New TG's

[btritch]

Also off the same Troop C wildcard I heard B dispatch off of, I also heard TWO TG's that aren't in the data base. 16801 which I'm assuming was in Craighead county since it fits and 6402 which falls into the ADC Category. Perhaps someone can help confirm these?

 

[bono_328]

16801

16801 is jackson co oem. I hear the So running on it daily

 

[zzdiesel]

16801 is jackson co oem. I hear the So running on it daily

I'm getting this TG right now on the Jonesboro tower.

 

[bono_328]

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yeah i am too but the officer i heard talkin was a diaz officer that i know very well. i pick em up on jonesboro tower bout every day

 

[btritch]

Really, Weird because Jackson County OEM Should Be Troop B only! But I heard it on Troop C and D.. Strange....Well Thanks For The ID! I'll know next time!

 

[INDY72]

ANY unit with a radio with that tg programmed in that roams near a strong enough signal from ANY of the AWIN sites will affiliate and you will hear that tg any time it is used until that unit moves out of signal range. As has been explained several times about the AWIN... Unlike older Statewide and wide area TRS's... Where you might only here traffic for an agency in a certain area. On the AWIN you could potentially hear ANYONE, ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.. LOL. As of yet they have NOT set the system up for regional specific use, and most likely never will. Now if you ever were to go to say SC, and monitor the Palmetto 800 system, youll find that most agencies only have usage of certain regions of the system with maybe an ROAMING TG for statewide use. The newly growing Palmetto 25 on the other hand is set up so that statewide usage is allowed, once it grows out. The AWIN is set up so that ANYONE can be ANYWHERE and talk to their own agency. TNWIN is also going to be set up this way, as is the LWIN, and MSWIN. I have monitored Jonesboro PD when a JPD unit was in Hot Springs picking up an 10-15. Have listened to Pine Bluff FD work a house fire when one of the PBFD chiefs was visiting relatives. The only county I have never heard either on AWIN or VHF so far is Yell, and that I find strange as they are close to me.

 

[bpckty1]

"ANY unit with a radio with that tg programmed in that roams near a strong enough signal from ANY of the AWIN sites will affiliate and you will hear that tg any time it is used until that unit moves out of signal range."

Which is why the units visiting Little Rock from other parts of the state are asked to turn off their radios, since their affiliations can tie up the LR freqs while they listen to their department's traffic from other parts of the state.

 

[aspclay]

Really, Weird because Jackson County OEM Should Be Troop B only! But I heard it on Troop C and D.. Strange....Well Thanks For The ID! I'll know next time!

I'll try to explain one possible answer....
If anyone with an AWIN radio in Troops D or C happenes to be monitoring Jackson County OEM, then anyone listening to a scanner in those areas will also hear the traffic.

Same if someone (ANYONE) with an awin radio in Troop-C switches over to Troop-G (SW ARK) then everyone with a scanner in Troop-C area will also hear Troop-G traffic, until that radio that is monitoring Troop-G switches to another frequency.

That's basically the way it works, Does that make sense???

It could have been a trooper, an awin tech, an ADEM official, another OEM agency, it could have been anyone listening...

 

[btritch]

So Let me get this right...That makes perfect sense and What you all are saying is this:

Basically anyone with an AWIN radio can monitor any frequency in the state that they have programmed and if they're out of area listening to theirs back where the usually are you will hear that, Example, Troop C will hear Troop I if someone is monitoring Troop I traffic...So What I need to do IS this..I need to program in Troop C frequencies and not only put the Statewide AWIN comms and Troop C Dispatch, I need to also Put Troop A-L Dispatch and all of the counties/oems in AWIN....Because it all boils down to this.....Anyone could be anywhere and you never know what you will hear from anywhere in the state...So I need to program Troop A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, and L Dispatch TG's along with Statewide AWIN Communications, and Any County I'm interested in hearing, Correct??

Also, A guy that is a trooper for Troop B Out of Newport, I know for fact he takes his radio anywhere he goes when he travels, Even to other states and listens as long as possible, So if he's in fayettville, Anyone in that area will hear Troop B traffic.. I think I got it now... BUT it can only be done that way on a radio that will communicate with the entire AWIN system which a scanner will not so it won't work to do that way.. Right?

So I will program all the counties and troops I might want to hear in under the Troop C frequencies...because you never know what you might hear at any time...

Am I on the right track here? If not, Someone wanna classify?

 

[rdale]

Basically yes. Most statewide systems don't allow ALL talkgroups to be carried on ALL towers, but that varies. In any case, there's no harm in doing so for your scanner.

 

[btritch]

I'll have to try that and See what I can scrape in...might try a wildcard some day during the week also.

 

[INDY72]

With the AWIN, LWIN, and the way the MSWIN is being set up, there are no regional zones set up.. As far as I know this is the same for ALL P-25 wide area TRS's. On the older systems they are set up for state agencies to have statewide access, and municipalities, and counties to have regional access, with a roaming tg for statewide use. The ability to be able to communicate anywhere you are with your agencies is a vital part of true statewide interoperability. Just as vital as having common mutual aid/interop tg's and conventional freqs as backups. Adding the ability to be able to communicate with other nearby states is even sweeter! The only regional zoneage for AWIN that I am aware of is how the ADEM, and local OEM radios are done. Each radio is set up with multiple zones in it. Each zone has the ADEM primary TG's, the regional ADEM TG's, the MAC's, and ASP District TG's... As well as the region's County Level SO/OEM AWIN TG's. For example- Garland OEM AWIN radios primary zone is the ADEM Central region. They are programmed with the ADEM 1, 2, and all 5 ADEM Central TG's, Garland County SO/OEM TG, ASP Troop K MED, Area K Events TG's, ASHD (State Health) TG's, etc... then also have the primary TG's for the surrounding areas in the Central Area. In other zones are TG's for surrounding counties that are in other zones.

Now- the best bet for scanner programming on the AWIN for State Level Agencies? Put in ALL the ASP Dispatches, and Tacs, and if you want to catch the rarely used but interesting ASP stuff... NARC's, CID's, and CACD's... All the AHP stuff.... All the State period! For local, put your County SO/OEM TG's... And the surrounding Counties SO/OEM TG's... I'd also add the DEA, and US Marshal TG's as they see some usage on a regular basis. Program all your local AWIN Sites in so you catch everything when mobile. Get Pro96Com in your PC and use it often to log traffic and be able to know whats affiliated and granted voice access the most often for your area! It is a awesome tool!

 

[rdale]

As far as I know this is the same for ALL P-25 wide area TRS's.

No. MPSCS is statewide P-25 TRS, but talkgroups can be limited by tower, area, or region basically. A Detroit firefighter can't listen in on Fireground1 while in Grand Rapids. He can hear his dispatch though.

 

[btritch]

I see it clearly Now.. I am reprogramming tonight! Where can Pro96Com be found and what's the cost?

Also, Anyone know where the Hi/Lo Thresholds should be set for Roaming On Feature, Or is it best to use the STAT, Scan all TG's on every pass?

 

[zzdiesel]

I entered all of the Troop's dispatches in mine last night just too see what I'd hear. I'm hearing a lot of Troop D traffic on the Troop C tower in Burdette.

I have noticed that I can't hear the Jonesboro & Lake City towers at all in the daytime, but they start coming in right after dark.

 

[btritch]

I entered all of the Troop's dispatches in mine last night just too see what I'd hear. I'm hearing a lot of Troop D traffic on the Troop C tower in Burdette.

I have noticed that I can't hear the Jonesboro & Lake City towers at all in the daytime, but they start coming in right after dark.

I've heard Troop D before from here, Heard B also last week.

 

[gray6077]

I'm hearing a lot of Troop D traffic on the Troop C tower in Burdette.

I have noticed that I can't hear the Jonesboro & Lake City towers at all in the daytime, but they start coming in right after dark.

I can hear some Troop C on D tower (Shell Lake).

I can get Jonesboro and Lake City most of the time but it is stronger after dark here in Marion.

 

[Magnetsteve]

I can hear some Troop C on D tower (Shell Lake).

I can get Jonesboro and Lake City most of the time but it is stronger after dark here in Marion.

I'm sure the reason for that is there is an AWIN user in your area or close enough to you on the nightshift, ASP maybe....

 

[INDY72]

Pro96Com is free.

Pro96Com - Control channel decoder for P25 Trunked Radio Systems

 

[btritch]

Pro96Com is free.

Pro96Com - Control channel decoder for P25 Trunked Radio Systems

Sorry I haven't gotten back sooner, had a fatal accident tonight here in town involving 5 family members, 1 being air lifted to memphis TN. so I'm just now getting around to getting back. I downloaded pro96 com but I can't get it to do anything with my PSR 500, How do I go about setting it up to work with my 500? Anything I click on says you must first connect to a tower.