is sticking with DMR. I recommend they sell a few kidneys and switch over based on how well the system performed this evening...well, it's after midnight, so yesterday).

 

[03msc]

Carroll County Fire is now live on TACN in limited capacity. Radio installation in apparatus has begun, handhelds will go out at some point after all apparatus is done. Gateways for VHF analog and Tait DMR are active. Vintage scanner buffs will get to keep using their vintage gear and folks with digital scanners won't have to change DMR talkgroups over to P25 any time soon if they don't want to. I don't know when CCSO will switch, but I assume it will be as soon as fire is complete and bug free. McKenzie and Huntingdon Fire/PD will switch at some point, but but I'm not sure when. Bruceton Fire is sticking with DMR. I recommend they sell a few kidneys and switch over based on how well the system performed this evening...well, it's after midnight, so yesterday).

Thanks for the update! Definitely appreciate the information and insight.

 

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I messed with the radio this evening. CCSO is still using Tait DMR radios, but the gateway to TACN is up and working. This more or less confirms what i thought, that county fire would be the guinea pigs and get the system sorted out so that the SO should be able to quickly swap out radios and get up and running smoothly.

 

[INDY72]

Fire is usually always first so they can work out any bugs with SCBA's and audio issues, after the techs do the "range" testing. (The usual "Can you hear me now?" or "Standing five count, 1... 2... 3... 4...5. 5... 4... 3... 2... 1." Though some areas use the poetry method too. (Quick Brown Fox etc...)

 

[tbzep]

Fire is usually always first so they can work out any bugs with SCBA's and audio issues, after the techs do the "range" testing. (The usual "Can you hear me now?" or "Standing five count, 1... 2... 3... 4...5. 5... 4... 3... 2... 1." Though some areas use the poetry method too. (Quick Brown Fox etc...)

Lol, we are a rural county. Bluetooth SCBA's are futuristic Sci-Fi to us. I have long expired wire frame Scott 2.2's (I have a couple of no-frills X3's from a grant as well). If not for the LEO side getting the radio system pushed forward, we would still be using phone tree paging and CB radios like we did back in the 70's.

 

[buddrousa]

Your departments need to get grants and get the CBRN SCBA to protect the members of your department.

 

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We got a huge grant just a few years ago, but for a whole county, it amounted to two Scott X3 SCBA's per station. As for CBRN, all of our packs, old and new are CBRN, but that has nothing to do with Bluetooth. We have no industrial packs that I know of. The ones from the grant are NFPA 1970, 2018 edition and we are slowly trickling in some new ones which are NFPA 1970, 2025 edition.

 

[buddrousa]

You realize per NFPA Standards 2 in and 2 out makes you very limited. With everything burning and leaking now days it is better to be full CBRN compliant.
1 simple Hazmat 2 in 2 out 2 decon with support staff 10 to 12 is minimum on the scene. This counts for a simple anhydrous ammonia leak or a farm chemical truck accident.

 

[03msc]

I feel like I clicked on the wrong thread...lol [just because I don't know much about what you're talking about lol]

 

[buddrousa]

No the OP answered the Grant question which lead me to remind what the outcome from the Grant left them in a spot.
What you see is National Standards NFPA. We were discussing AIR PACKS the devices that allow us to breathe in places where we would not be able to breathe otherwise.

 

[INDY72]

No the OP answered the Grant question which lead me to remind what the outcome from the Grant left them in a spot.
What you see is National Standards NFPA. We were discussing AIR PACKS the devices that allow us to breathe in places where we would not be able to breathe otherwise.

Which are Self Contained Breathing Apparatus, SCBA's which have Remote Speaker Mics RSM's either wire or Bluetooth connection to HT on most modern set ups that need to be special adjusted for the fact you talk through the SCBA. Which is a feat in itself! Sometimes you end up sounding like Darth Vader under a blanket!

 

[03msc]

OK, OK, fair enough. I'm caught up now lol

 

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You realize per NFPA Standards 2 in and 2 out makes you very limited. With everything burning and leaking now days it is better to be full CBRN compliant.
1 simple Hazmat 2 in 2 out 2 decon with support staff 10 to 12 is minimum on the scene. This counts for a simple anhydrous ammonia leak or a farm chemical truck accident.

We have more than two packs per engine. I said that our grant was big. I think we got just under 30 packs, a lot of new turnout gear, etc, but it amounted to two new packs per station. All of our packs are CBRN, not industrial. CBRN is what conditions they are rated to be in, not the bells and whistles of newest NFPA requirements, as you know, so I'm not sure why you keep talking about it.

I know I said I have a couple of new packs from that grant, but in total, my engine got two 2018 edition X3's from it and the old Scott 2.2's filled out the rest of the seats. We later got a 3rd one, and just a month ago we got our 4th, which is a 2025 edition X3 pack that allowed us to pull off the last wire frame Scott 2.2 and move it to the air truck with the other five. My air truck has four 2018 edition packs (two Scott X3's and two MSA G1s), all are well within their service lifetime. The old wire frame Scotts are also CBRN, not industrial, but they will be replaced as soon as we can as the composite cylinders are coming to the end of their life cycle, even with the extended DOT allowance of MAE testing. Back to what started this, none of our packs are Bluetooth, but our new handhelds do have it.

 

[buddrousa]

From my airspace certification classes I do not think you would be happy with the performance and you forsure do not want vox to your radios