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What console are you talking about? MCC 7500?

Yes, you can have tones "stacked" however many you want in a row. It all depends on how they are grouped and how the console resources are setup.
 

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The MCC7500 won't allow the same cap code to be stacked more than once. You can stack dozens of pagers, but all must be unique.

Provisioning Manager will also reject attempts to create page groups with duplicate pages.
 

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I don't recall if MCC7500s can send audio files or not, but if so that's probably your only option. We use Zetron Max consoles here, and to get the same tone set to go twice I had to create a custom audio file for each agency; first they get the tones 1 sec/3 sec, then there's a .500ms gap, then the same tones 1 sec/1 sec (don't get me started on why these people want their tones twice).

Only variation was for two agencies which still use legacy pagers with their old tone pairs in them; in their case it's new tones 1 sec/3 sec followed by old tones 1 sec/1 sec.
 

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Only variation was for two agencies which still use legacy pagers with their old tone pairs in them; in their case it's new tones 1 sec/3 sec followed by old tones 1 sec/1 sec.
That's probably the easiest way to go if double-alerting is desired...just add a second unique tone set to the pagers and stack the old and new on the console. Modern pagers hold plenty of tone pairs, so unless you have an agency with a dozen paging tones, should be doable.
 

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You could probably build one tone as QCII B and one as QCII E, then stack those. So it would essentially do the tone twice then a quick warble
 

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What console are you talking about? MCC 7500?

Yes, you can have tones "stacked" however many you want in a row. It all depends on how they are grouped and how the console resources are setup.
Do u mean stacked as in I push dept A tones button then push dept b tones button then push dept C tones buttons then transmit and they all go off?
 

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"Stacked" means sets of tones grouped together and assigned to a single resource on the console. But as previously noted, apparently the MCC 7500 doesn't like you duplicating tones, so probably not an option. Of course you never did confirm the console you're referring to, so.
 

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I don't recall if MCC7500s can send audio files or not, but if so that's probably your only option. We use Zetron Max consoles here, and to get the same tone set to go twice I had to create a custom audio file for each agency; first they get the tones 1 sec/3 sec, then there's a .500ms gap, then the same tones 1 sec/1 sec (don't get me started on why these people want their tones twice).

Only variation was for two agencies which still use legacy pagers with their old tone pairs in them; in their case it's new tones 1 sec/3 sec followed by old tones 1 sec/1 sec.
Our want for tones twice was when we were VHF on older consoles our two tone would drop and then we had a 5 second “warble” after, one we went to trunked dispatch on new Harris consoles the warble was no more and we had members missing night calls because the one alert was not enough
 

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"Stacked" means sets of tones grouped together and assigned to a single resource on the console. But as previously noted, apparently the MCC 7500 doesn't like you duplicating tones, so probably not an option. Of course you never did confirm the console you're referring to, so.
Yes I’m working on this problem in typical government fashion, backwards, I am waiting to get the console model info. And yes that’s what I’m hearing is I could stack 20 different 2 tones and have no issue but the console does not like duplicate tones, which makes no sense
 

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Our want for tones twice was when we were VHF on older consoles our two tone would drop and then we had a 5 second “warble” after, one we went to trunked dispatch on new Harris consoles the warble was no more and we had members missing night calls because the one alert was not enough
if all youre after is a warble, why not just have the tone with a warble after it?
If I'm understanding you correctly, adding the warble would eliminate the need to have the tone sound twice, or see my message above, that would be another solution
 

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What type of pager are you using?.. If it's Unication, just record your tones and use them as the alert for the pager OR record a Warble tone and use it.
 

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if all youre after is a warble, why not just have the tone with a warble after it?
If I'm understanding you correctly, adding the warble would eliminate the need to have the tone sound twice, or see my message above, that would be another solutiogetti
if all youre after is a warble, why not just have the tone with a warble after it?
If I'm understanding you correctly, adding the warble would eliminate the need to have the tone sound twice, or see my message above, that would be another solution
Getting some mixed messages on if that can be done, I thought a file could be made with the tone pair then the warble, (which I currently have made) and then load that into the console
 

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Is it because you also dispatch for PD and everyone knows they get priority?

You've obviously never been a dispatcher, so I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.
 

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If the goal is to add extra tones after initial 2 tone page, set up a group page. Within the group, first page/set of tones are actual tone sequence. 2nd set of tones are "pseudo tones" (Basically added tone audio to wake responders) The 2nd tones don't trip anything. (And dispatcher would TX voice after 2nd tone sequence end) If dispatchers were used to waiting for warble to end, they likely will not have a problem waiting for fake tones to end.
 
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