Mid-Atlantic Digital Radio network - Connect Plus system 141

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We could just rename it to "Share a Ride Program) since it involves multiple Counties Transit programs...

think of it as a Transit Inter-op TG....
 

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We could just rename it to "Share a Ride Program) since it involves multiple Counties Transit programs...

think of it as a Transit Inter-op TG....

Sounds like a good option. I'lll leave it to you to come up with whatever you think is most proper.

The duplicate 4204 talkgroups are under Dauphin and York counties. If they are serving multiple counties, I don't know if you just want to remove one and then re-describe the other one and move it to multi-county.

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Site 43 Talkgroups

Talkgroup activity monitored on site 43 -

800 - unid, active Monday only, maybe deliveries of some sort
4411 - Franklin County Rabbit Transit, busiest TG by far
5029 - Adams County Electric
4202 - York/Adams Counties Rabbit Transit
3580 - unid
4190 - unid
4199 - unid

unid TG's had little traffic so difficult to pin them down
 

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Updated site neighbors

For those of you who use DSDPlus and who can monitor a PADRN control channel, please check what DSDPlus reports as the current site neighbors for any sites that you can monitor.

And, if those site neighbors differ from those listed in the DB for that particular site, please submit and update / post here.

Thank you,

mike
 

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While I completely DISAGREE with posting info that is NOT used, I know it's going to be done anyway, so here is the info to trash this system the way TriConnex was trashed.

I only say this because this map contains frequencies that are NOT IN USE on the respective sites. The RR listing should only contain info that is CONFIRMED IN USE, and not frequencies that might be used someday. It may as well be taken one step farther and just list the FCC license info since that could be used someday, too. Again, my position is that the listings should only contain confirmed in use data, and the maps should be used for research purposes only (the way the FCC licenses are used).

This bogus info has already convinced one scanner user that a frequency not in use was "messing up" his scanning capability. That's a disservice to the scanning community, as the LCN in question does not exist anywhere except in some programming, and has never been assigned by the control channel for use. In some cases, the equipment is confirmed to NOT be present, so there is no way it could be used. But, the theoretical use is listed anyway.

That said, Merry Christmas.

Repeater Map For Con+ Network 141

Site 141-1

LCN = 1 TX = 454.60000 RX = 459.60000 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 451.55000 RX = 456.55000 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 451.92500 RX = 456.92500 DCC = 1
LCN = 4 TX = 452.70000 RX = 457.70000 DCC = 1
LCN = 5 TX = 461.42500 RX = 466.42500 DCC = 1
LCN = 6 TX = 463.72500 RX = 468.72500 DCC = 1
LCN = 7 TX = 454.61250 RX = 459.61250 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 8 TX = 451.90000 RX = 456.90000 DCC = 1
LCN = 9 TX = 461.68750 RX = 466.68750 DCC = 1

Site 141-2

LCN = 1 TX = 463.50000 RX = 468.50000 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 462.15000 RX = 467.15000 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 451.95000 RX = 456.95000 DCC = 2
LCN = 4 TX = 451.97500 RX = 456.97500 DCC = 2
LCN = 5 TX = 454.25000 RX = 459.25000 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 6 TX = 463.47500 RX = 468.47500 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 7 TX = 463.62500 RX = 468.62500 DCC = 2
LCN = 8 TX = 452.07500 RX = 457.07500 DCC = 2
LCN = 9 TX = 464.00000 RX = 469.00000 DCC = 2
LCN = 10 TX = 463.72500 RX = 468.72500 DCC = 2
LCN = 11 TX = 461.22500 RX = 466.22500 DCC = 2
LCN = 12 TX = 463.95000 RX = 468.95000 DCC = 2

Site 141-3

LCN = 1 TX = 452.82500 RX = 457.82500 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.67500 RX = 466.67500 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 463.92500 RX = 468.92500 DCC = 3
LCN = 4 TX = 454.26250 RX = 459.26250 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 5 TX = 452.87500 RX = 457.87500 DCC = 3
LCN = 6 TX = 461.07500 RX = 466.07500 DCC = 3
LCN = 7 TX = 461.10000 RX = 466.10000 DCC = 3
LCN = 8 TX = 461.72500 RX = 466.72500 DCC = 3
LCN = 9 TX = 461.75000 RX = 466.75000 DCC = 3
LCN = 10 TX = 461.77500 RX = 466.77500 DCC = 3
LCN = 11 TX = 464.45000 RX = 469.45000 DCC = 3
LCN = 12 TX = 502.86250 RX = 505.86250 DCC = 3 CC

Site 141-4

LCN = 1 TX = 454.62500 RX = 459.62500 DCC = 4 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 463.93750 RX = 468.93750 DCC = 4 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 461.81250 RX = 466.81250 DCC = 4
LCN = 4 TX = 461.95000 RX = 466.95000 DCC = 4
LCN = 5 TX = 464.46250 RX = 469.46250 DCC = 4
LCN = 6 TX = 464.75000 RX = 469.75000 DCC = 4
LCN = 7 TX = 452.26250 RX = 457.26250 DCC = 4
LCN = 8 TX = 463.73750 RX = 468.73750 DCC = 4
LCN = 9 TX = 464.88750 RX = 469.88750 DCC = 4

Site 141-5

LCN = 1 TX = 502.88750 RX = 505.88750 DCC = 5 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 462.12500 RX = 467.12500 DCC = 5 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 461.43750 RX = 466.43750 DCC = 5 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 464.26250 RX = 469.26250 DCC = 5
LCN = 5 TX = 464.25000 RX = 469.25000 DCC = 5
LCN = 6 TX = 461.62500 RX = 466.62500 DCC = 5
LCN = 7 TX = 461.65000 RX = 466.65000 DCC = 5
LCN = 8 TX = 461.42500 RX = 466.42500 DCC = 5
LCN = 9 TX = 464.12500 RX = 469.12500 DCC = 5
LCN = 10 TX = 451.97500 RX = 456.97500 DCC = 5

Site 141-6

LCN = 1 TX = 502.96250 RX = 505.96250 DCC = 6 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 451.72500 RX = 456.72500 DCC = 6 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 463.26250 RX = 468.26250 DCC = 6 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 464.36250 RX = 469.36250 DCC = 6
LCN = 5 TX = 464.66250 RX = 469.66250 DCC = 6
LCN = 6 TX = 463.21250 RX = 468.21250 DCC = 6
LCN = 7 TX = 463.45000 RX = 468.45000 DCC = 6
LCN = 8 TX = 464.30000 RX = 469.30000 DCC = 6
LCN = 9 TX = 461.15000 RX = 466.15000 DCC = 6
LCN = 10 TX = 462.02500 RX = 467.02500 DCC = 6
LCN = 11 TX = 463.22500 RX = 468.22500 DCC = 6
LCN = 12 TX = 464.72500 RX = 469.72500 DCC = 6
LCN = 13 TX = 462.03750 RX = 467.03750 DCC = 6
LCN = 14 TX = 463.23750 RX = 468.23750 DCC = 6

Site 141-7

LCN = 1 TX = 454.47500 RX = 459.47500 DCC = 7 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.87500 RX = 466.87500 DCC = 7 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 463.25000 RX = 468.25000 DCC = 7
LCN = 4 TX = 452.30000 RX = 457.30000 DCC = 7
LCN = 5 TX = 462.12500 RX = 467.12500 DCC = 7
LCN = 6 TX = 451.35000 RX = 456.35000 DCC = 7
LCN = 7 TX = 451.62500 RX = 456.62500 DCC = 7
LCN = 8 TX = 464.10000 RX = 469.10000 DCC = 7
LCN = 9 TX = 464.80000 RX = 469.80000 DCC = 7

Site 141-8

LCN = 1 TX = 454.35000 RX = 459.35000 DCC = 8 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 451.82500 RX = 456.82500 DCC = 8 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 461.66250 RX = 466.66250 DCC = 8
LCN = 4 TX = 451.22500 RX = 456.22500 DCC = 8
LCN = 5 TX = 462.52500 RX = 467.52500 DCC = 8
LCN = 6 TX = 462.15000 RX = 467.15000 DCC = 8
LCN = 7 TX = 461.27500 RX = 466.27500 DCC = 8
LCN = 8 TX = 463.32500 RX = 468.32500 DCC = 8

Site 141-9

LCN = 1 TX = 452.32500 RX = 457.32500 DCC = 9 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.75000 RX = 466.75000 DCC = 9 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 462.25000 RX = 467.25000 DCC = 9
LCN = 4 TX = 461.57500 RX = 466.57500 DCC = 9
LCN = 5 TX = 452.67500 RX = 457.67500 DCC = 9
LCN = 6 TX = 461.70000 RX = 466.70000 DCC = 9
LCN = 7 TX = 452.80000 RX = 457.80000 DCC = 9
LCN = 8 TX = 454.46250 RX = 459.46250 DCC = 9 CC

Site 141-10

LCN = 1 TX = 451.60000 RX = 456.60000 DCC = 10 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 463.35000 RX = 468.35000 DCC = 10 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 464.81250 RX = 469.81250 DCC = 10
LCN = 4 TX = 464.17500 RX = 469.17500 DCC = 10 CC
LCN = 5 TX = 461.47500 RX = 466.47500 DCC = 10
LCN = 6 TX = 464.15000 RX = 469.15000 DCC = 10
LCN = 7 TX = 454.25625 RX = 459.25625 DCC = 10 CC
LCN = 8 TX = 461.27500 RX = 466.27500 DCC = 10

Site 141-11

LCN = 1 TX = 461.75000 RX = 466.75000 DCC = 11 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 452.62500 RX = 457.62500 DCC = 11 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 461.07500 RX = 466.07500 DCC = 11
LCN = 4 TX = 463.57500 RX = 468.57500 DCC = 11
LCN = 5 TX = 454.27500 RX = 459.27500 DCC = 11 CC
LCN = 6 TX = 461.45000 RX = 466.45000 DCC = 11
LCN = 7 TX = 464.95000 RX = 469.95000 DCC = 11

Site 141-12

LCN = 1 TX = 453.01250 RX = 458.01250 DCC = 12 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 462.06250 RX = 467.06250 DCC = 12 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 452.73750 RX = 457.73750 DCC = 12 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 452.28750 RX = 457.28750 DCC = 12
LCN = 5 TX = 451.83750 RX = 456.83750 DCC = 12

Site 141-13

LCN = 1 TX = 454.25000 RX = 459.25000 DCC = 13 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 454.27500 RX = 459.27500 DCC = 13 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 454.26250 RX = 459.26250 DCC = 13 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 454.26875 RX = 459.26875 DCC = 13 CC

Site 141-14

LCN = 1 TX = 502.91250 RX = 505.91250 DCC = 14 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 454.25000 RX = 459.25000 DCC = 14 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 452.00000 RX = 457.00000 DCC = 14
LCN = 4 TX = 451.87500 RX = 456.87500 DCC = 14
LCN = 5 TX = 451.50000 RX = 456.50000 DCC = 14
LCN = 6 TX = 454.26875 RX = 459.26875 DCC = 14 CC

Site 141-15

LCN = 1 TX = 461.60000 RX = 466.60000 DCC = 15 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.30000 RX = 466.30000 DCC = 15 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 461.17500 RX = 466.17500 DCC = 15
LCN = 4 TX = 462.07500 RX = 467.07500 DCC = 15
LCN = 5 TX = 464.27500 RX = 469.27500 DCC = 15
LCN = 6 TX = 461.25000 RX = 466.25000 DCC = 15
LCN = 7 TX = 461.90000 RX = 466.90000 DCC = 15
LCN = 8 TX = 454.26875 RX = 459.26875 DCC = 15 CC
LCN = 9 TX = 501.91250 RX = 504.91250 DCC = 15 CC

Site 141-16

LCN = 1 TX = 502.93750 RX = 505.93750 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 462.10000 RX = 467.10000 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 464.65000 RX = 469.65000 DCC = 1 CC

Site 141-17

LCN = 1 TX = 454.20000 RX = 459.20000 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 464.88750 RX = 469.88750 DCC = 3
LCN = 3 TX = 461.47500 RX = 466.47500 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 451.50000 RX = 456.50000 DCC = 3
LCN = 5 TX = 463.20000 RX = 468.20000 DCC = 3
LCN = 6 TX = 461.81250 RX = 466.81250 DCC = 3
LCN = 7 TX = 461.95000 RX = 466.95000 DCC = 3
LCN = 8 TX = 464.75000 RX = 469.75000 DCC = 3
LCN = 9 TX = 463.93750 RX = 468.93750 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 10 TX = 464.23750 RX = 469.23750 DCC = 3 CC

Site 141-18

LCN = 1 TX = 454.27500 RX = 459.27500 DCC = 4 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 454.25625 RX = 459.25625 DCC = 4 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 451.87500 RX = 456.87500 DCC = 4
LCN = 4 TX = 464.02500 RX = 469.02500 DCC = 4
LCN = 5 TX = 461.52500 RX = 466.52500 DCC = 4
LCN = 8 TX = 452.56250 RX = 466.92500 DCC = 4

Site 141-19

LCN = 1 TX = 454.23125 RX = 459.23125 DCC = 5 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 464.75000 RX = 469.75000 DCC = 5 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 452.12500 RX = 457.12500 DCC = 5 CC

Site 141-20

LCN = 1 TX = 454.20625 RX = 459.20625 DCC = 6 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 464.85000 RX = 469.85000 DCC = 6 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 463.57500 RX = 468.57500 DCC = 6 CC

Site 141-21

LCN = 1 TX = 452.82500 RX = 457.82500 DCC = 7 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 464.30000 RX = 469.30000 DCC = 7 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 452.10000 RX = 457.10000 DCC = 7 CC

Site 141-22

LCN = 1 TX = 454.26250 RX = 459.26250 DCC = 8 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 451.90000 RX = 456.90000 DCC = 8 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 452.35000 RX = 457.35000 DCC = 8 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 452.10000 RX = 457.10000 DCC = 8
LCN = 5 TX = 451.45000 RX = 456.45000 DCC = 8 CC
LCN = 6 TX = 452.46250 RX = 457.46250 DCC = 8

Site 141-23

LCN = 1 TX = 454.34375 RX = 459.34375 DCC = 9 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 451.95000 RX = 456.95000 DCC = 9 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 462.42500 RX = 467.42500 DCC = 9
LCN = 4 TX = 463.87500 RX = 468.87500 DCC = 9

Site 141-24

LCN = 1 TX = 454.21875 RX = 459.21875 DCC = 10 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 463.87500 RX = 468.87500 DCC = 10 CC

Site 141-25

LCN = 1 TX = 454.14375 RX = 459.14375 DCC = 11 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.53750 RX = 466.53750 DCC = 11 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 463.96250 RX = 468.96250 DCC = 11 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 463.53750 RX = 468.53750 DCC = 11
LCN = 5 TX = 464.58750 RX = 469.58750 DCC = 11

Site 141-26

LCN = 1 TX = 454.31875 RX = 459.31875 DCC = 12 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 463.97500 RX = 468.97500 DCC = 12 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 452.72500 RX = 457.72500 DCC = 12 CC

Site 141-27

LCN = 1 TX = 454.34375 RX = 459.34375 DCC = 13 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 452.70000 RX = 457.70000 DCC = 13 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 462.02500 RX = 467.02500 DCC = 13 CC

Site 141-28

LCN = 1 TX = 454.53125 RX = 459.53125 DCC = 14 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.72500 RX = 466.72500 DCC = 14 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 464.35000 RX = 469.35000 DCC = 14 CC

Site 141-29

LCN = 1 TX = 454.19375 RX = 459.19375 DCC = 15 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 464.60000 RX = 469.60000 DCC = 15 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 462.25000 RX = 467.25000 DCC = 15 CC

Site 141-30

LCN = 1 TX = 454.07500 RX = 459.07500 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.30000 RX = 466.30000 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 464.95000 RX = 469.95000 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 464.80000 RX = 469.80000 DCC = 1 CC

Site 141-31

LCN = 1 TX = 454.51875 RX = 459.51875 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 454.19375 RX = 459.19375 DCC = 1 CC

Site 141-32

LCN = 1 TX = 454.35625 RX = 459.35625 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.32500 RX = 466.32500 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 461.67500 RX = 466.67500 DCC = 2 CC

Site 141-33

LCN = 1 TX = 454.29375 RX = 459.29375 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 454.21875 RX = 459.21875 DCC = 1 CC

Site 141-34

LCN = 1 TX = 454.27500 RX = 459.27500 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 454.34375 RX = 459.34375 DCC = 2 CC

Site 141-35

LCN = 1 TX = 454.15625 RX = 459.15625 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 454.01875 RX = 459.01875 DCC = 3 CC

Site 141-40

LCN = 1 TX = 454.61250 RX = 459.61250 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 454.34375 RX = 459.34375 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 454.20000 RX = 459.20000 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 454.35000 RX = 459.35000 DCC = 3 CC

Site 141-41

LCN = 1 TX = 451.57500 RX = 456.57500 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 451.32500 RX = 456.32500 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 461.81250 RX = 466.81250 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 462.35000 RX = 467.35000 DCC = 1 CC

Site 141-42

LCN = 1 TX = 454.15625 RX = 459.15625 DCC = 11 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 451.50000 RX = 456.50000 DCC = 11 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 452.02500 RX = 457.02500 DCC = 11 CC

Site 141-43

LCN = 1 TX = 454.25000 RX = 459.25000 DCC = 10 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 464.30000 RX = 469.30000 DCC = 10 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 464.60000 RX = 469.60000 DCC = 10 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 454.47500 RX = 459.47500 DCC = 10 CC

Site 141-44

LCN = 1 TX = 451.10000 RX = 456.10000 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 451.65000 RX = 456.65000 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 452.80000 RX = 457.80000 DCC = 2

Site 141-45

LCN = 1 TX = 454.25000 RX = 459.25000 DCC = 4 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 452.02500 RX = 457.02500 DCC = 4 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 461.55000 RX = 466.55000 DCC = 4 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 463.38750 RX = 468.38750 DCC = 4 CC

Site 141-46

LCN = 1 TX = 454.25000 RX = 459.25000 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.53750 RX = 466.53750 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 464.11250 RX = 469.11250 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 464.57500 RX = 469.57500 DCC = 1

Site 141-47

LCN = 1 TX = 454.21875 RX = 459.21875 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 464.16250 RX = 469.16250 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 464.23750 RX = 469.23750 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 5 TX = 461.95000 RX = 466.95000 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 7 TX = 451.95000 RX = 456.95000 DCC = 2

Site 141-48

LCN = 1 TX = 454.21875 RX = 459.21875 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 463.21250 RX = 468.21250 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 464.13750 RX = 469.13750 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 464.33750 RX = 469.33750 DCC = 3 CC

Site 141-49

LCN = 1 TX = 454.24375 RX = 459.24375 DCC = 15 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 464.85000 RX = 469.85000 DCC = 15 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 464.40000 RX = 469.40000 DCC = 15 CC
LCN = 4 TX = 461.87500 RX = 466.87500 DCC = 15 CC

Site 141-50

LCN = 1 TX = 454.28125 RX = 459.28125 DCC = 13 CC

Site 141-51

LCN = 1 TX = 454.26875 RX = 459.26875 DCC = 14 CC

Site 141-52

LCN = 1 TX = 461.88750 RX = 466.88750 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.95000 RX = 466.95000 DCC = 1 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 463.25000 RX = 468.25000 DCC = 1 CC

Site 141-53

LCN = 1 TX = 461.37500 RX = 466.37500 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 461.95000 RX = 466.95000 DCC = 2 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 463.63750 RX = 468.63750 DCC = 2 CC

Site 141-54

LCN = 1 TX = 454.24375 RX = 459.24375 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 463.26250 RX = 468.26250 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 463.77500 RX = 468.77500 DCC = 3 CC

Site 141-55

LCN = 1 TX = 454.21875 RX = 459.21875 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 2 TX = 463.61250 RX = 468.61250 DCC = 3 CC
LCN = 3 TX = 464.88750 RX = 469.88750 DCC = 3 CC

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BTW, I believe Site 26 is Altoona (Altoona / Wopsy Mtn)

This is based on the signal strength and beam heading from my location, and the frequencies used. I'm not 100% positive about this, but it's more reliable info than the listed LCN 3 for Site 28 that is not used...

Oh, and to answer a question from last year, that is the same way I determined the locations for sites 27/28/29. The only thing better would be an on-site confirmation of the equipment.
 

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Sooo...
(MAD 52) Dagsboro/Sussex DE WQYZ885
(MAD 53) Salisbury/Wicomico MD WQYZ884
(MAD 54) Church Hill/Queen Anne's MD WQZG437

THANKS!
 

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While I completely DISAGREE with posting info that is NOT used, I know it's going to be done anyway, so here is the info to trash this system the way TriConnex was trashed.

I only say this because this map contains frequencies that are NOT IN USE on the respective sites. The RR listing should only contain info that is CONFIRMED IN USE, and not frequencies that might be used someday. It may as well be taken one step farther and just list the FCC license info since that could be used someday, too. Again, my position is that the listings should only contain confirmed in use data, and the maps should be used for research purposes only (the way the FCC licenses are used).

This bogus info has already convinced one scanner user that a frequency not in use was "messing up" his scanning capability. That's a disservice to the scanning community, as the LCN in question does not exist anywhere except in some programming, and has never been assigned by the control channel for use. In some cases, the equipment is confirmed to NOT be present, so there is no way it could be used. But, the theoretical use is listed anyway.

That said, Merry Christmas.
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Thanks for the contribution, Joe.

Mike
 

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That leaves the following sites unknown [to me at least]:

Code:
Site 13
454.25		LCN 1	DCC 13
454.275		LCN 2	DCC 13
454.2625	LCN 3	DCC 13
454.26875	LCN 4	DCC 13

Site 31
454.51875	LCN 2	DCC 1
454.19375	LCN 2	DCC 1

Site 33
454.29375	LCN 1	DCC 1
454.21875	LCN 2	DCC 1

Site 34
454.275		LCN 1	DCC 2
454.34375	LCN 2	DCC 2

Site 35
454.15625	LCN 1	DCC 3
454.01875	LCN 2	DCC 3

Site 40
454.6125	LCN 1	DCC 3
454.34375	LCN 2	DCC 3
454.200		LCN 3	DCC 3
454.35		LCN 4	DCC 3

Site 50
454.28125	LCN 1	DCC 13

Site 51
454.26875	LCN 1	DCC 14


And I would guess three of those sites listed above will be:

? Quarryville (Lancaster) - COULD BE GAP - WQOS223 (TRIANGLE)
? Ogletown / Windber PA (Somerset) - probably using all paging freqs (CENTRE)
? Wilkes-Barre (Luzerne)

Mike
 

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One things that admins [including me] might want to consider is exactly how to name these sites. The naming comes from various sources:

  • The city (from FCC license)
  • The sitename that the PADRN originally gave it / calls it (according to their maps)
  • The sitename that the MADRN finally gave to it (according to their maps)

In many cases all three are different. So it would be good to try and agree upon the best version of the site name.

A good example is:

19 Phillipsburg aka Rattlesnake (aka black moshannon aka julian)

The name is different, depending upon where you get the site location from :)

mike
 

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I live very close to Gap & Quarryville. The (WQOS223/WNAY658) Gap site is silent. Quarryville is covered by site 11 Rawlinsville (aka Holtwood). The WQLK268 Lancaster site mentioned is providing an LTR system to the area. Same as the Holtwood (WPFU958), New Holland (WNFF821/WPUD483/WPTW656/WZV250), and Cornwall (WNST294) LTR's, I just haven't had the opportunity to nail down the Lancaster LCN yet. I have a sneaky suspicion Red Lion is an LTR also. On a different note, The York site in the DB is actually the Red Lion site. York probably has a separate LTR system too. FWIW...
 

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I live very close to Gap & Quarryville. The (WQOS223/WNAY658) Gap site is silent. Quarryville is covered by site 11 Rawlinsville (aka Holtwood). The WQLK268 Lancaster site mentioned is providing an LTR system to the area. Same as the Holtwood (WPFU958), New Holland (WNFF821/WPUD483/WPTW656/WZV250), and Cornwall (WNST294) LTR's, I just haven't had the opportunity to nail down the Lancaster LCN yet. I have a sneaky suspicion Red Lion is an LTR also. On a different note, The York site in the DB is actually the Red Lion site. York probably has a separate LTR system too. FWIW...

Check out this map:

http://www.midatlanticdrn.com/uploads/4/7/8/7/47876343/padigitalradionetwork_overlay.pdf

That map indicates separate sites at Quarryville _and_ Rawlinsville. It also indicates separate sites at York and Red Lion.

York (site 4) and Red Lion (17) are already in the DB.

Red Lion (17) - WQOT822
- FCC license matches with Site 17 in the network map
- FCC license indicates Red Lion
- network map CC of 454.200 matches what is already in the DB for site 17

York (4) - WQKQ261
- FCC licenses matches with Site 4 in the network map
- FCC license indicates york
- network map CC of 454.625 matches what is already in the DB for site 4

To me, it looks like Red Lion and York are separate, and both active. I've cross-referenced site names and locations from at least four different maps (on PADRN and MADRN). We do not know what any of the 454-only sites are in the Network map, and the only sites [listed on maps but not accounted for] are the ones I mentioned.

So, I'd tend to think that York, Red Lion, Rawlinsville and Quarrysviille are four separate and distinct sites. Granted, my $0.02 may be worth $0.00.

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You may be right, but as I said I am getting nothing from Quarryville/Gap and only pick up Rawlinsville & New Holland. If site 17 is Red Lion it should be submitted. As it is in the DB it says Berks! and I live closer to Red Lion than York and I get No site 17 but I do get site 4 which is further away and lower in elevation! Go figure.. All I can say is what I receive in the real world, not just FCC listings. I know what the map says but it is for advertising to entice more customers not to help scanner nuts. I am trying to help..
 

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If you know where Site 22 is, then share. I don't know where it is. I notice you did not mention it as one of your unknowns..

Here's what I have:

(MAD 01) Harrisburg-North/Dauphin
(MAD 02) Cornwall/Lebanon
(MAD 03) Malvern/Chester
(MAD 04) York/York
(MAD 05) Honeybrook/Chester
(MAD 06) New Holland/Lancaster
(MAD 07) Harrisburg-South/York
(MAD 08) Hanover/York
(MAD 09) Shippensburg/Franklin
(MAD 10) Summit Station/Schuylkill
(MAD 11) Rawlinsville/Lancaster
(MAD 12) Bloomsburg/Columbia
(MAD 13) /Unknown
(MAD 14) Concordville/Delaware
(MAD 15) Lower Alsace/Berks
(MAD 16) Allentown/Lehigh
(MAD 17) /Berks
(MAD 18) Philadelphia/Philadelphia
(MAD 19) Black Moshannon/Centre
(MAD 20) Lewistown/Mifflin
(MAD 21) Williamsport/Lycoming
(MAD 22) /Unknown
(MAD 23) Newport/Perry
(MAD 24) Tannersville/Monroe
(MAD 25) Pine Grove Mill/Huntingdon
(MAD 26) Ebensburg/Cambria
(MAD 27) Blairsville/Indiana
(MAD 28) Johnstown/Cambria
(MAD 29) Rochester Mills/Indiana
(MAD 30) State College/Centre
(MAD 31) /Unknown
(MAD 32) /Indiana?
(MAD 33) /Cambria
(MAD 34) /Unknown
(MAD 35) /Unknown
(MAD 40) /Unknown
(MAD 41) Dupont/Luzerne
(MAD 42) /Unknown
(MAD 43) Waynesboro/Franklin
(MAD 44) /Luzurne?
(MAD 45) Boyertown?/Berks
(MAD 46) /Schuylkill?
(MAD 47) Hazleton/Luzurne
(MAD 48) Renova?/WYOMING-BRADFORD-POTTER-CLINTON-MCKEAN Co
(MAD 49) Egg Harbor City/Atlantic NJ
(MAD 50) /Unknown
(MAD 51) /Unknown
(MAD 52) Dagsboro/Sussex DE
(MAD 53) Salisbury/Wicomico MD
(MAD 54) Church Hill/Queen Anne's MD
(MAD 55) /Unknown
 

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Sure, I'd be glad to share what I think is correct.

Code:
1  Harrisburg aka WHP - WQKJ459 WPLY937 (TRIANGLE)
2  Cornwall aka Penn Twp - WNST294 WPUF745 (TRIANGLE)
3  Malvern - WPWG477 WPIS884 (TRIANGLE)
4  York - WQKQ261 (TRIANGLE)
5  Honeybrook - KNAE286 WPRJ813 (TRIANGLE)
6  New Holland - WNFF821 WPUD483 (TRIANGLE)
7  New Cumberland aka Reeser's Summit - WPLY937 (TRIANGLE)
8  Hanover - WPLY936 (TRIANGLE)
9  Shippensburg aka Sherman Mtn - WPMR457 (TRIANGLE)
10  Summit Station aka Wayne Twp - WPGK373 (TRIANGLE)
11  Rawlinsville aka Holtwood - WPFU958 (TRIANGLE)
12  Northumberland / Montour Ridge (Northumberland) - WPNT642 (GREENS)
13  454.25 (LCN 1) , 454.275 (LCN 2) , 454.2625 (LCN 3) , 454.26875 (LCN 4)
14  Concordville - WQUR609 WPLR257 (TRIANGLE)
15  Reading aka Lower Alsace - WPRX690 WPRJ813 (TRIANGLE)
16  Allentown aka Salisbury Twp - WPNU846 WPMT607 WPQB585 (ICE)
17  Red Lion (York) - WQOT822 (TRIANGLE)
18  Philadelphia aka CH-17 Philadelphia - WQTU646 (TRIANGLE)
19  Phillipsburg aka Rattlesnake (aka black moshannon aka julian) - WMNS666 WQWW357 WNNY532 KNIR589 (CENTRE)
20  Lewistown aka Hawstone - WPHV250 (CENTRE)
21  Williamsport - WPMP373 (CENTRE)
22  Lancaster City (Lancaster) - WQLK268 (TRIANGLE)
23  Newport - WQSK899 (TRIANGLE)
24  Tannersville aka Camelback - WPMT607 (ICE)
25  Broadtop (Huntingdon) - AKA PINE GROVE MILLS - WQSR893 (CENTRE)
26  Altoona / Wopsy Mtn (Blair) - WPMN285 WNVT290 WNSC824 (CENTRE)
27  Blairsville aka Penn View - WPOX891 (CENTRE)
28  Johnstown - WNKG325 WPOX894 (CENTRE)
29  Rochester Mills - WNCG479 WPOX895 (CENTRE)
30  State College aka Little Flat (aka Boalsburg) - WNMU682 WPLP404 (CENTRE)
31  454.51875 (LCN 1) , 454.19375 (LCN 2)
32  Rockton (Clearfield) - WNQJ673 (CENTRE)
33  454.29375 (LCN 1) , 454.21875 (LCN 2)
34  454.275 (LCN 1) , 454.34375 (LCN 2)
35  454.15625 (LCN 1) , 454.01875 (LCN 2)
40  454.6125 (LCN 1) , 454.34375 (LCN 2) , 454.200 (LCN 3), 454.35 (LCN 4)
41  Pittston (Luzerne) - AKA DUPONT - WQVL989 (TRIANGLE)
42  Ebensburg (Cambria) - WQWW557 WNVT290 (CENTRE)
43  Waynesboro aka Quirauk aka Hagerstown MD - WQXN596 (TRIANGLE)
44  Bear Creek Twp (Luzerne) - WPMI594 (TRIANGLE)
45  Boyertown (Berks) - WQVL698 (TRIANGLE)
46  Ashland (Schuykill) - WQWI685 (TRIANGLE)
47  Hazelton (Luzerne) - WQWL881 (TRIANGLE)
48  Mehoopany (Wyoming) - WQUR273 (CENTRE)
49  Egg Harbor City aka Elwood, NJ - WQYZ562 (TRIANGLE)
50  454.28125 (LCN 1)
51  454.26875 (LCN 1)
52  Dagsboro, DE aka Roxana, DE - WQYZ885 (TRIANGLE)
53  Salisbury, MD - WQYZ884 (TRIANGLE)
54  Church Hill, MD -- WQZG437 (TRIANGLE)
55  Catawissa (Columbia) - http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/ApplicationSearch/applLocSum.jsp?applID=10358577


? Quarryville (Lancaster) - COULD BE GAP - WQOS223 (TRIANGLE)
? Ogletown / Windber PA (Somerset) - probably using all paging freqs (CENTRE)
? Wilkes-Barre (Luzerne)

Combine Voyager's network map listing of Site 22 frequencies with the frequencies on WQLK268 and you'll see how I determined that Site 22 is Lancaster.

Mike
 
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Thanks for sharing. Co-operation is a good thing! :)

Indeed. Keep in mind that I finalized my own determination on multiple sites _only_ after Voyager posted the network map. Without the network map many sites were up in the air. Now it's all becoming much clearer (except for those sites using only paging frequencies).

I could have sworn I gave you links to some of my documentation, or offered it, or something in the past. if I hadn't, I apologize.

What I have documented, anyone is free to look at. Of course, only I can make rhyme or reason out of them hah. I have 3 or 4 Google maps and Two Google docs and then a text file (that I just copied in the previous message to ya).

I'm an open book man - here is most of it: https://airwaves.ovscan.com/pamadrn-pa-mid-atlantic-digital-radio-network/

The only exception is the text file I have here (and you now see in my previous message) that I used to map names of sites (PADRN calls them one thing, MADRN calls them another, FCC licenses call them another). So there are some sites where all three are in agreement, and some where all three are different.

And I think I have my map updated: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1R_Uj6PU7kSUiHi9he1x6pXKOYoo&usp=sharing

Mike
 

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I'll try to confirm the Red Lion & Lancaster site info, but I think they got the area covered just fine between Cornwall, New Holland, Rawlinsville, Honeybrook, S. Harrisburg, and York. If you note: some of the York site frequencies (463.9375,461.8125,461.95) can be found under the Red Lion license. My 2¢

You did share that info with me previously, Thanks. It's just that I have trouble trying to keep up with the changes. Life gets in the way.
 
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I'll try to confirm the Red Lion & Lancaster site info, but I think they got the area covered just fine between Cornwall, New Holland, Rawlinsville, Honeybrook, S. Harrisburg, and York. If you note: some of the York site frequencies can be found under the Red Lion license. My 2¢

You did share that info with me previously, Thanks. It's just that I have trouble trying to keep up with the changes. Life gets in the way.

I can only come up with guesses [albeit pretty educated guesses at this point]. I have to leave it up to you to give the definitive answer on the stuff over there. I have no plans on being in PA before I die :)

Mike
 
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