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Motorola XTS 5000 NAS

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Hello all!
I have a Motorola XTS 5000 700-800 mhz that I set up for NAS and hidden TG on my county's P25 Phase 1 system. I followed the directions on the forum to make sure that it didn't affiliate and is not able to transmit. They have 3 different sites, and I entered all the control channels for all 3 sites.
The issue that I am having in that the active TG are showing up when they are talking on those channels, but I am unable to hear any audio. It is completely silent. I have entered all the control channels and so forth as stated before following the correct instructions to make sure the radio is NAS.
I can send someone my code plug privately if that would help. Not sure what would be causing this to happen, could my radio still be affiliating and could no audio be a result of them bricking my radio. Everything else seems to still work though.
Thanks
 

Outerdog

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You don't have the band plan set up up correctly.

Astro 25 Channel IDs.

Don't guess. It is has to be correct.
 

XTS500

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You don't have the band plan set up up correctly.

Astro 25 Channel IDs.

Don't guess. It is has to be correct.
How would I go about fixing the band plan. All info was gotten off of radio reference for my county system and following the NAS guide.
 

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Hey not to piggyback on the thread I just had a question. Got my XTS up and NAS on my local p25 system but was wondering if it was possible to do the same with a type 2 smart zone system? And what steps that would be different as to not have the radio affiliate ? Also can the same be done with a phase 2 system that has FDMA TGs? I know TDMA is phase 2 and unsupported by the XTS
 

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Hey not to piggyback on the thread I just had a question. Got my XTS up and NAS on my local p25 system but was wondering if it was possible to do the same with a type 2 smart zone system? And what steps that would be different as to not have the radio affiliate ? Also can the same be done with a phase 2 system that has FDMA TGs? I know TDMA is phase 2 and unsupported by the XTS
Yes, same method, different boxes/tabs
 
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vjkurvy

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Hey not to piggyback on the thread I just had a question. Got my XTS up and NAS on my local p25 system but was wondering if it was possible to do the same with a type 2 smart zone system? And what steps that would be different as to not have the radio affiliate ? Also can the same be done with a phase 2 system that has FDMA TGs? I know TDMA is phase 2 and unsupported by the XTS
Create a conventional/system as usual. Assign the channels. Where the magic happens is in the scan list. Remember to choose “operator select,” so you can change the scan list. When creating list also create a multi system scan. Next, in the scan list select “cnv” for the smart zone (conventional) instead of “trk.” Hit me up DM with any questions
 

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The method was developed before P25, on Type II Motorola trunking systems. Type II, not Phase II. Works on Type 1 trunking, too, if by chance one is still in operation somewhere, which I'd be surprised to hear.
Barnstable County, MA. is still operating a Type II Smartnet System.
 

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How are type II TGIDs entered into CPS? I understand p25 is HEX and I assume the type II systems TGs are as well but it will only allow me to enter 3 digits and RR shows the IDs as 4 do I just drop the last digit (which appear to all be 0)?
 

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The RadioReference database shows Uniden talkgroup ID's. You'll have to convert those to Motorola by dividing by 16 and then convert to hexadecimal.
 

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Drop the 0 at the end of the hex ID to get the actual TGID. Same result as dividing the dec TGID by 16 then converting back to hex.
 

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Ignore the single 0 at the end of the hex value in the RRDB, everything prior to is valid. Clear enough now?
 
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