Morris County TRS

[pwolsko]

I'm using a Uniden 396T and have, besides local conventional systems, the NJSP North and Morris County TRS trunked systems programmed. I got the trunk info from here on RR. There appears to be no real differences between the NJSP and Morris County TRS in terms of trunking structure. Now for my problem:

I have no problem hearing the NJSP, but the Morris County TRS seems mute. I'm in Hopatcong (Sussex County), but only two miles from Morris county and hear the Morris County conventional channels with no problem, so I doubt it's a matter of distance. I'm not new to this scanner or scanning in general, but was wondering if anyone has any ideas...?

I'm probebly overlooking something that's glaringly obvious, and I've checked lockouts and all that, but I've not heard a thing from the Morris trunk. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!!!

 

[DJ88]

There appears to be no real differences between the NJSP and Morris County TRS in terms of trunking structure.

Unless I'm misinterpreting what you are saying, there are differences when programming the two. The State Police, Motorola Type 2 800 MHz, only requires frequencies and talk groups. The Morris County System, Motorola Type 2 UHF, requires the base frequencies, spacing and offset channels to be programmed, along with the frequencies and talk groups. Have you done this?

 

[pwolsko]

Morris TRS

DJ88, thanks for your response. I let ARC396 do the work, and RR has the same trunk system specified as NJSP for the Morris TRS. I have changed it and now have the base freqs and type that you have suggested:

471.0000, offset 380, spacing 12.5 and
476.0000, offset 520, spacing 12.5

...But I'm still hearing nothing. On the antenns side of things, I'm currently using a UMAX 800, and I realize that, although it may not be precisely tuned to the frequency range, I figured I'd get something. I guess my next step is to try control-channel-only and see if it lights this trunk up.

Pegards,

Paul

 

[pwolsko]

Morris TRS

DJ88 - problem is solved! After I tried control-channel-only (which didn't work) I went back to the setttings as you advised, and took off the UMAX 800 for an old Rat Shack tunable antenna and pulled it out to approximate the freq range of MC TRS. Lit up like a champ and there's plenty of activity. Put the UMAX back on and it went deaf. Learn something every day, I guess.

Thank you very much, sir, for your help in this matter. I really appreciate your assistance. I guess I should post something to RR and have them update the Morris County TRS info.

Kind regards,

Paul

 

[DJ88]

You're welcome I'm sure. However, now YOU owe ME one. Just kidding. Glad you're up and running.

 

[Highpockets]

DJ88 - problem is solved! After I tried control-channel-only (which didn't work) I went back to the setttings as you advised, and took off the UMAX 800 for an old Rat Shack tunable antenna and pulled it out to approximate the freq range of MC TRS. Lit up like a champ and there's plenty of activity. Put the UMAX back on and it went deaf. Learn something every day, I guess.

Thank you very much, sir, for your help in this matter. I really appreciate your assistance. I guess I should post something to RR and have them update the Morris County TRS info.

Kind regards,

Paul

What info is wrong in the RR database for Morris County Trunked Syatem?

 

[DJ88]

What info is wrong in the RR database for Morris County Trunked System?

The only thing I can figure out is that he may be referring to the fact that they're both (State Police and Morris TRS) listed only as Motorola Type 2 Smartzone, without any specification of 800 MHz or UHF. That distiniction, however, is not made with any TRS on the database, but left up to the member/guest to figure out instead. To someone who is familiar with programming trunk systems, that wouldn't be a problem, but may be to someone new to the hobby.

 

[pwolsko]

Morris TRS

Yes, that is correct. I thought the the UHF specification would have been there. Now I know... Fact is that I'm relatively new to trunking and, until recently, monitored only NJSP after having been monitoring conventional channels for many years. Digital and trunking have rendered my old scanners just about useless.

Cheers!

 

[Highpockets]

Yes, that is correct. I thought the the UHF specification would have been there. Now I know... Fact is that I'm relatively new to trunking and, until recently, monitored only NJSP after having been monitoring conventional channels for many years. Digital and trunking have rendered my old scanners just about useless.

Cheers!

I understand what you were saying now, thanks to you and DJ88 for explaining that, I kept looking at Morris Cty for mistakes.

 

[RocketNJ]

Unless I'm missing something the UHF band tables for the Morris system are listed in the database.

Trying to program a UHF system from scratch without guidance can be frustrating the first time. With the Morris system pay attention to where you live in relation to the 4 zones. A mistake people often make is to program in all the frequencies into one system/site. This would result in sometimes hearing conversations strong then hearing them weak or not at all. I'd suggest listening to the control channel for each zone, then put in only the frequencies for that zone.

If you have a 996, you can set up 4 sites under the sytem. Just lock out the sites you don't need.

 

[nnjradiotech]

I just recently had a problem with the Morris TRS with a 396. The problem I had, was easily fixed by updated to the current release of firmware. The digital decode was much more reliable also.