BCD396XT/BCD996XT: Messed up USB connector

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I own a BCD396XT handheld. The USB connector in the scanner is messed up as I have to elevate the USB cable so that it stays connected to Proscan. Is it possible for me to open this and replace or fix the connector? I do have a Pincil-like soldering iron... I'm betting everything is about as compact as a Motorola radio. If possible, what temp should I set the soldering iron?

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It may be that the connector is loose on the PCB. Re-wetting the solder joints may fix it, but the surface mount contacts are quite small and usually beyond the skills of most. If you are not very confident soldering small surface mount components I would not suggest attempting it. Permanent damage to the PCB is possible. There are specialized micro soldering stations for surface mount components. I have used them in my previous profession, but I do not own one. I can do limited surface mount soldering with a regular soldering station and a very pointed tip.

A usual pencil iron is too large on the end. It will require a very pointed tip. You may also need to use a lighted magnifier. I would not use lead free solder. There is no reason not to use 60/40 solder in order to use the lowest possible heat. Lead free solder is used in manufacturing to meet RoHS compliance.
The solder contacts are so small they probably need no more heat than is necessary to melt the solder on the soldering iron tip.

Your best option may be to get it repaired by Uniden or maybe Gerry Oliver at G & G Communications.
 
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It may be that the connector is loose on the PCB. Re-wetting the solder joints may fix it, but the surface mount contacts are quite small and usually beyond the skills of most. If you are not very confident soldering small surface mount components I would not suggest attempting it. Permanent damage to the PCB is possible. There are specialized micro soldering stations for surface mount components. I have used them in my previous profession, but I do not own one. I can do limited surface mount soldering with a regular soldering station and a very pointed tip.

A usual pencil iron is too large on the end. It will require a very pointed tip. You may also need to use a lighted magnifier. I would not use lead free solder. There is no reason not to use 60/40 solder in order to use the lowest possible heat. Lead free solder is used in manufacturing to meet RoHS compliance.
The solder contacts are so small they probably need no more heat than is necessary to melt the solder on the soldering iron tip.

Your best option may be to get it repaired by Uniden or maybe Gerry Oliver at G & G Communications.
These are wise words! I personally use a digital microscope for these sorts of things, but it really is all about practice and experience. Now, I did learn a lot from messing up various PCBs along the way, but they have soldering practice kits out now that could help prevent the waste. If you’d like to get more proficient in soldering, the right tools are absolutely necessary. I wouldn’t start with anything close to this kind of repair though. Start with through hole and work down in size until you’re actually comfortable enough to do random repairs. And, yes, stay away from that lead-free garbage as it takes a considerable amount of heat to work with it. You could use far less heat with 60/40 or 63/37 as it has a much lower melting point! Another interesting use for this would be to “dilute” lead-free solder with it to make it easier to remove when necessary. It sounds counterintuitive, but it actually works well!
 

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I'm familiar with soldering, but something this small may be out of my hands. I was going to buy a digital microscope for motherboard repair work, but a lot of them are all the same manufactured garbage from my "spider sense." What kind do you have? I'm just afraid latter on down the road the monitor or whatever will just fail.


Ever get into the BGA stuff? They have rework stations on Amazon.
 

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I'm familiar with soldering, but something this small may be out of my hands. I was going to buy a digital microscope for motherboard repair work, but a lot of them are all the same manufactured garbage from my "spider sense." What kind do you have? I'm just afraid latter on down the road the monitor or whatever will just fail.


Ever get into the BGA stuff? They have rework stations on Amazon.
I am posting a picture of my bench / work area below. Yes, some of the equipment is decent or getting into the more high end stuff, but the majority is well rounded daily items that you get a feel for as your skills progress.

You could probably see the slimline soldering pens towards the back of the rubber mat and those have become my go to along with a slim chisel style tip. I’d recommend that kind of tip for > 95% of the repairs that most people will do. I have an extremely tiny tip that I actually need to remove and replace a fuse the size of a poppy seed, but those are the exceptions.

As you could see, I use a more-or-less basic microscope and it actually does the job well. I went through various magnifying devices before I found this, but it’s all about finding what works for you and it doesn’t have to be expensive.

Other than the oscilloscope, bench multimeter, and signal generator; nearly everything on my bench is valued under $100 and was likely sourced on Amazon. Just get into doing and practicing, and you’ll find and figure out what works best for you. Being able to see the work area when dealing with microsoldering is all you need as the rest is time and materials.

You’ll want proper solder paste, tubes of flux specifically for this (and they work great on the big stuff too), UV mask with light and thin copper wire to repair broken traces, and Kapton tape. Note the array of items in my blue dispenser on the left as those will be used most often. You’ll also want a proper “solder sucker” and I would strongly recommend the one by the Engineer brand that’s made in Japan. You can’t go wrong with their products. I personally never had a need for BGA stuff, but that said, get yourself a good blower or blower station to control hot air flow.

Finally, as we told you, lead-based solder is king, so use it, but make sure to filter your air. If motherboard repair is your thing, a digital logic pen would probably be a solid investment, and you should be able to do most repair with the equipment shown. Experience and technique are far more important though, so just practice until it becomes second nature. It’s both an art an a science!

The way I see it, if you could find an inexpensive microscope that works for you, if it does fail, it’s cheap enough to easily replace without worrying. I think it’s a good thing. I probably tested many of those products that you see on Amazon and rarely find anything significant that would prevent me from giving it a recommendation. Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions and I could try to answer them for you. I first started with electronics professionally nearly 30 years ago, but segued towards computer engineering along the way. Right now microcontrollers are my thing, but everyone seems to discover their niche.

Be well.

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I am posting a picture of my bench / work area below. Yes, some of the equipment is decent or getting into the more high end stuff, but the majority is well rounded daily items that you get a feel for as your skills progress.

You could probably see the slimline soldering pens towards the back of the rubber mat and those have become my go to along with a slim chisel style tip. I’d recommend that kind of tip for > 95% of the repairs that most people will do. I have an extremely tiny tip that I actually need to remove and replace a fuse the size of a poppy seed, but those are the exceptions.

As you could see, I use a more-or-less basic microscope and it actually does the job well. I went through various magnifying devices before I found this, but it’s all about finding what works for you and it doesn’t have to be expensive.

Other than the oscilloscope, bench multimeter, and signal generator; nearly everything on my bench is valued under $100 and was likely sourced on Amazon. Just get into doing and practicing, and you’ll find and figure out what works best for you. Being able to see the work area when dealing with microsoldering is all you need as the rest is time and materials.

You’ll want proper solder paste, tubes of flux specifically for this (and they work great on the big stuff too), UV mask with light and thin copper wire to repair broken traces, and Kapton tape. Note the array of items in my blue dispenser on the left as those will be used most often. You’ll also want a proper “solder sucker” and I would strongly recommend the one by the Engineer brand that’s made in Japan. You can’t go wrong with their products. I personally never had a need for BGA stuff, but that said, get yourself a good blower or blower station to control hot air flow.

Finally, as we told you, lead-based solder is king, so use it, but make sure to filter your air. If motherboard repair is your thing, a digital logic pen would probably be a solid investment, and you should be able to do most repair with the equipment shown. Experience and technique are far more important though, so just practice until it becomes second nature. It’s both an art an a science!

The way I see it, if you could find an inexpensive microscope that works for you, if it does fail, it’s cheap enough to easily replace without worrying. I think it’s a good thing. I probably tested many of those products that you see on Amazon and rarely find anything significant that would prevent me from giving it a recommendation. Feel free to let me know if you have any other questions and I could try to answer them for you. I first started with electronics professionally nearly 30 years ago, but segued towards computer engineering along the way. Right now microcontrollers are my thing, but everyone seems to discover their niche.

Be well.

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That work bench is too clean and organized. This must be a photo taken right after you set it up. Last time I had one that clean was in the US Air Force.
 

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Yeah, I saw your workbench before in the other subforum. I have lots of that stuff already minus the oscilloscope which I don't really need at the moment.

What BRAND is the digital microscope is what I'd like to know. Make and model, and how long have you had it?
 

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That work bench is too clean and organized. This must be a photo taken right after you set it up. Last time I had one that clean was in the US Air Force.
That’s actually kinda funny. 😂

The truth is, no, this is my everyday norm unless there‘s a project that just can’t be moved for some reason. I also had neatness drilled into me in the Navy. I ran the test equipment shop on my last carrier assignment and my Chief was all about efficiency. Now, I wish that I kept the same kind of order and respect for other aspects in my life as they could be an absolute mess. I may know where 99.7% of all items are in a particular mess, but it’s still a mess. My bench though, I keep it this way as a source of pride perhaps, but it never gets much more scattered. I also have a couple of highly organized rolling tool carts and I’m in the process of finding a spot for pull bins (I keep parts organized in one of the rolling tool carts at the moment). Additionally, I‘m currently installing a small (230W), but business-class fume extractor with 5 stage filters. Gotta keep the air clean with those lead fumes, right?! Besides, I also have a welding setup to do MIG and spot when needed. I could theoretically do TIG, but stay away from it! So, I wanted to get serious about fumes.

I am able to put much more time into the hobby now that I’m retired, so I finally got to putting together the shop that I’ve always wanted! The picture though, it was maybe just under a year after first setting it up.
 

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Yeah, I saw your workbench before in the other subforum. I have lots of that stuff already minus the oscilloscope which I don't really need at the moment.

What BRAND is the digital microscope is what I'd like to know. Make and model, and how long have you had it?
I had to go looking for where I got it from as I couldn’t find it in my old Amazon orders and I did not write any reviews on this product. I ended-up discovering that I got it on Woot for $57.99. It’s worked great for me thus far. The title says “LCD Digital Microscope, 1080P 10 Megapixels,1-1000X Magnification Zoom Wireless USB Stereo Microscope Camera,10MP Camera Video Recorder with HD Screen.” You will probably be able to find something similar on Amazon, but Woot is mainly closeouts. It look’s like the brand is PalliPartners.

Here’s a link to the original product page with more information:


I found the following comparable model currently on sale by them for $49.99 on Amazon, and it has 4.4 stars:


Another brand that I’ve tried and was happy with is TOMLOV, here’s a link to their Amazon store page:


Finally, I tried the TOMLOV one first about 3 years ago, but the model was Bluetooth. So, when I came across the first one that I mentioned above on Woot, I grabbed it to get the builtin display. That was about 2 years ago. No problems with either.
 
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