New Jersey Interoperability Communication System (NJICS)

[Tac-1]

radioditch what change is coming soon new radios or the dispatch

 

[richee2000]

2011 - New Providence
2000, 2022, 2024 all are being/have been been used as prefixes by Union County proper.



Cranford FD is dispatched by UC 2400 on UHF and simulcast to the appropriate NJICS talkgroup. That will however, at some point reasonably soon, change.



New Providence Fire is part of the Mountain Valley alliance and has established PD and FD Operations talkgroups. Could this be another municipal service or NP Rescue Squad or was it definitively fire traffic?

it was fire dept ops..actually fire trucks bringing gifts on santa patrol

 

[richee2000]

2011 - New Providence
2000, 2022, 2024 all are being/have been been used as prefixes by Union County proper.



Cranford FD is dispatched by UC 2400 on UHF and simulcast to the appropriate NJICS talkgroup. That will however, at some point reasonably soon, change.



New Providence Fire is part of the Mountain Valley alliance and has established PD and FD Operations talkgroups. Could this be another municipal service or NP Rescue Squad or was it definitively fire traffic?

it was fire dept ops..actually fire trucks bringing gifts on santa patrol

 

[RadioDitch]

radioditch what change is coming soon new radios or the dispatch

My understanding is that at some point Cranford FD will begin going directly through the NJICS vs. simulcasting.

 

[Tac-1]

My understanding is that at some point Cranford FD will begin going directly through the NJICS vs. simulcasting.

Thanks, getting new radios

 

[RadioDitch]

6095 is a rebroadcast of Cranford PD current dispatch channel

Cranford PD appears to now have at least a couple units going direct into the NJICS, TG6095, Union County Simulcast (of course).

RID 2003005 - Patrolman Portable
RID 2003070 - Radio Car 43 Mobile
RID 2003100 - Central Police Console/Simulcast

I also was made aware of at least two officers having been issued new APX portables. Cranford UHF P25 is still active.

Also I have been told the 5000 series TG's are not available for non-state use. Some of you might be able to find out more from your contacts. But that would make it possible for 6095 to be Cranford PD's permanent new home.

Thanks, getting new radios

FD already has the radios, just haven't started going through the NJICS yet. Still simulcasting.

 

[RadioDitch]

Cranford UHF P25 is still active.

As of midnight Cranford PD UHF 1 is silent. Submission being made.

 

[RadioDitch]

Cranford Fire has begun transitioning radios off the UHF simulcast/patch for direct use of the NJICS. The patch/simulcast will remain active indefinitely until all users have transitioned and a plan is put into action for Cranford VFAS.

 

[CqDx]

West Orange is reporting a new (isolated) neighbor site 29 what has a control channel of 856.7125. I suspect this is a the new NY Penn Station BDA site that will be coming online soon.

 

[W2SJW]

Actually not a BDA, but an ASR...

 

[GTR8000]

Indeed, a BDA is transparent to the system, providing bi-directional amplification or "boosting" of existing signals (site and subscriber) using standalone hardware that has no physical connection to the system, and thus no unique Site ID. Likewise, a DAS is an extension of an existing site, and would not have a unique Site ID of its own.

ASR = ASTRO Site Repeater...in other words a standalone site vs a simulcast cell
BDA = Bi-Directional Amplifier
DAS = Distributed Antenna System

 

[craneoperator99]

West Orange is reporting a new (isolated) neighbor site 29 what has a control channel of 856.7125. I suspect this is a the new NY Penn Station BDA site that will be coming online soon.

Interesting...a site at that location should help improve in-building portable coverage in Hoboken, which has reportedly been forced to use their analog conventional repeater instead of NJICS due to coverage issues.

 

[GTR8000]

Interesting...a site at that location should help improve in-building portable coverage in Hoboken, which has reportedly been forced to use their analog conventional repeater instead of NJICS due to coverage issues.

If the Jersey City subsite of the West Orange cell 1.5 miles south of Hoboken isn't providing enough in-building coverage, then a site at Penn Station 2 miles away isn't going to make any difference. The Penn Station site is only licensed for two frequencies at very lower power 20' above the ground. It is not intended for wide area use.

 

[W2SJW]

If the Jersey City subsite of the West Orange cell 1.5 miles south of Hoboken isn't providing enough in-building coverage, then a site at Penn Station 2 miles away isn't going to make any difference. The Penn Station site is only licensed for two frequencies at very lower power 20' above the ground. It is not intended for wide area use.

Correct. Plan is to give NJTPD officers better portable coverage inside the station.

 

[kd2pm]

Backhaul to the core was established today so thats why its showing up. PSNY will definitely be underground comms only. Should cover the 7th ave concourse and some of the tracks. Will be expanded down the road.

 

[ht396jm]

If the Jersey City subsite of the West Orange cell 1.5 miles south of Hoboken isn't providing enough in-building coverage, then a site at Penn Station 2 miles away isn't going to make any difference. The Penn Station site is only licensed for two frequencies at very lower power 20' above the ground. It is not intended for wide area use.

Is this something that should be added to the database?

 

[CqDx]

A few talkgroups that have not been in the database yet, but added to the wiki page:

4683 - Radio ID 2019xxx. Keyup only, no voice
4711 - "Crossing Guard to Central". Radio ID 2019xxx
4741 - Request for building evacuation tone by a fire department user, followed by another user (console?) sending evacuation tone over the talkgroup. Radio ID 2019xxx
4769, 4771 - Radio ID 247xxxx. Keyup only, no voice

4805, 4807, 4809 - Radio ID 2024xxx. "Radio Maintenance Test"
4829 - Radio ID 2018xxx. Keyup only, no voice
4831 - Radio ID 2011xxx. Sounds like Millburn FD doing parade for kids.
4887 - Radio ID 2493xxx. Keyup only, no voice

 

[GTR8000]

Is this something that should be added to the database?

I'm sure Scott will add it to the database once it's actually on the air, but for the time being, no. It'll only be of interest for those in the immediate area of Penn Station anyway, as previously discussed.

 

[kd2pm]

I'm sure Scott will add it to the database once it's actually on the air, but for the time being, no. It'll only be of interest for those in the immediate area of Penn Station anyway, as previously discussed.

It will be interesting to see who else may affiliate with the ASR other than NJTPD. So if you travel through PSNY and have your scanner with you, you can let us know who else may be using it.

 

[RadioDitch]

A few talkgroups that have not been in the database yet, but added to the wiki page:

4683 - Radio ID 2019xxx. Keyup only, no voice
4711 - "Crossing Guard to Central". Radio ID 2019xxx
4741 - Request for building evacuation tone by a fire department user, followed by another user (console?) sending evacuation tone over the talkgroup. Radio ID 2019xxx

Union Township. 4683 is Union PD and should be encrypted, it's suspected to be Detective Bureau but hasn't been corroborated. 4711 is Union BOE, now confirmed to be Crossing Guards 1. 4741 might be the missing Union Fire Emergency TG.

4769, 4771 - Radio ID 247xxxx. Keyup only, no voice

RID matches those that have been seen during POTUS visits, presumed to be NJSP/USSS. He's currently in Mar-a-lago, but there are events at Bedminster tonight.

4805, 4807, 4809 - Radio ID 2024xxx. "Radio Maintenance Test"

That was Union County OEM Communications, they were working on the system today. Those are new TG's though.

4829 - Radio ID 2018xxx. Keyup only, no voice

Summit

4831 - Radio ID 2011xxx. Sounds like Millburn FD doing parade for kids.

New Providence Fire, unknown use to date.