New 154.310 Somerset?

[rr60]

We know Somerset has at least two 154.310‘s, North & South.

I am seeing and hearing what I believe is a new and improved big beautiful signal on 154.310.

This is being used for the Franklin Twsp. Fire Companies that are using VHF. There may be more.

 

[DBR_M12]

We know Somerset has at least two 154.310‘s, North & South.

I am seeing and hearing what I believe is a new and improved big beautiful signal on 154.310.

This is being used for the Franklin Twsp. Fire Companies that are using VHF. There may be more.

Still sounds the same to me.

 

[robbinsj2]

Also sounds the same to me. I believe there's a "west" (Zion?) which is usually used for 32 Fire though sometimes 32 alerts are weaker for me as though coming from elsewhere.

Are there any companies using Fire-High exclusively other than 32 and 39 Fire (with an asterisk for 39 since it's no longer primary into Somerset, limited on Fire-High, and mostly South Brunswick/ Middlesex)? Franklin District 3 is now simulcast, 46 and 53 Fire are simulcast, I believe 55 is also simulcast.

 

[bunangst]

If I had to make a guess...probably "KEJ767 - FRANKLIN, TOWNSHIP OF"
Two pretty high profile tower sites and 100W ERP at both locations.

 

[rr60]

I like that guess. My location can suffer terrain shadows. It seems signal for me no longer has path obstruction. I was thinking same, in Franklin. Backfill to me.

 

[FT752]

Also sounds the same to me. I believe there's a "west" (Zion?) which is usually used for 32 Fire though sometimes 32 alerts are weaker for me as though coming from elsewhere.

Are there any companies using Fire-High exclusively other than 32 and 39 Fire (with an asterisk for 39 since it's no longer primary into Somerset, limited on Fire-High, and mostly South Brunswick/ Middlesex)? Franklin District 3 is now simulcast, 46 and 53 Fire are simulcast, I believe 55 is also simulcast.

I concur, 32F has always come in extremely weak. I noticed little difference when I heard two calls go out on Fire High yesterday.

I don't have a pin on Franklin District 3. I am not sure if there is a district-wide migration from VHF pagers to UHF, or if 27 is ahead with UHF pagers while 25 is straggling on VHF and thus multicasting to accommodate. Ideally, all but 32 should be losing VHF pagers and moving to UHF. The infrastructure being simulcast allows for robust coverage in and out of the county.

 

[rr60]

D3 -55 dBm from County PL 100.0 154.310 North

45 46 53 36 all multicast UHF/VHF

154.310 - 100 dBm South for me.

 

[robbinsj2]

53 Fire and 46 are ordinarily multicast; 53 EMS is UHF only. 45 is ordinarily UHF only but may be multicast if they're toned out alongside 46. I've not heard 36 on Fire-High in a long time, did you hear them dispatched alongside a Fire-High department like 32 or 46?

Shortly after my last post I heard 55 multicast.

Does anyone have the pager tones for 10 Fire? I heard them paged once in April, it didn't sound like the usual 36/37/38/District tones but I wasn't recording so I couldn't go back and check.

 

[rr60]

Yes that group was from a 1st AL today. So this is the explanation for multicast.

Just heard 26/55 together on North 154.310.

We will get this sorted out. 10 not yet.

 

[robbinsj2]

...Ideally, all but 32 should be losing VHF pagers and moving to UHF...

Quote is out of context but prescient -- this afternoon county started clearance testing a new tone pair on 470.1375, 1530/950 matches 20 Fire's pair on 154.415.

@rr60 did you hear 26's tone pair on VHF, or just the multicast voice message? With the mix of 470.1375, 154.31, and 155.31 in that area I'm accustomed to multicast pages but usually the tones are separate, only the voice message is multicast, and there's sometimes some dead air while tones wrap up on another frequency. Same with 470.1375 and 507.2375 in Bridgewater and 51 Fire/EMS.

 

[FT752]

clearance testing a new tone pair on 470.1375, 1530/950 matches 20 Fire's pair

Second round just happened within the last hour. At first, I thought it was the old Liberty Corner FAS tones, but that explains it. Franklin Districts 1, 2, and 4 (less frequently, according to your information on response coverage) are UHF, so @rr60 heard 26 on UHF and 55 on VHF since they are still multicasting. The 51 DTMF on 470.1375 but then tones on 506.9875 is a decent dead hanger.

Country Hills is doing more operations on Fire Region 2, there's a good chance the rest of the district is heading that way soon.

 

[robbinsj2]

Franklin District 4 is now Griggstown, Little Rocky Hill, and Rocky Hill as primary responders; I haven't checked very recently but as of a month or two ago District 4 did not contract with Kingston and Kingston was not on the regular dispatch list but could be on box plans for higher alarms. The last time I heard Kingston paged was some 3-4 months ago as RIT into District 3 and it was Fire-High only. Probably few members carry VHF pagers so notification is probably text message and South Brunswick's talkgroup on the Middlesex County system.

Country Hills seems to default to 507.2375 when they're solo or with Bradley Gardens or North Branch. They usually use Region 2 when they're dual dispatched with 32 or 48 and when another call is on 507.2375.

I've been trying to figure out the 51 Fire & EMS DTMF tones on 470.1375. Earlier this year they were preceded by a tone pair (different from the 506.9875 tones) but not in a while now. Are the DTMF sequences for station sirens?

 

[rr60]

@robbinsj2 ”I've been trying to figure out the 51 Fire & EMS DTMF tones on 470.1375. Earlier this year they were preceded by a tone pair (different from the 506.9875 tones) but not in a while now. Are the DTMF sequences for station sirens?”

DTMF usually for sirens, sometimes for Station doors. Most likely sirens.