York County Police Upcoming Full Encryption

[RichardKramer]

And this benefits LEO listeners how?

It shows how redicoulous full time encryption is. Time after time I see newspaper articles after a crime is commited how the PD needs the Public's help with info on some type of crime long after it happened. When my Dad was a Deputy Sheriff in Cecil co Md; he mostly worked the beach patrols on the Eastern shores areas. He was amazed how much intel he got from people who heard the calls on their scanners and were able to offer additional info on the calls. It gave him a great rapport with the people that camped at those beaches. My Dad often said as encryption started making its way into Police comms before he passed away; the people pushing encryption is going to make LE jobs harder as it will take away the Public's eyes and ears to help us out with intel. Don't give me any crap about privacy issues; I've been at accident and crime scenes and hear the on scene PD radios squawking away. If privacy is such an issue, why aren't they using Bluetooth or some other way to keep their comms private on scene where the public has gathered????? If my Dad wanted to keep something under the qt; they would use code names or the phonetic code alphabet, no need for encryption.

 

[cavmedic]

It shows how redicoulous full time encryption is. Time after time I see newspaper articles after a crime is commited how the PD needs the Public's help with info on some type of crime long after it happened. When my Dad was a Deputy Sheriff in Cecil co Md; he mostly worked the beach patrols on the Eastern shores areas. He was amazed how much intel he got from people who heard the calls on their scanners and were able to offer additional info on the calls. It gave him a great rapport with the people that camped at those beaches. My Dad often said as encryption started making its way into Police comms before he passed away; the people pushing encryption is going to make LE jobs harder as it will take away the Public's eyes and ears to help us out with intel. Don't give me any crap about privacy issues; I've been at accident and crime scenes and hear the on scene PD radios squawking away. If privacy is such an issue, why aren't they using Bluetooth or some other way to keep their comms private on scene where the public has gathered????? If my Dad wanted to keep something under the qt; they would use code names or the phonetic code alphabet, no need for encryption.

Cause its knee jerk, and instead of holding people accountable for breaking CJIS, or making sure subscribers are properly trained and held to a standard, its easier to just hide it all.
I personally feel that radio discipline and proper etiquette has declined in some areas where talk groups are fully encrypted.

 

[PCPA]

Beck in the day there was a significant financial commitment in scanning...and those who were invested had serious legit reaaons.

He#, I probably invested >10K in today's dollars over the decades.

Now a couple of apps have turned every cell phone into a scanner on the cheap.

 

[One13Truck]

Didn’t they try this already and rolled it back because it predictably was a disaster? Or was that Lancaster?

 

[Scanner996p2]

Didn’t they try this already and rolled it back because it predictably was a disaster? Or was that Lancaster?

york hasn’t. it was proposed in lancaster to roll it back but they kept it

 

[DirtyOldMan]

February 1, 2025 and the only thing I've heard all day in Hanover, PA is EMS dispatch. I don't even get the acceptance anymore. My SDS 100 is a fine paper weight!

 

[Scanner996p2]

February 1, 2025 and the only thing I've heard all day in Hanover, PA is EMS dispatch. I don't even get the acceptance anymore. My SDS 100 is a fine paper weight!

what sites are you using? i have no issues receiving the yh bls and als channels as well as the upmc ones… hanover hospital i’m unsure if it’s carried across all sites… encrypted… or they communicate with cell phones… also… go to your settings with your sds-100 and turn off all law services…

 

[W3DMV]

For: "DirtyOldMan"
I have no idea how or by whom your SDS100 was programmed
but something in the program settings has to be incorrect.
I'm in Gettysburg and have no problem receiving both fire
and EMS traffic at my location with a SDS100.
Things to check: All correct control channels programmed?
Service types selected for each TG?
Required talk groups entered?
Are you scanning in the "ID Scanning mode
or in the "ID Searching mode"?

Since you are receiving some EMS traffic, I would assume the
basic profile is correct such as "System Type, "Mode", etc.
If you would like some help, feel free to send me a private
message and I'll be happy to attempt to assist in getting your
radio problems corrected...