BCD325P2/BCD996P2: Questions on what to do when I first get my BCD325P2?

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AngWay

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Here are some thoughts for you to consider.

Did you review the programming
for the 325 after it was copied from the 536? Does it appear that everything was copied correctly?

Do you have any large systems programmed? Make sure you are not exceeding the memory limits of the 325p2. For example, do you have more than 500 TGIDs in a system?

Be sure that all of the quick keys are enabled on the 325 (if any are
programmed)

Are the ID Scan / ID search settings the same on both scanners?

Confirm that you are not scanning the
DMR and NXDN channels on the 536.

Can you identify some of the traffic that is being received by the 536 but not by the 325. What system? Is it conventional or trunked? Is it p25 or analog? Etc. This can provide clues of what to look for.

Rather than copying your entire programming, you may want to start small. Add one system at a time. You can add more after you confirm that is working as expected.
yes i checked all of that out everything is good
 

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Would anyone that knows alot about the BCD325P2 be willing to look at the files in proscan that i have set up and uploaded to this scaner and let me know if i have i programmed the right way? it just is not picking up like it should be and when i set the BCD536HP to that same exact frequencies and the same amount of frequencies the bcd 536hp will pick up analog freqs and p25 freqs just fine but the 325p2 misses almost all of them i get the traffic on he 536hp but the 325p2 misses most allof them even tho each scanner has the same freqs copied word for word or should i say freqs for freqs. idk what is wrong l but any help would be great . thanks
 

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Here's a couple of ideas to try:

  • Swap the antennas between the 325P2 and the 536HP, but keep the programming the same
  • Make up a "test system" codeplug for both radios. I am unfamiliar with your area, so some of the frequency suggestions may not apply:
  1. NOAA weather broadcasts for your area (in the vicinity of 162.400/162.550 MHz)
  2. Local airport ATIS broadcasts and maybe tower/ground control for local airports
  3. A couple of nearby frequencies that are analog and in several frequency bands
  4. A couple of nearby frequencies that are P25 and (if possible) in a couple of frequency bands
  5. A small mix of more distant frequencies in different bands and different modes
This will hopefully narrow down the issue to a radio/programming problem or an antenna problem.
 

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This is a list of all the freqs i have in both scanners i made up the list in sentinel for my 536hp and every freq in those lists are freqs that the 536hp will pick up and let me listen to ... so i figured it should in the 325p2 as well. unless i'm doing something wrong with the programming. this list was set up to be programmed into my 536hp i just copied them into proscan and then into my 325p2 . did i do something wrong with the programming should the 325p2 be programmed different even tho they are both the same freqs?

and remember every freqs in those files i can hear on my 536hp sometimes i will hear one or two on teh 325p2 but nothing like the 536hp and both scanners on connected to the same outdoor discone antenna.

maybe u or someone who is really experienced in this stuff can look it over and tell me if i'm programming one scanner wrong from the other. thanks
 

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i'm doing a ton of reading on this scanner trying to see if i am messing up somwhere causing it not to perform at all like my 536hp and i'm just talking about analog freqs. and p25 i have both scanners set to scan the exact same freqs analog and p25 both , they are programed identical as far as frequencies.... but how they are programmed i'm not sure i'm doing it right i'm afraid i programmed my 536hp with sentinel and proscan but i just imported the hpe files from sentinel from my 536hp and loaded them into my 335p2 ... i'm thinking maybe i might need to be programming the 325p2 alittle different in proscan than i would a 536hp in proscan. ....could that be a issue or am i just overthinking it? i would pay someone who is a expert at the 325p2 just to look at my programming and tell me if i am doing that right . right now like i said both scanners have the identical freqs loaded into them but the 325p2 is actiing like a newborn who hasn't learned to talk yet and the 536hp is already by lingual lol i have to be doing something wrong for the love of god here. both scanners are using the same antenna with a splitter. makes no sense one wouldn't pick up the same thing as the other one....if it ain't my fault and it is just the scanner itself then i will just sell it dirt cheap beause it should be doing better than whatit is doing... like i already stated i would pay someone to run some diagnostics who is smarter than me. or i'll just sell it i gave 450 for this scanner on uniden.com bought 8 rechargabel batteries plus a aa battery charger a expensive one at that . and i'm not getting m,y moneys woth so far.. i have read the bcd325p2 easy to read manual two times already trying to learn

i set the p25 threshold to 7 and the Pl flter to off becasue it said it's best to do that
 

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First I am no expert with this stuff. I do have the 325p2 and a few older Radioshack scanners one that does P25.

It took a few attempts to import the .hep files. I looked at P25 and 536 files. The screen shot is of Scott County. It has no frequency's. I did see many of the of the frequency's with the PRI set on. Not sure if that is causing the scanning issues.

Maybe someone who knows more about it. Good luck.
 

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his is a list of all the freqs i have in both scanners i made up the list in sentinel for my 536hp and every freq in those lists are freqs that the 536hp will pick up and let me listen to ... so i figured it should in the 325p2 as well. unless i'm doing something wrong with the programming. this list was set up to be programmed into my 536hp i just copied them into proscan and then into my 325p2 . did i do something wrong with the programming should the 325p2 be programmed different even tho they are both the same freqs?
It looks like the zip file contains 5 favorites lists from sentinel. These are the 536hp programming - right? I would need to see the 325p2 file from ProScan to review how the 325p2 is programmed.

Are you 100% sure that these files are the same as the programming that is actually loaded in the 536hp you are comparing to? I recommend that you read the programming from the 536, import these files into Proscan, and then write the programing to the 325p2. If the programming is not identical, any comparison would be invalid.
maybe u or someone who is really experienced in this stuff can look it over and tell me if i'm programming one scanner wrong from the other. thanks

Here are some observations:

There are 30 systems with 111 channels/frequencies in these favorite lists.

I see sites locked out in the AEP P25 system. (Only the Honaker and Keen Mtn sites are enabled) Are these sites also locked out in the 536hp?
Haysi
Grundy
Kimper

The frequencies entered for the Scott County system are 0.000. Is this expected? Are they also 0 in the 536hp you are comparing the 325p2 to?

I see a handful of frequencies with the audio type = All and NAC/CC/RAN = Search. If any of these frequencies are NXDN/DMR, these will not be received without the NXDN/DMR keys installed.

i set the p25 threshold to 7 and the Pl flter to off becasue it said it's best to do that
I recommend using the default settings. You can adjust settings later if needed to fine tune the performance.

and remember every freqs in those files i can hear on my 536hp sometimes i will hear one or two on teh 325p2 but nothing like the 536hp and both scanners on connected to the same outdoor discone antenna.
How is the antenna connected to the scanners? Are you using some kind of spitter? Does the 325p2 performance change if connected directly to the discone? Double check all connections.

Does the 325p2 receive weather if you do a weather scan from the menu?
What is the result? Are you able to receive weather stations?

Can you identify some of the traffic that is being received by the 536 but not by the 325. What system? Is it conventional or trunked? Is it p25 or analog? Etc. This can provide clues of what to look for.

Rather than copying your entire programming, you may want to start small. Add one system at a time. You can add more after you confirm that is working as expected.
I will reiterate some of the advice given post 20: #20
Start small and take it one step at a time. Program one system (maybe one favorite list) at a time. Identify what frequencies seem to be working and what traffic is missed.
 

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Also, confirm that the squelch is set properly. Several users have stumbled over this. Most recommend that squelch be set at 2.
Press Func then press the scroll control to display the squelch level. Turn the scroll control counter-clockwise all
the way then clockwise until the noise stops, then one notch more. Press the scroll control to close the squelch level.
 

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It looks like the zip file contains 5 favorites lists from sentinel. These are the 536hp programming - right? I would need to see the 325p2 file from ProScan to review how the 325p2 is programmed.

Are you 100% sure that these files are the same as the programming that is actually loaded in the 536hp you are comparing to? I recommend that you read the programming from the 536, import these files into Proscan, and then write the programing to the 325p2. If the programming is not identical, any comparison would be invalid.


Here are some observations:

There are 30 systems with 111 channels/frequencies in these favorite lists.

I see sites locked out in the AEP P25 system. (Only the Honaker and Keen Mtn sites are enabled) Are these sites also locked out in the 536hp?
Haysi
Grundy
Kimper

The frequencies entered for the Scott County system are 0.000. Is this expected? Are they also 0 in the 536hp you are comparing the 325p2 to?

I see a handful of frequencies with the audio type = All and NAC/CC/RAN = Search. If any of these frequencies are NXDN/DMR, these will not be received without the NXDN/DMR keys installed.


I recommend using the default settings. You can adjust settings later if needed to fine tune the performance.


How is the antenna connected to the scanners? Are you using some kind of spitter? Does the 325p2 performance change if connected directly to the discone? Double check all connections.


What is the result? Are you able to receive weather stations?


I will reiterate some of the advice given post 20: #20
Start small and take it one step at a time. Program one system (maybe one favorite list) at a time. Identify what frequencies seem to be working and what traffic is missed.
here is ur zip from the 325 from proscan
 

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It looks like the zip file contains 5 favorites lists from sentinel. These are the 536hp programming - right? I would need to see the 325p2 file from ProScan to review how the 325p2 is programmed.

Are you 100% sure that these files are the same as the programming that is actually loaded in the 536hp you are comparing to? I recommend that you read the programming from the 536, import these files into Proscan, and then write the programing to the 325p2. If the programming is not identical, any comparison would be invalid.


Here are some observations:

There are 30 systems with 111 channels/frequencies in these favorite lists.

I see sites locked out in the AEP P25 system. (Only the Honaker and Keen Mtn sites are enabled) Are these sites also locked out in the 536hp?
Haysi
Grundy
Kimper

The frequencies entered for the Scott County system are 0.000. Is this expected? Are they also 0 in the 536hp you are comparing the 325p2 to?

I see a handful of frequencies with the audio type = All and NAC/CC/RAN = Search. If any of these frequencies are NXDN/DMR, these will not be received without the NXDN/DMR keys installed.


I recommend using the default settings. You can adjust settings later if needed to fine tune the performance.


How is the antenna connected to the scanners? Are you using some kind of spitter? Does the 325p2 performance change if connected directly to the discone? Double check all connections.


What is the result? Are you able to receive weather stations?


I will reiterate some of the advice given post 20: #20
Start small and take it one step at a time. Program one system (maybe one favorite list) at a time. Identify what frequencies seem to be working and what traffic is missed.
I so have some of the AEP locked out just to using my closest sites. the scott county does not show 0.000 in sentinel ofproscan on the 536 / u said u seen a hanful of freqs with audio type - all and nac/cc/ran=search... i only exported p25 conv and the aep p25 trucked and the rest analog conv from my 536 sentinel hpe file and loaded them into my 325 proscan i have both antennas connect to a discone tame on my roof using a splitter and i have a noolec amplifier hooked to that i did try unhooking one antenna and hooking it tojust the 326 no difference ...yes i can recieve weather fine on both scanners ......sometimes the ky state police which is p25 phase 1 will come throuh on my 326 but it's so choppy and my 536 has it on at the same time and it's clear as a bell.....i tried downlgrading the firmware to the first version on the 325 that did nothing so i went back to 1.11 testiing that now... i took some videos i'm getting ready to upload for u to see both scanner in action scanning the exact same freqs in the same order
 

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First I am no expert with this stuff. I do have the 325p2 and a few older Radioshack scanners one that does P25.

It took a few attempts to import the .hep files. I looked at P25 and 536 files. The screen shot is of Scott County. It has no frequency's. I did see many of the of the frequency's with the PRI set on. Not sure if that is causing the scanning issues.

Maybe someone who knows more about it. Good luck.
i turned all my priority off on the 325
 

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It looks like the zip file contains 5 favorites lists from sentinel. These are the 536hp programming - right? I would need to see the 325p2 file from ProScan to review how the 325p2 is programmed.

Are you 100% sure that these files are the same as the programming that is actually loaded in the 536hp you are comparing to? I recommend that you read the programming from the 536, import these files into Proscan, and then write the programing to the 325p2. If the programming is not identical, any comparison would be invalid.


Here are some observations:

There are 30 systems with 111 channels/frequencies in these favorite lists.

I see sites locked out in the AEP P25 system. (Only the Honaker and Keen Mtn sites are enabled) Are these sites also locked out in the 536hp?
Haysi
Grundy
Kimper

The frequencies entered for the Scott County system are 0.000. Is this expected? Are they also 0 in the 536hp you are comparing the 325p2 to?

I see a handful of frequencies with the audio type = All and NAC/CC/RAN = Search. If any of these frequencies are NXDN/DMR, these will not be received without the NXDN/DMR keys installed.


I recommend using the default settings. You can adjust settings later if needed to fine tune the performance.


How is the antenna connected to the scanners? Are you using some kind of spitter? Does the 325p2 performance change if connected directly to the discone? Double check all connections.


What is the result? Are you able to receive weather stations?


I will reiterate some of the advice given post 20: #20
Start small and take it one step at a time. Program one system (maybe one favorite list) at a time. Identify what frequencies seem to be working and what traffic is missed.
i even started over and reimported every thing i listen to from radio reference into proscan for the 325 i used utilites to make sure everything was tuned right. it made things worse instead of teh 325 just scanning it would start making screaming and roughing noise . i deliberlty and made sure not to add dmr or nxdn until i seen that this scanner would at least decode analog like my 536 and sds100 would . i don't want to pay $110 for upgrades when the scanner itself won't even decode simple analog like my 536 amd sds100 / both those scanners will play analog frews from 5 counties over and clear as a bell to i live in buchanan county and i can listen to the sheriffis office in washintion county and there freqs is a analog freqs and i can hear it so fine. and to put into perspective washinton co from buchanan co is aout 6 counties over in the state. and it's a analog freq my 536 and sds100 works wonders on it . when i bought this 425 i thouht well at least one thing it will do better than the dma type scanners is decode analog better boy i was wrong, and btw i didn't buy the cheapo from amazon for 347 iv heard tomany bad things like they could be refurbised or sent back because they were bad nope i bought miine from uniden.com where i gave
$449.99 USD bought a nylon case for it which i swear seems to not be made for it took me forever to get it on buts on i gave $40 for that and the 8 pack of EBL rechargable batteries and the smart charger brought this whole thing to aound $600 bucks ... thats why i'm kinda made at thoseprices ur products sould work . but if i can't get some of u professionals to atleast help me get it going to where it will follow siple analog along with my 536 then i guess it's all going up for sale. ilove the scanner it's nice i hate the 2 battery copartmnt they don't last now after rethinking it i should have sold my 536 and bought a 436. i'm ranting but i wanted
@RMason to know everything so hopefully he could help. .. btw ill have some videos uploaded in a few showing u whats doing what video shows more than a bujnch of text. thanks to all u great people!
 

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so nobody can help me with this ? no one at all? in that case it's brand new i just took it out of the box 3 days ago i bought so many extras with it it cme to $500 dollars i was gonna add the dmr and nxdn but did not so if anyone wnats to buy a BCD325P2 brand new from uniden not amason i have the recipt plust many extras go with it just let me know .like said between the scanner and the extra stuf i bought i got $500 in it but i'd be willing to negotiate $450 maybe $400 really a deal u can't beat. . thanksi'mt thinking about adding the dmr and nxdn which willl raise the price but for now i havn't so if anyone wants a dirt cheap deal on a load of stuff let me know. Thanks.....unless u can help me get it working lol i think i just want a 436Hp
 

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I run a fleet of SDS200's SDS100's 536's 436's 996p2's 325p2's BCD160 and BCD260 all but the x60's do P25 Phase 1 and 2
with no issues.
Your best bet is to.
1. Start over and not import from any scanner.
2. Use you PROSCAN and build your Scanner File for your 325p2.
3. Are both Scanners using the same type antenna?
 

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Responding to the 1am today post of the op
I understand that, and you've done everything you can for this guy. He's going to sell it because he doesn't understand everything some have sent to him to read. I'm not sure if more is going on with him based on some of his postings, but the scanner world/trunking/P25/DMR/NXDN is over his head. You tried...
 
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