There's a new repeater going up in my region. The owner posted "This repeater will also have the MDC Signaling" on another gmrs resource website. What does that mean? Thanks.
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nd5y
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Probably this.
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mmckenna
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Hopefully people set up their radios correctly. Users will get r-e-a-l tired of listening to that squawk all the time.
bonus: It can keep the CCR's out, if set up correctly.
bonus: It can keep the CCR's out, if set up correctly.
K6GBW
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I'll never understand the obsession with MDC.
CopSounds™.
On GMRS / FRS / MURS i completely agree that it's nonsensical, but on LMR systems it can be almost essential when implemented correctly.
DeoVindice
P25 Underground
If radios with MDC muting are used, it's unobtrusive and useful for PTT-ID, paging, accountability, and repeater access.
The blockheads who use an MDC ID of 1 because they "think it sounds cool"? Yeah, CopSounds™.
My personal theory is that it is a matter of elitism. The "kool kidz" with the Motorola or other radios that can run MDC claim that they can use it to identify who they are talking to. Gee, that doesn't seem to be a problem in amateur radio where callsigns are routinely used (maybe, overused) and people who talk to each other regularly learn to recognize voices. Of course, the folks who send MDC tones do tend to stand out from the Baofeng crowd. And, that's where the elitism comes in. "Look at me! I'm running a 'real' radio while you are just using a cheap, Chinese radio."
I have it enabled for my repeaters and recommended that users enable it on their radios. I am able to loan out radios and if they don't come back, I am able to inhibit them from my MC2500. I also inhibit ID 1, so dont use it on my repeaters. Works like a champ. I have DOS Muting turned on and never hear more than a blip. Now, the best part is that it annoys the crap out of the CCR users, so they do not stick around for long.
PreferredCustomer
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Correct. If I had a way to ban them outright, I would. I loathe CCRs.
My first radio when I got back into scanning (45+ years) was a Baofeng. It let me get a feel for the hobby. Once I realized it was a CCR, I moved up to a Pro2096. Then I sold it and bought a HPII. Sold that and bought a SDS200.
So, the CCRs are good for beginners.
MTS2000des
5B2_BEE00 Czar
They are subpar, piss poor performing pieces of feces. There is a new ham here in my area who insists on using a Turdfeng with audaciously low transmit audio and wonders why people are saying "please repeat" but he insists it's his antenna. It's not, it's that turdy garbage pail radio that should be run over by a beat up pickup truck and put out of it's misery. A 30 year old Alinco sounds better and is more useful than a Turdfeng.
LOL @ all of the hating on the CCR's.... yet hams bemoan that amateur radio is dying. CCR's are allowing new hams to become active and learn, since the cost and availability of the radio is not a barrier to entry. I agree, they're not great radios, but people used to drive Yugo's too.
I'm not against cheaper radios. I am against poorly engineered transmitters that spew out spurious emissions from DC to daylight. If BowelFart radios had better filtering to stop the spurs, I'd be all for them. I did buy a couple CCR PRC152 radios just for a joke and they actually were spectrally clean. Hams would still be using spark gap transmitters if they were cheap and portable. To hell with anyone else's frequencies, I'm using my radio and it's good, because it was cheap.
dispatchgeek
Control channel goes "brrrrr"
If I can't use MODAT or GE STAR, I ain't using it!
My console doesn't support MODAT or GE STAR, so only MDC gets used on my repeaters.
MTS2000des
5B2_BEE00 Czar
The problem is these radios just don't work. Low, muffled and weak transmit audio means new ham gets ignored because no one can hear him/her and they think people are being snobs. No, radio is piece of feces and doesn't transmit usable AF.
Receiver wide open and desense from an LED light or wireless router causes new ham to perpetually kerchunk local repeater, new ham gets frustrated and tosses radio in a drawer thinking "this is too difficult" as piece of dung radio can't even hear a local repeater on frequency at -90dbm because turdpile radio overloaded with RF on 2.4GHz. New ham gives up and never heard from again.
A 30 year old REAL radio with a REAL transmitter and REAL front end that is also easy to program repeater/offset and tone gives new ham a great new experience.
CCRs are trash and should be avoided.
N4KVE
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A local guy just showed up on my friend’s DMR repeater. He was proudly telling us how his radio was $14 on Amazon. The TX audio was very low, & there was no adjustment to make it louder. A few guys politely told him how low his audio was. Now just talking to him was fine, but when other “real radios” joined in the conversation, they were very loud as we all cranked up our receive audio to hear the $14 radio. So I asked the guy [and I’m known for not being PC] “why do we all have to suffer to listen to your $14 radio”? He replied “you won’t anymore”, & he hasn’t been heard from since.
MDC has nothing to do with the repeater itself, its generated and decoded in the radios and simply passes through the repeater. I'm not aware of any analog repeater that will not pass MDC.
