New communication System

[slicerwizard]

Um, no...that's not what I thought. Simply disabling TX (as Mike pointed out) doesn't prevent the radio from affiliating. Either way, I'll just shut up now.

Rowdy thread we've got going here.

If I were selling radios to customers who had no business transmitting on any channel that the radio could be programmed for, in addition to the programming that Mike listed, I'd want to physically disable the PA. Of course, that usually means you need a schematic, unless some kind soul has posted that info on the net. I'm not talking about permanent damage, just a discreet trace cut that can be undone by anyone reasonably skilled in the radio arts.

With the wide proliferation of RSS and CPS out there, I wouldn't want to be blamed for any dubious reprogramming done after the sale.

BTW, you can see the results of some of the programming jobs (Invalid RID 0 / Invalid RID FFFF) all day long on 3C08.

BTW/2, if anyone chooses to cut the PTT button trace on a handheld, make sure you don't forget the external mic wiring.

 

[jellotor]

I figured I'd just get while the getting is good, Andy. I'm not an expert on either the legalities of programming radios to monitor a TRS or the methods to make it happen...so I'll confine my comments to what I know.

It's obvious that it's another one of those legal grey areas, though.

 

[exkalibur]

Some programming jobs == Lakeshore

Only the GTX and Maxtrac radios can be hacked to take a RID of 0000 or FFFF. At least, from what I've seen.

Yes, lifting the trace on the PA would be a good idea as well. Using the service menu, you can reduce output power to 0 as well. I had this done on one of my radios, and on the test frequencies, doesn't even put out enough power for a scanner with it's squelch open with a proper antenna to detect it 3 feet away. I suspect whatever power the driver is pumping out is just not going to do anything.

 

[phyberoptics]

And what we do is actually cut and remove the internal coax going to the final amplifier stage, along with the disabling programming previously mentioned. I don't need anyone pointing fingers at bad programming jobs, and I abhor the thought of someone being able to key a TRS and possibly put someone in jeopardy by jamming the system.

I've seen enough repeater jamming in my days and remember a particular "gentleman" in Brampton who used to jam the Peel Police repeaters back in the VHF days.

Jellotor, sorry if I came across harsh, no ill will intended ;-)

 

[jellotor]

No worries man.

 

[denseglow]

Not to be too blunt or anything, but... basically you're like a mini EMS service for a complex where it's very unlikely something would go wrong and; if it did Toronto EMS would be on scene with in I'd say average responce is about 5-6 minutes with a city of that size. And what is the purpose of this mini EMS service? I think I am going to start a mini police department. Anyone wanna join? Another question, how do you make profit? Do you advertise? Do you have a website? What is your companies name? And, what would you need radios for? The people here have clearly asked these questions several times already, yet it has no been provided. Maybe we could help you a bit more if you explain more into detail.

 

[Chomper1313]

Not to be too blunt or anything, but... basically you're like a mini EMS And what is the purpose of this mini EMS service? I think I am going to start a mini police department. Anyone wanna join? .

A mini police department?Dont you mean a security company?

 

[denseglow]

Yeah, guess that would have been a better choice of word.

 

[patman]

As one who spent 13 years as a paramedic, both PCP and ACP, I will be blunt. The last thing the GTA needs is another service (Code 8 etc) made up of people who want to play paramedic. Most employees of these "first response" companies have never worked a day for an EMS department as they could not pass the entrance testing. Leave first response to the professionals who do so on a daily basis: the municipal EMS agencies.

 

[multisync]

As one who spent 13 years as a paramedic, both PCP and ACP, I will be blunt. The last thing the GTA needs is another service (Code 8 etc) made up of people who want to play paramedic. Most employees of these "first response" companies have never worked a day for an EMS department as they could not pass the entrance testing. Leave first response to the professionals who do so on a daily basis: the municipal EMS agencies.

Ya and besides the 'pros' have bigger egos. Two semesters (6 months) at Humber or Centennial and suddenly they think there doctors.

 

[DaveH]

Ya and besides the 'pros' have bigger egos. Two semesters (6 months) at Humber or Centennial and suddenly they think there doctors.

Be that as it may...the primary importance is protection of the public, I'd
rather have well-trained people with a bit of ego, than people not well-trained
whether or not their egos are inflated...

So, this is drifting away from the topic. Anyway, has anyone monitored
Hatzoloh Toronto, or any other "alternative" first-repsonders; are they busy/
interesting?

Dave

 

[patman]

Ya and besides the 'pros' have bigger egos. Two semesters (6 months) at Humber or Centennial and suddenly they think there doctors.

Actually, it's 2 years not 6 months. You should check your facts before replying. Ignorance destroys your credibility

 

[slicerwizard]

Hello, we have started a new medical first responders team in downtown Toronto Canada We are looking to set outselves up with some communications equipment.

At least you didn't go this route: http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56096

 

[mciupa]

Anyway, has anyone monitored Hatzoloh Toronto, or any other "alternative" first-repsonders; are they busy/interesting?
Dave

Dave , I think I'm going to give Hatzoloh a try . They are licensed for 451.4375

I'll have to brush up on Yiddish medical terminology , you know in case they talk about a brechen in the gazoinkas. Oy !

 

[jellotor]

At least you didn't go this route: http://www.radioreference.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56096

What would whackers do without the forums at RR.com and eBay? Oh, right...they'd find a different way to endanger people's lives...

 

[DaveH]

Dave , I think I'm going to give Hatzoloh a try . They are licensed for 451.4375

I'll have to brush up on Yiddish medical terminology , you know in case they talk about a brechen in the gazoinkas. Oy !

I think I'll pass on asking for translation of the above Anyway, not
being the expert here, would it not more likely be Hebrew or maybe
"good old" english?

Seems there were some Moto system TGs posted not too long (last few
months) and I thought Hatzoloh was in there somewhere....Fleetcom system
maybe?

Dave

 

[pathalogical]

I found this link, http://www.toronto.ca/ems/special_programs/medvent.htm

 

[newtoscanning]

What happened

Does anyone know what system they ended up with. 1stresponders said they would post what equipment they got...

Just wondering if anyone knew, was kinda interested.

 

[mciupa]

Well, they last posted Dec. 6th and yesterday (Jan .28 th) was their last activity recorded on this site. (courtesy of the Public Profile link)

They are probably laying low and you might have to e-mail or private message them for an answer . Perhaps they are busy with their business for now.

 

[MetalCarnage]

As one who spent 13 years as a paramedic, both PCP and ACP, I will be blunt. The last thing the GTA needs is another service (Code 8 etc) made up of people who want to play paramedic. Most employees of these "first response" companies have never worked a day for an EMS department as they could not pass the entrance testing. Leave first response to the professionals who do so on a daily basis: the municipal EMS agencies.

I dont want to be blunt, but as in all professions, u have your "professionals" and your "professional morons".

I have spent 4 years on a First Response Team with my Medical First Responder certification in Thunder Bay. I would like to point out some of the parademics who passed their entrance testing have to be some of the worst emergency providers i have ever seen. I am not on a first response team to "play paramedic" nor is the medical area in my interest for a job (i am an electrical engineer). I do not have respect for EMS Paramedics who bash First Response teams who take time out of their own lives (in my case without pay) to save peoples lives and get **** on as "wannabees". A lot of places in Canada are dependent on first response teams who have "never worked a day in an EMS department" so i suggest you think before you criticize first responders as a whole, because you may be the one in a an emergency one day that requires me to save your ass.