You have a lot to learn about encryption and how it works.
If you take the time to read the above posts, people that know how encryption works have chimed in and tried to correct all the mis-information
Mesa PD considers switch to full encryption.
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If you take the time to read the above posts, people that know how encryption works have chimed in and tried to correct all the mis-information
Unication receivers do support AES256, I'm not exactly sure how they work with KMF since they do not affiliate. I assume an agency could program them with a key and the unication could listen to encrypted comms.
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Albuquerque like Mesa has been debating this issue due activity like this,
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Probably didn't help with KRQE's former reporter Corey King impersonating an officer doing crap just like this and inserting himself into pursuits pretending to be an actual police unit in his ford explorer dressed up like an unmarked. Also didn't help him following his suspected DUIs and pulling them over, How's his case doing down there these days? Whats he up to at least 4 or 5 impersonation cases? I loved all the body cam footage of him pretending to be a cop "helping" the blue squad
Yes I know about Encryption, I have a G5 with ADP and AES running in it. Works great
You need to learn about encryption and how it works then you wont be making posts like the AES256 link, or that bad people in AZ have the keys and give them out SMH
Not to stray off but to answer there is A LOT more to his story then said. The eyes of the female officer say it all "his friend".
Last I checked, they HAVE encrypted TGs (Hots, etc.). Not my place to rant, but encryption is a false sense of security because it still won't stop you from following their vehicles IF you see them on the street.
This video shows why this all stinks. Never get anywhere near an incident. You become a problem and not part of the solution. Note that these guys don't even have a radio, which is the larger part of why agencies are considering encryption. The man narrating on the video also mentions that there is an "Interstate 10" in Albuquerque and no part of that Interstate Highway comes close to that city. Being anywhere near that parking structure is a very bad idea, let alone getting out and entering on foot.
I've worked some incidents where looky lous became a problem during my U.S. Forest Service career. Sometimes the looky lous became a problem with scene preservation and caused trauma for victims and/or victims families. I've been on wildland fires where we could not do our jobs due to looky lous. The bottom line, don't get anywhere near any incident after hearing about it on a radio. Move away from them, not to them. When I recall those events I think encryption would have been a good idea.
I've worked some incidents where looky lous became a problem during my U.S. Forest Service career. Sometimes the looky lous became a problem with scene preservation and caused trauma for victims and/or victims families. I've been on wildland fires where we could not do our jobs due to looky lous. The bottom line, don't get anywhere near any incident after hearing about it on a radio. Move away from them, not to them. When I recall those events I think encryption would have been a good idea.
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Woods Canyon some years ago I was looking for accident victim. Gave woman a heart attack, walked up quick wearing tactical pants & shirt with a firearm. I asking if anyone with her was in an ATV accident, her truck matched.
Found the spot the husband dropped his wife off to LEO. I took patient care from the LEO. I told him put helo on standby. Followed ambulance to LZ. We sent the helo to hospital close to his house which was SDL Osborn & helo had no issue going there. I blocked that entrance to helo. G&F blocked main roads. She made it, unconscious whole duration. Husband clueless on most things. Upside, I got ice for free the rest of my camping trip.
USFS using Greens rather than Diamond Pt most comms.
Found the spot the husband dropped his wife off to LEO. I took patient care from the LEO. I told him put helo on standby. Followed ambulance to LZ. We sent the helo to hospital close to his house which was SDL Osborn & helo had no issue going there. I blocked that entrance to helo. G&F blocked main roads. She made it, unconscious whole duration. Husband clueless on most things. Upside, I got ice for free the rest of my camping trip.
USFS using Greens rather than Diamond Pt most comms.
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I see people saying it mutes it. Does he have a hack that lets you listen?
So tell us what the rest of the story is.
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Yep, join the police department & be issued a radio.
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Well the link you posted brought me to another page that just says contact this David character or that it mutes the encryption audio. I do not have a unication, but curious how it decodes an encryption key. Is motorola encryption now a standardized format for all radios?
For anyone reading this thread, those in a position to do so should take this suggestion seriously...
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If that was pointed towards me I was curious how a pager/scanner can decode an encryption key like he mentioned. I was a radio tech in Jersey for a few years and recall the DES keyloader keys were like 28 characters long to include both letters and numbers. The DVP was like 4 or 6 characters if I recall correctly. (It was that long ago) I am sure the stuff today is more and do not see agencies giving it out to people. What is the point of having it then?
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It would need to have the encryption key loaded into it to decode any encrypted audio.
There encryption types are standardized, but there is no standard key. Essentially you either have the right key issued to you, or you don't.
And just in case you were going to ask, No, no agency will give you their encryption key. That's sort of like giving some stranger your log in and password to your bank account.
The encryption keys are stored in a keyloader, and in some cases, the guys loading the radios won't know what it is. Encryption keys are highly protected. Someone giving them out to people that are not supposed to have them is a 'career ending decision', and in some cases, will get you an all expense paid stay at the gray bar hotel, sharing a room with a guy named Bubba.
We call those a RGE (Resume Generating Event).
In the P25/Trbo radio system I administer, a corporate radio network that spans the continental United States, with Mutual Aid with many municipalities, I bring my old Cold War era military mindset to the table......three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead. Some think this is over protective, but then radio network security is a priority. Mesa is but one site I have to deal with, and this has impacted some of our Mutual Aid Agreements, the fact that Mesa (public safety) has not kept positive control of their portion of the network.
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