Mid-Atlantic MilAir 2023

[KO4RJX]

Yeah the altitude really helps. It was tracking northeast of me (where all the trees and buildings are on the horizon) so getting 245 nm out of it was great that direction. On good days I can "see" aircraft over east central Ohio - which is in the 270 -300 nm range. It helps the horizon that way is water and more water.

I might have the ability to put an ADS-B receiver around the 300 foot mark of a tower down the road. Wonder what the range would be at that height?

 

[TerryPavlick]

I might have the ability to put an ADS-B receiver around the 300 foot mark of a tower down the road. Wonder what the range would be at that height?

There are ways to calculate that..... off course on the side of the tower you would be partially obstructed

 

[Mark]

Lot of DEED tankers off and running Eastbound.
DEED-25 18-46049 22ARW
DEED-26 15-46009 22ARW
DEED-12 #63-8013 Ohio ANG
DEED-14 #61-0317 AZ ANG. mispelled DEID.

DEED-13 #59=1509 EB
DEED-22 #18-46039 22ARW
DEED-23 #62-3506 Iowa ANG
DEED-27 #18-46054 Pease.
Seems the KC-46's are all headed to LERT Rota Spain.
Thinking the KC-10's May be DEED-11,21 down the road on this move.
Someone on twitter said 5th Bomb Wg Minot mission codes for these tankers.

 

[Mark]

A Vid just up of that Nuke sniffer MILLER-36 that was working out of San Juan..
Almost looks like APU's mounted on the sides but guess could be air sample collectors?
Up on front of tail fin looks like another gadget that looks like a microphone.. Maybe that is sampler?
Also a rare Boeing B-727-200 VP-BAP which seems to have a home in Van Nuys Cal.
Seems like yesterday 727's were a dime a dozen.
4K- PLANE SPOTTING 2023 SanJuan The New Constant Phoenix WC-135R & Private B727-100. - YouTube

Report the DEED tankers are for this exercise Joint Oak-23 going on in Israel. Does list B-52 strategic bombers under Centcom release.
Eight tankers with 4 on this side suggest at least 4 or more Buffs perhaps.
CENTCOM and Israel Defense Forces Conduct Exercise Juniper Oak 23.2 > U.S. Central Command > Press Release View

 

[Tank67]

Heard someone talking on 269.0. I have that as JFK Mil Use but I see it's also on the list as Potomac TRACON, it was coming in with 2 bars of reception so I'd have to think it's down by most of you guys. I think he said runway 31? He wasn't coming in too loud.

 

[dmi]

I might have the ability to put an ADS-B receiver around the 300 foot mark of a tower down the road. Wonder what the range would be at that height?

I was curious so I did some calculations. It's actually not a big factor unless the aircraft is at low altitude with obstructions in the way. The calculation I used didn't take into account RF propagation, obstacles, transmission line loss, antenna gain. It just uses the height of each antenna.

An antenna at 300 feet will receive an aircraft at an altitude of 30,000 feet from a distance of 269 miles (approx. 234 nm)
With an antenna at 10 feet same altitude for aircraft distance = 249 mi (approx. 216nm)
That's a difference in distance of 20 miles!

When you get up to the frequencies that ADS-B uses, propagation comes into play much more so than VHF/UHF.
ADS-B Frequencies

• Mode-S Extended Squitter: 1090 MHz;
• UAT: 978 MHz.
• Interrogator: 1030 MHz.

For those that are interested.... I used this site:

Radio Line of Sight Distance Calculator • Electrical, RF and Electronics Calculators • Online Unit Converters

This radio line of sight distance calculator determines the line of sight distance between the transmitter and the receiver. It does not take into account any ...

www.translatorscafe.com

 

[BM82557]

Low-level "attack" on airbase --

Watch Nine F-16s Make A Crazy-Looking ‘Attack’ On A Danish Airbase

 

[TerryPavlick]

I was curious so I did some calculations. It's actually not a big factor unless the aircraft is at low altitude with obstructions in the way. The calculation I used didn't take into account RF propagation, obstacles, transmission line loss, antenna gain. It just uses the height of each antenna.

An antenna at 300 feet will receive an aircraft at an altitude of 30,000 feet from a distance of 269 miles (approx. 234 nm)
With an antenna at 10 feet same altitude for aircraft distance = 249 mi (approx. 216nm)
That's a difference in distance of 20 miles!

When you get up to the frequencies that ADS-B uses, propagation comes into play much more so than VHF/UHF.
ADS-B Frequencies

• Mode-S Extended Squitter: 1090 MHz;
• UAT: 978 MHz.
• Interrogator: 1030 MHz.

For those that are interested.... I used this site:

Radio Line of Sight Distance Calculator • Electrical, RF and Electronics Calculators • Online Unit Converters

This radio line of sight distance calculator determines the line of sight distance between the transmitter and the receiver. It does not take into account any ...

www.translatorscafe.com

Just curious - are you surprised that it is only a 20 mile increase ?

 

[TerryPavlick]

Low-level "attack" on airbase --

Watch Nine F-16s Make A Crazy-Looking ‘Attack’ On A Danish Airbase

Yeah lets hope that was for fun and not how they plan on doing it for real.

 

[dmi]

Just curious - are you surprised that it is only a 20 mile increase ?

I had a feeling it wouldn't be that much. But was a little supprised it was only 20 and not something upwards of 50 miles.

 

[KO4RJX]

I was curious so I did some calculations. It's actually not a big factor unless the aircraft is at low altitude with obstructions in the way. The calculation I used didn't take into account RF propagation, obstacles, transmission line loss, antenna gain. It just uses the height of each antenna.

Radio Line of Sight Distance Calculator • Electrical, RF and Electronics Calculators • Online Unit Converters

This radio line of sight distance calculator determines the line of sight distance between the transmitter and the receiver. It does not take into account any ...

www.translatorscafe.com

More than I thought actually. One day I'll run out to the tower, hook up a receiver and see what it gets.

 

[TerryPavlick]

I had a feeling it wouldn't be that much. But was a little supprised it was only 20 and not something upwards of 50 miles.

Yeah I think an antenna at 300 feet even at sea level would do better than that. There is proagation at that frequency in good conditions - I have seen that on my own screen.

 

[TerryPavlick]

More than I thought actually. One day I'll run out to the tower, hook up a receiver and see what it gets.

I would agree - at least in the direction not blocked by the tower.

 

[RaleighGuy]

U.S. Air Force Airmen from the 104th Fighter Squadron and various units from the 175th Wing, Maryland Air National Guard, arrive at the Air Dominance Center, a Combat Readiness Training Center, on Jan. 19, 2023, to participate in exercise Sunshine Rescue which will take place through Jan. 28, 2023 in Savannah, Georgia.

Maryland Air National Guard A-10C Thunderbolts arrive at Air Dominance Center for Sunshine Rescue

U.S. Air Force Airmen from the 104th Fighter Squadron and various units from the 175th Wing, Maryland Air National Guard, arrive at the Air Dominance Center, a Combat Readiness Training Center, on Jan. 19, 2023, to participate in exercise Sunshine Rescue which will take place through Jan. 28...

www.dvidshub.net

 

[jsoergel]

Recorded from earlier on 243.650:

"Aircraft 11" calling "Base," 10 minutes out. Sounded like a fighter. Possibly heading to NAS Oceana, but nothing heard with ATC.

 

[Tank67]

Couple of upcoming trips to the northeast...
On Monday, January 30, the President will travel to Baltimore, Maryland.
On Tuesday, January 31, the President will travel to New York, New York.

View attachment 134828 View attachment 134829

Thanks for the heads up, hopefully will be able to put the camera to use

 

[Madfox]

Complete log for the SP to Kadena, went on a bit this one!

Coronet West 411/22-23

08/01/2023
RUMMY64/62-3500/KPHX>KWRI

09/01/2023
RUMMY61/79-1711/KWRI>EGUN
RUMMY71/84-0186/KWRI>EGUN

Andrews 11/01/2023 CW411 Westbound
JEST 11-16 ETAD>KADW
90-0828 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
91-0338 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
91-0342 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
91-0361 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
91-0416 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
96-0080 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP "480FS"
79-1711 KC-10A 305AMW/McGuire RUMMY61 EGUN>KPSM
58-0100 KC-135R 351ARS/100ARW/D RUMMY62 EGUN>EGUN
62-3500 KC-135R 197ARS/161ARW/AZ`ANG RUMMY64 KWRI>KWRI

JEST 21-26 ETAD>KADW
90-0813 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
90-0829 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP "52OG"
91-0417 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
91-0418 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
92-3918 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
96-0083 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
84-0186 KC-10A 305AMW/McGuire RUMMY71 EGUN>KPSM
57-2605 KC-135R 351ARS/100ARW/D RUMMY72 EGUN>EGUN
16-46021 KC-46A 305AMW/McGuire RUMMY74 KWRI>KWRI

12/01/2023
RUMMY61/84-0186/KPSM>PAED
RUMMY64/62-3500 KWRI>KWRI
JEST11-16 KADW>PAED (serial order unconfirmed)

13/01/2023
RUMMY71/79-1711/KPSM>PAED
RUMMY74/16-46021/KWRI>KWRI
JEST 21-26 KADW>PAED (serial order unconfirmed)

14/01/2023
RUMMY81/86-0031/KSUU>PAED

Kadena 16/01/2023 CW411 Westbound
JEST 11-14 PAED>RODN
91-0338 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
91-0416 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
91-0417 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
96-0080 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP "480FS"
84-0186 KC-10A 305AMW/McGuire RUMMY61 PAED>RJTY
62-3559 KC-135R 909ARS/18Wg/ZZ RUMMY63 RODN>RODN

JEST 21-24 PAED>RODN
90-0813 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
91-0342 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
91-0418 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
92-3918 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
86-0031 KC-10A 60AMW/Travis RUMMY71 PAED>RJTY
58-0086 KC-135T 909ARS/18Wg/ZZ RUMMY73 RODN>RODN

17/01/2023
RUMMY61/84-0186/RJTY>KSUU
RUMMY71/86-0031/RJTY>PAED

18/01/2023
RUMMY61/84-0186/KSUU>KWRI
RCH025/79-1711/PAED>KWRI

Kadena 19/01/2023 CW411 Westbound
JEST 31-32 PAED>RODN
90-0828 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
96-0083 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
86-0031 KC-10A 60AMW/Travis RUMMY81 PAED>RJTY
62-3559 KC-135R 909ARS/18Wg/ZZ RUMMY83 RODN>RODN

20/01/2023
RUMMY81/86-0031/RJTY>KSUU

22/01/2023
RUMMY81/86-0029/KSUU>PAED

Yokota 24/01/2023 CW411 Westbound
JEST 33-34 PAED>RJTY (divert)
90-0829 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP "52OG"
91-0361 F-16C 480FS/52FW/SP
86-0029 KC-10A 60AMW/Travis RUMMY91 PAED>RJTY

Coronet West 411/22-23 Westbound

Although not a Coronet East mission, as it originates from Europe its worth a note. Deployed alongside the 525FS/3Wg/AK/CW413 which arrived ...

cemovements.blogspot.com

 

[mdmonitor]

VIP Movement Summary (does not include POTUS, VPOTUS, FLOTUS travel)

DATE: 23 Jan

SAM 112 (C-37 # 18-1942) ADW-Fayetteville AR-San Diego
SAM 930 (C-37 # 09-0525) ADW-San Antonio TX
Coast Guard 101 (C-37 # 01) DCA-Charleston AFB SC
Coast Guard 102 (C-37 # 02) DCA-Teterboro NJ-DCA

 

[pro106import]

Sikorsky Aircraft OPS with Experimental N600PV Blackhawk on 123.375 if you are close enough to Stratford, Ct. doing various tests

 

[PenguinSix]

From yesterday's Marine One landing. Pretty good view of the press pool.