K6GBW
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Cycle 25 should peak in about a year. Then we'll go on a long slow slide back down to sanity.
Cycle 25 should peak in about a year. Then we'll go on a long slow slide back down to sanity.
With clean power and a proper antenna, the only thing you can really do next is to get a better radio.
A roof mount will inevitably result in a broken antenna at best. Even if I drill the hole, if I snag a solid mount on something in the woods I imagine it could really F up the roof of the truck. I'd definitely have some serious explaining to do. Do they make break away mounts? Just thinking worst case scenario.
A pair of springs and 4' firestiks would leave half the antenna or more above the cab. Is there enough "play" in the tunable ones to make up for the spring? I'm sure there are things I'm not considering. Any thoughts on the hypothetical setup?
just me personally.... but I absolutely hate the firesticks... never seen one get more than a couple miles,I'm going to pick up a firestik today and some bonding strap if I can find it. I don't know of a radio shop anywhere around anymore.
it say's human or robot but that's the link to a walmart Tram 3500 that works pretty well for me.just me personally.... but I absolutely hate the firesticks... never seen one get more than a couple miles,
.... back in the 80's .... 90's I tried a lot of antennas and the firestick was the worst..... they are dirt cheap, so everyone buys them and has them.... doesn't mean they work.... and funny how some people that have them, will tell you how awesome they are???
.... I have a few friends in an off road club and they use CB's ... my friends always tell me of the guys showing up with a 2 or 3 foot firestick and they can just barely do a mile... a mile is all they need so it does work for them...... then they tell all the new people to get a firestick??? I guess if all you ever had a was a firestick and it talked to the guy a mile from you and that's all they needed ... I guess they would think it was great......
most new CB people seem to get the Uniden 510xl or the 505XL and I have never heard anyone getting good results with either that radio or a firestick.... I was in a few different forums and I saw someone buying the Uniden 510XL daily.... so they sell a ton of them??? must be the price???..
some guys say they have good luck with firestick antenna's, but I've yet to talk on the radio with anyone that has one.
I talk to a lot of truckers that have all kinds of tall whips... I've talked to quite a few people with the Wilson 1000..... the stainless steel 108" whip... procoms and presidents, and siro's and hustlers and Strykers.... but I have yet to talk to a Firestick... as I don't think they can reach me.... the LiL Wilson and the K-30 both get 3 to 4 miles and that's not terrible.... but if you're going to have a CB I'd like to get more than that.
sorry I can't suggest anything as I see your going down roads with not much height... my Tram 3500 is very whippy.... and bends easily if I'm going slow... .. it's whacked a few branches and bridges... no damage... ... but I'm mostly on regular roads.... if I slow down that whip will bend a lot and the magnet is pretty strong.. this is a picture of my 6 foot tall pick-up going into the 7 foot tall garage.
budget friendly????... I found out the hard way... this is a pretty expensive hobby.... better to spend the money once and get a good CB and a good antenna and be done... but I also understand company truck.
the guys here are super smart and super helpful... they helped me so very much, and I'll always be appreciative,,,,,, I'm sure they will help you too.
good luck.
It's inevitable really...consider getting your Ham Tech ticket and going to 2 meters, which would work way better and be smaller and easier to live with.
Most of my off roading is in places where sane people would NEVER take a pickup truck. Steep grades, big rocks, washed out places, and LOTS of tree limbs. So we're talking really low speed. It's a really nice truck, but when I get where I'm going it gets used like an oversized side-by-side. I have to have an antenna to survive in that.
I keep coming back to the situation where I pealed the mag mount off. I know this isn't an off-roading forum, but I think the story paints the picture. Headed down a 35-40% grade, loose gravel in my right track, riding a washed out wet seam with my left track. Nowhere else to go, and nothing but a low berm and a prayer separating me from the straight drop off to my left. Low lock, first gear, hill control ON. I saw that there was a small tree that had up rooted from the upper bank, fallen across the "road", and hung in the branches on the lower side. It was almost perfectly horizontal and I realized it was going to hit just above my windshield. I knew my mount didn't stand a change so I was going to stop and cut it out of the way. I was already at a crawl, with an occasional slip, but when I started to brake I just kept sliding. I slowly slid a full truck length and listened as that tree cleaned the top of my truck off. I crawled out the passenger side, fished my mag mount out of the mud behind my drivers side rear tire, and popped it on the back of the cab. It's a crappy antenna, but it survived. I know that was the perfect storm type situation, and hopefully it doesn't ever happen again. But I can't help but think that if it had been bolted to the top of my cab I would probably ripped her open.
Getting that antenna off the roof is a compromise; I know that. But I still want the best I can get even with the limitations.
It doesn't have anything to do with comms, but I know there's probably people wondering what the hell and/or why... If there's good timber left, it's usually because it was hard to get to and even harder to get out. When I'm reconning these places I'm there well in advance of the dozer man and clear roads. Often times I end up walking the last mile anyway. Then I start working a systematic grid across the landscape taking inventory. I drive as far as I can because sometimes I have to put in 5-6 miles on foot across 800 to 1200 feet of elevation change while packing food, water, and gear. Then my dead tired ass has to get back to the truck. It's tough work and I probably sound crazy, but I love it. For the correct perspective: I get paid well to off road and be alone in the woods...
@slowmover if anyone has any interest in this it may be you... London, KY is the center of my region. It's a quant little town and a decent stop on the I75. It also has hwy 80 running E/W through it. Several lumber mills, rock quarries, distribution centers, and industrial parks in that corridor. Plus it carries all the coal from the eastern part of the state to the tipples and rail heads. Lots of freight passing through this area; local and long haul both. Lots of CB antennas around too, especially the E/W folks. I work an area that's roughly a 80 mile radius north and south of London and 120 miles east and west of it. I spend a whole lot of time on those two highways and their assorted connections. Like I mentioned in the post above, I have a CB because of my job. I've only had a taste of it, and I'm probably over romanticizing it... but there's something about telling the coal truck to watch his speed down that grade because there's a bear waiting on him at the bottom of the hill... Or hearing that it's the other way around; that the bear is in the bushes behind him so I know to make a little less steam. Or warning the west bound log hauler that the mobile scales are on the ground at the end of the four lane, 'cause I know damn well that he can't make weight. Or letting the wide load know that there's an ******* coming around that's going to squeeze him at the top of the truck lane. I've always been the guy to roll my window down at the red light to tell granny she's got a flat tire or to let the hotshot know that he has a strap loose. Doing that at distance just tickles my feel goods. My office may be in the woods, but sometimes it's a long commute. All that windshield time just seems a little easier when you're connected to who's around you and know what's going on...
So again, limitations aside, I want a big mouth and bigger ears, especially up and down the road. I can already say that I want NRC, FM, and SSB. Antenna is a need now, radio later.
If you do.... please be sure to put a fuse close to the battery.... JUST FOR your radio power line.Thanks mmckenna!
I'm tied into the "accessory" fuse. So, basically every other electronic devise in my truck. I'll get that hard wired to the battery today.
The antenna issue is especially challenging. Logging trails and forest roads are inhospitable places for antennas. My mag mount was pealed off by a low limb within a couple days (where I subsequently ran over it). It's also a company truck, and drilling holes is highly discouraged. I've been reading all morning about ground plane and losses and I've gathered that the top of the cab is the best location. It is also a death sentence for a fiberglass antenna.