MPSCS in Detroit using Pro 106 -- No audio

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nostar

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I just got a Pro 106 and downloaded the trial software and cleared out the memory and created a new Trunk system object using the primary and secondary control freq's listed for Detroit Simulcast.

System type: P25 AUTO
Alpha Tag MPSCS

Freqs:
868.72500
867.07500
868.53750
868.93750

Everything else I left as default. Next I added a Talkgroup with a * in Talkgroup ID and Wildcard as alpha tag. Trunk System is set to MPSCS. TType was blank, now I've set it to group. No change. It stop's scanning with a full signal and I constantly get the 'T' for Talkgroup data, and varias frequencies show up on the second line, all of which are in the list for Detroit Simulcast, but I dont here anything. If I turn it up all the way I here a faint humm but that's it. I live in the heart of Detroit, Right behind the old train station and next to the Ambassador Bridge so I shouldn't have any issues with signals. Also I manually tuned to the primary control channel and I can hear it, so anyone know what is wrong?
 

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I've never programmed it by hand, but I don't think * is a valid talkgroup ID?
 

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I've never programmed it by hand, but I don't think * is a valid talkgroup ID?

I don't think so either. I don't think there is a need to enter in a wildcard. Just set it to 'open mode'

Can't say for sure though, I sold off my pro-96 years ago so my memory on that may be rusty.
 

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Here's the latest. The * is only in the PC software. In the scanner ID and tag are both Wildcard. It's doing what it is supposed to, I believe, because it is scanning and constantly stopping on many different talkgroup ID's, all of which I look up in the talkgroup list and end up being valid detroit police, fire, ems etc groups. I just don't hear anything. I try squelch all the way to thelft, all the way to the right, no change. I got in my car and drove around downtown and SW Detroit, not a peep.

Ive checked the scanner by manually tuning to frequencies I have written down using convential analog systems like casino security and a taxi serive, and they work. I also manually tune to primary MPSCS control channel and can hear the signal. I'm baffled.
 

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Manually enter in the trunking channels (not the CC) and see what you hear.
 

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I've tuned into about 4 different non control freq's and im picking up what sounds like digital data, and the display says FM. So this scanner is not converting the digital signal to audio?
 

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They aren't programmed with any sort of tone are they? Does look like you have something wrong there with the hardware.
 

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Right now im tuned to 868.2375 (another one of the non control freq's) and now it is occasionaly going full signal and identified as a DG P25: 79E signal instead of just FM. No audio though, other than a very faint buzz when the volume is all the way up.
 

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I just got this thing off ebay, and I need to figure out if there is an unrepairable hardware problem quick so I can deal with the seller. Does anyone in the Southeastern Mighigan area have a 106 that is successfully listening to *any* P25 talkgroup that wouldn't me coming by and doing a head to head comparison to confirm that there is or is not something wrong with mine? I live in SW Detroit, today I am driving out to Armada and then Memphis. Thanks.
 

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Hi I live in the S.W. Detroit area, and I would like to offer to troubleshoot your scanner...... leave me an link to your E-mail so we can meet. Or you can go to the radio shack store on fort St. in Southgate,Mi and they Will clone it for you ( Although I don't use most of the trunking frequencies.
 

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Hi I live in the S.W. Detroit area, and I would like to offer to troubleshoot your scanner...... leave me an link to your E-mail so we can meet. Or you can go to the radio shack store on fort St. in Southgate,Mi and they Will clone it for you ( Although I don't use most of the trunking frequencies.

Are you still in the area? I moved (same area) and just got my scanner back out and started messing with it again. Do you have a Pro-106 too? Are you able to get any audio from the MPSCS system in our area?
 

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Try programming it for the Windsor P25 system and see if you pick up any activity from there... that might help narrow things down for you.
 

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I sent my scanner off to radio shack and paid $50 for a firmware update, which I could have done myself if I would have checked that for myself before I sent it off. I explained to them that I was positive that this wasn't going to fix the issue that I sent it in for, which was no audio from P25 systems. They said I can send it back to them if I still have issues, which looks like is going to be the case.

Anyway, here I am 2 years later, in the same boat. Conventional channels are fine, but I am in SW Detroit, right by the Ambassador bridge and I get no audio even though the scanner gets full strength signals and locks on talkgroups all day long. I added the Windsor simulcast tonight, and same story. Locks on talkgroups all day long, but no audio. I made a short video and posted it to youtube, I'll post the URL in a seperate post, in case this forum has issues with external links.

Can anyone explain this, or anyone that lives anywhere in the area that has a scanner working on any MPSCS system? At this point I would be happy to see any scanner working on any MPSCS P25 system, even if it's not Detroit, before I send this thing back again.
 
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